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#1  Edited By swordbrothers

No bfr, not weapons,

This takes place in a planet Hulk battle arena:

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I think The Thing take this by a small majority 6/10. Groot is tough but I don't think he could beat The Thing...

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Why is Groot talking like that? Doesn't he only say "I am Groot!"?

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Why is Groot talking like that? Doesn't he only say "I am Groot!"?

He was much more vocal in his early appearances, even up to his appearance in the short lived Howling Commandos series (He held a full conversation with Gorilla Man Kenneth Hale, who was trying to recruit Groot into SHIELD's special monster task force.) If I'm not mistaken, the "I am Groot." repetition only came about when he was introduced into the Guardians of the Galaxy.

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IIRC, there is no wood or plant life in the arena that would appreciably enable Groot to heal himself or increase his strength to levels the Thing couldn't match. Though Groot has the size advantage and ability to regrow himself from a twig, Ben has the better base damage resistance. I'll go with Ben, 6/10.

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I'm going with Groot---He can just reform until he takes down thing. Too durable.

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Again ben stomps....

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#10  Edited By Frisky4

Groot. They seem to have similar strength. They both can deal Hulk in pure strength. Groot can also regenerate, and seems bigger or at least taller then Ben. Groot also has a genius level intellect, though he hardly ever uses it.

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#11  Edited By w0nd

I thought if enough of him gets destroyed he has to grow himself back and sometimes that is a lengthy process. How durable is he? could thing not rip him to pieces?

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#13  Edited By tparks

@w0nd: @frisky4: @xiix: @angrir:

There really isn't anything Thing can do to Groot guys. Groot is just simply in another league. I'm not putting Ben down, but Groot is significantly stronger, more durable, and has an amazing healing factor. Not to mention his dendrokinesis, which really isn't even necessary here. This isn't really fair.

Just look at the difference between their fights with the Monster of Badoon:

Thing vs Monster of Badoon

Thing hits Monster of Badoon with his strongest punch.

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Monster of Badoon is not even phased. Ben even comments that it was his hardest punch and it did nothing to him. Then Monster of Badoon retaliates:

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A one hit knock out against Thing.

After this, the next time we see Monster of Badoon, he gets a massive upgrade to the point that he fights Silver Surfer:

Silver Surfer vs Monster of Badoon

The Monster of Badoon gets a serious upgrade in size and speed. He eventually gets beat by the Silver Surfer, but Surfer comments how he is only just faster then MoB to narrowly avoid being crushed by him by a microsecond.

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After this, Surfer hits him with a cosmic blast that MoB survives. He loses the fight, but the fact that he didn't die shows some nice durability.

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The next time we see the Monster of Badoon, he's even bigger and it's against Groot.

Groot vs Monster of Badoon

As you can see, Monster of Badoon is massive in this fight:

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Groot immediately squares off with him, and man-handles him the entire fight. Not only does Groot prove to be much stronger, but he's able to manhandle a character that was only a microsecond slower then Surfer.

Groot is clearly manhandling MoB. It's no contest.

Groot finishes up with a massive coup de grace.

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Groot not only wins, but he hits MoB so hard that it tears his head off. Even Major Victory comments on Groot having "a beautiful right hook". Lol

Anyways, just look at the difference in their strength. Thing can't even hurt MoB with his strongest punch. Groot hits an upgraded MoB so hard that it rips his head off.

I rest my case.

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Are you kidding me this was 616 thing.......

ultimate thing would absolutely rape groot, this is a guy that survived a blast from a celestial

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@angrir said:

Are you kidding me this was 616 thing.......

ultimate thing would absolutely rape groot, this is a guy that survived a blast from a celestial

@tparks:

Don't know about Ultimate Thing, I assumed we were talking 616 Thing.

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@angrir: and? Not every fight is with ultimate thing

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#17  Edited By w0nd

@chaos911 said:

@angrir: and? Not every fight is with ultimate thing

LOL go look at his posts. he hates when thing loses. He got mad at an actual scan of iceman freezing thing solid and tried to argue it. I wouldn't get into an argument with him it will go on for hours.

check out his profile
http://www.comicvine.com/profile/angrir/

it ONLY has him posting about thing for the first page if not all lol.... any time 616 loses a battle he brings up ultimate.

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#18  Edited By angrir

@w0nd:

No yu just hate to lose thats all............... sorry

plus ultimate is the best form soooooo, why not use.......

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@w0nd: yeah I think I saw him around sometimes and when I saw his post on here saying "again Ben stomps..." it made me chuckle

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@angrir: cause its the rules that when not specified in the op to use the standard mainstream version. And you said so yourself that the ultimate version is stronger than the original

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@angrir: how? If it wasn't fair a lot of people would complain about it

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#24  Edited By New_World_Order

Groot.

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#25  Edited By w0nd

@angrir said:

@w0nd:

No yu just hate to lose thats all............... sorry

plus ultimate is the best form soooooo, why not use.......

how do i hate to lose. you said iceman cant freeze the thing ...someone pastes this pic and you still proceed to argue with the picture

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Someone posts a scan of Groot being stronger than 616 thing...so you bring up ultimate. Even though the Hulk battle arena doesn't exist in the ultimate universe so it's most likely the 616 version.

you said Thing can leap as high as the hulk, I told you he couldn't and when I am done scanning the issue I will upload a picture of him admitting he can't jump that high, and you can argue with that scan too. Then you can bring up how you meant 616 version.

If I hate losing why are you always the one who brings up ultimate thing when someone mentions 616.



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hahahaha! this^^

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@w0nd: How come he said he cant leap as high as hulk but in the scan i posted he clearly did..

Explain

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but seriously, groot by a small majority

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@angrir: may I see this scan please

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Groot should win handily if you ask me.

Better all around feats.

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#32  Edited By tparks

@w0nd:

you said Thing can leap as high as the hulk, I told you he couldn't and when I am done scanning the issue I will upload a picture of him admitting he can't jump that high, and you can argue with that scan too. Then you can bring up how you meant 616 version.

I don't really care either way on this debate. I'm not weighing in on this really, I'm just providing the scan for you because I don't want to get pulled into a Hulk vs Thing debate. :)

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And then Hulk jumping nearly a 1000 miles.

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Like I said, I'm just giving you the scans so you don't have to look them up, but you guys can discuss however you'd like.

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@angrir: That is ultimate thing. 616 thing is the default thing used in battles.

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@angrir: where's hulk? And is that 616 or 1610 (I think that's the ultimate designation)?

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Groot wins.

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well he asked and i answered sooooo.....

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@chaos911 said:

@angrir: where's hulk? And is that 616 or 1610 (I think that's the ultimate designation)?

Its ultimate thing.

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@jashro44:

Thought that was already clarified.....

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@angrir:

Nobody said Thing can't jump; they said that he cannot jump as high as Hulk. That scan does not have anything to do with the Hulk - and frankly, neither does this thread, since Hulk is not in the fight.

Also, that is Ultimate Thing, which has no bearing on this debate. Unless stated otherwise, it is always mainstream versions of the characters; therefore, it is 616 Thing.

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@jashro44: thank you ultimate thing got some power

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@angrir: you said the scan clearly showed him jumping as high as hulk. Where's hulk?

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@chaos911: No problem and agreed. Ultimate thing is very strong. Much stronger than 616 thing from what I've seen.

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#44  Edited By w0nd

@angrir said:

@w0nd: How come he said he cant leap as high as hulk but in the scan i posted he clearly did..

Explain

Are you seriously posting a picture of ultimate thing again? You basically proved my point. any time someone says anythign about 616 thing in you shoe horn in ultimate. yes we get ultimate thing is unstoppable.

that's also not as high as hulk by the way, hulk jumps from city to city.

jumping "High" is not the same as jumping the same height as the hulk lol...

also that scan doesn't really show how high he jumped....he got smacked before he made it to the building, and judging from where he went through the building that puts him just above half....so good now we are comparing half a building to city wide jumps. that's fair I guess.

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@w0nd:

Since people wanna destroy thing whenever a battle shows up i put ultimate form of him because, frankly thats where all his powers really come out...

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@angrir: not really destroy him a lot of people here love the thing based on the fact that even though he might not be as string as hulk or Thor he. Never. Backs. Down.

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@jashro44: I read online that he once floored zombie hulk in one punch

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#48  Edited By w0nd

@angrir said:

@w0nd:

Since people wanna destroy thing whenever a battle shows up i put ultimate form of him because, frankly thats where all his powers really come out...

@w0nd:

No yu just hate to lose thats all............... sorry

So because you hate to lose you pick a version of him that wasn't included in the battle? that doesn't make sense. For every battle on the battle threat people will just pick god mode characters from alternate universes. In that spider-man vs thing thread why not just pick the captain universe spider-man then..."that's where his power really came out" or the phoenix force spider-man.

Someone posted a scan of groot displaying strength 616 thing could not. that answered pretty much the question. he can regenerate, he is apparently faster, and he is not apparently stronger too....

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#49  Edited By chaos911

@w0nd: I remember the Phoenix force costume from when I played my uncle's ps1 spiderman games

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#50  Edited By angrir

@chaos911:

people always try to put thing down by posting him battling daredevil type heroes and some people even vote for them over looking everything else, so i have to support him whenever i can thats just it, plus seriously dude heart doesnt really get you anywhere anymore at all

actually it never got the thing anything except getting beat up by spiderman..... seriously spiderman..............