machine against machine who will win?
Gundam mobile suits vs. Transformers
"Tenjin said:"Depends on what seasons we are talking about cuz if we are talking lke TF Energon to Gundam 008 then it is TF curbstomp"yeah thats what i mean when i say other lvl, but their are times where gundam could overwealm with numbers."
Gundam Wing Endleses Waltz models could possibly take done G1 TF depending on who is fighting
Wing Ultimate said:
"gundam wing wins because they have much better weapons and better armor."
not really Wing Zero can only fire the buster rifle 3 times while Megatron can user is Cannon repeatedly. The buster rifle might be stronger but not as resilent. Gundanium isn't that mush harder than Cybertronian armor probably the same if you ask me.
gundams are much quicker then transformers and taller. better weaponry.
GUNDAMS are better and cooler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"gundams are much quicker then transformers and taller. better weaponry.what are you talking about? They are not faster Blur would run circles around the fastest gundam (Tallgeese) and taller means little of anything. and they're weapon systems maybe be cooler but not better.
GUNDAMS are better and cooler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
If it's Optomus Prime vs Tenjin said:
"Matches said:Just so you know, the buster rifle is a very powerful weapon that could take out a huge proportional level of power. There is a reason why it can only be used 3 times. Also, the Gundanium is the hardest metal in the world, comparable to adamantium but lower, but lighter and because it doesn't break. At all. The only reason it was destroyed because it was used special explosives. Gundams also have speed and agility that surpass the transformers, along with light sabers that could be comparable to the light sabers used by star wars.....basically could cut through anything."Tenjin said:"Depends on what seasons we are talking about cuz if we are talking lke TF Energon to Gundam 008 then it is TF curbstomp"yeah thats what i mean when i say other lvl, but their are times where gundam could overwealm with numbers."Gundam Wing Endleses Waltz models could possibly take done G1 TF depending on who is fighting
Wing Ultimate said:
"gundam wing wins because they have much better weapons and better armor.""
not really Wing Zero can only fire the buster rifle 3 times while Megatron can user is Cannon repeatedly. The buster rifle might be stronger but not as resilent. Gundanium isn't that mush harder than Cybertronian armor probably the same if you ask me.
"If it's Optomus Prime vs Tenjin said:"Matches said:Just so you know, the buster rifle is a very powerful weapon that could take out a huge proportional level of power. There is a reason why it can only be used 3 times. Also, the Gundanium is the hardest metal in the world, comparable to adamantium but lower, but lighter and because it doesn't break. At all. The only reason it was destroyed because it was used special explosives. Gundams also have speed and agility that surpass the transformers, along with light sabers that could be comparable to the light sabers used by star wars.....basically could cut through anything. ""Tenjin said:"Depends on what seasons we are talking about cuz if we are talking lke TF Energon to Gundam 008 then it is TF curbstomp"yeah thats what i mean when i say other lvl, but their are times where gundam could overwealm with numbers."Gundam Wing Endleses Waltz models could possibly take done G1 TF depending on who is fighting
Wing Ultimate said:
"gundam wing wins because they have much better weapons and better armor.""
not really Wing Zero can only fire the buster rifle 3 times while Megatron can user is Cannon repeatedly. The buster rifle might be stronger but not as resilent. Gundanium isn't that mush harder than Cybertronian armor probably the same if you ask me.
Gundanium is the strongest metal in the Gundam universe while Cybertronian armor is hard as welll (Gundanium is not near adamantium cuz laser fire can penertrate it so more along the lines of titanium btw) certian transformers excel in speed so you are saying the wing zero is compareable to Blur's or Skywarp's speed? The lightsabers are also in use in the transformers universe.
And this is a curbstomp cuz the thread creator never said what transformers were fighting so i assume it means ALL the transformers.
"Agreed. If it's the seed, it's a slaughter. "
Gundam Seed has nothing on Gundam Wing.
yea if freedom and wing zero fires all their cannons there will be only bolts left of those transformers.
and no they aren't slower then normal robots. example: the Zero system will make the pilot go to his limits and increases his reaction time.
but come on realize that transformers stand no change!
"yea if freedom and wing zero fires all their cannons there will be only bolts left of those transformers..................what?! LMAO XDDDDD
and no they aren't slower then normal robots. example: the Zero system will make the pilot go to his limits and increases his reaction time.
but come on realize that transformers stand no change!"
"oldmagic said:Agreed. The only thing you have wrong is that you are comparing the Gundanium to titanium. They already have those types of metal. That earth is based on real earth. They added Gundanium as a special kind of metal that is the hardest yet the most lightest metal around. It is the strongest. But, yes, i think there speed and agility is much higher than the transformers, especially the agility and reflexes. Also, the only reason the gundams could be controlled by the special pilots is because they are special. You see, when Heero uses Wing Zero, all the information transfers directly to his brain through signals. So, if there is a blip, it is sent to him where the location is, and how far it is etc etc. So, just imagine it is a war. there are thousands of mobile suites out there fighting a battle and thousands of tiny little information is being sent to Heero's brain. And Heero has to pick each and everyone out and figure out who the enemy is and who is friendly. He doesn't make mistakes, which is the reason why there are no friendly fire. This is an amazing feat in and of it self."If it's Optomus Prime vs Tenjin said:"Matches said:Just so you know, the buster rifle is a very powerful weapon that could take out a huge proportional level of power. There is a reason why it can only be used 3 times. Also, the Gundanium is the hardest metal in the world, comparable to adamantium but lower, but lighter and because it doesn't break. At all. The only reason it was destroyed because it was used special explosives. Gundams also have speed and agility that surpass the transformers, along with light sabers that could be comparable to the light sabers used by star wars.....basically could cut through anything. ""Tenjin said:"Depends on what seasons we are talking about cuz if we are talking lke TF Energon to Gundam 008 then it is TF curbstomp"yeah thats what i mean when i say other lvl, but their are times where gundam could overwealm with numbers."Gundam Wing Endleses Waltz models could possibly take done G1 TF depending on who is fighting
Wing Ultimate said:
"gundam wing wins because they have much better weapons and better armor.""
not really Wing Zero can only fire the buster rifle 3 times while Megatron can user is Cannon repeatedly. The buster rifle might be stronger but not as resilent. Gundanium isn't that mush harder than Cybertronian armor probably the same if you ask me.
Gundanium is the strongest metal in the Gundam universe while Cybertronian armor is hard as welll (Gundanium is not near adamantium cuz laser fire can penertrate it so more along the lines of titanium btw) certian transformers excel in speed so you are saying the wing zero is compareable to Blur's or Skywarp's speed? The lightsabers are also in use in the transformers universe.
And this is a curbstomp cuz the thread creator never said what transformers were fighting so i assume it means ALL the transformers."
O.K since there is a lack of information how about we use the Endless Waltz Wing Zero, Deathscythe (My Fav) Sandrock, Altron and Heavyarms with Gundam Epyon and Tallgeese l vs. G1 Decepticons excluding Scorponok and Trypticon and there can be no combiners like Devastator and Menasor but the robots making them up can still fight.
Who wins?
"The only Gundams that matter are from Gundam Wing. They would make this a good battle."Um, not really.
Turn-A Gundam would destroy all Transformer's with the Moonlight Butterfly. Watch at 4:05...
And thats around 20% capacity.
Transformer's can win this if they get Unicron and Primus. I do not believe they're canon though, and even if they are canon retcons.. the creator of their story retconned them out.
"Vance Astro said:"Vance Astro said:basically. ""1 Gundam destroys the entire Autobot and Decepticon population""
"Static Shock said:now thats power."The only Gundams that matter are from Gundam Wing. They would make this a good battle."Um, not really.
Turn-A Gundam would destroy all Transformer's with the Moonlight Butterfly. Watch at 4:05...
And thats around 20% capacity.
Transformer's can win this if they get Unicron and Primus. I do not believe they're canon though, and even if they are canon retcons.. the creator of their story retconned them out."
ok, deatscyte, sandrock, epyon and altron will go in attack and slice trough them like butter (with stealth mode of deatscyte they can't even see him). if that wont work then wingzero, heavyarms and talgeese 3 ( endless waltz version) fire their canons. total destruction!
Haha you guys are so funny. Well i did my research and optimus prime is only 29 feet tall, but a regular gundam is 59 feet tall so if you think about it a transformer would have a very hard time fighting a gundam. Also when gundam pilots fight they don't mind killing people, on the other hand transformers are little pussies! lol jk. Oh yeah and gundanium alloy is much stronger then that crap transformers have. I grew up watching gundam wing so its gundam wing for me all the way!
"gundams are much quicker then transformers and taller. better weaponry.Gundams are not bigger than TF, on average they are about the same size. Although, TF does have a few large ones than Gundams (i.e. Metroplex, any of the combiners, Omega Supream).
GUNDAMS are better and cooler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
"Your on drugs if you believe that."
Watch the video.
Kimikirai said:
"Static Shock said:"The only Gundams that matter are from Gundam Wing. They would make this a good battle."Um, not really.
Turn-A Gundam would destroy all Transformer's with the Moonlight Butterfly. Watch at 4:05...
And thats around 20% capacity.
Transformer's can win this if they get Unicron and Primus. I do not believe they're canon though, and even if they are canon retcons.. the creator of their story retconned them out."
The battle is closer to call than you think. Transformers aren't completely out-numbered. Consider this:
If you consider G1 alone (which included parts of TF: RID and the Unicron Trilogy), characters with the likes of PowerMaster Optimus Prime, Gigatron, and Black Zarak were considerable powerhouses. Other links of relevance:
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/shining-gundam-vs-optimus-prime-1467899/
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/just-how-powerful-is-optimus-prime-742225/
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/gundam-vs-transformers-524768/
http://tesla-koi.deviantart.com/art/GUNDAM-vs-TRANSFORMERS-pg-08-255954868
For those of you who claim Transformer durability is not superior to Gundam durability, here are scans of Megatron getting hit with an orbital drop stronger than a nuke and not sustaining any visible damage



While Gundam Barbatos got wrecked after Dainselfs hit him from space at 27:18. Meaning Megatron is far more durable than Barbatos and Mikazuki would get murked in a fight with a Transformers like Megatron. Even the impact of Megatron punching Barbatos in front of the cockpit would kill the pilot.
For those of you who believe anti beam coating works against Transformers, first of all, why would it work when Transformers don't use beam type weapons to begin with? Not to mention there are many different types of Transformers weapons that aren't lasers. Even if there was coating in Gundam mulitverse deflects any energy, the mini con or prime Star Saber is a hard counter to anti beam coating. Coating works by dispersing beam energy off itself. It does not repel or negate energy. Star Sabre is a thin physical blade charged with energy. So how can the energy be dispersed? Star Sabers can physical cut through the coating chemical and burn the inside of the suit. I doubt beam coating can even resist the sword waves created by Prime Star Saber. Optimus can cut a big part of a mountain with the Star Saber.
This video clearly says at 14:00 beam sabers in seed don't generate a physical blade and can't block other energy swords. Meaning, no suit in Seed has a defense against Star Sabers. Not even Strike Freedom
Wacky has also stated Gundam armor cannot tank nukes at 18:00 when the Freedoms nuclear reactor blew up and destroyed the Freedom
Gundam 00 quanta stomps.
@ninjawarrior268: Also, the dude can teleport trough galaxies.
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