Grizzly Bear Vs Gorilla
" And a grizzly bear can kill a one ton moose without much trouble, and it has claws. The gorilla looses. "bear lose all the time
The Gorilla takes this. Why? We're talking a highly intelligent animal with more mobility than the Grizzly. Not to say a Grizzly is stupid, but Gorillas have shown very capable of problem solving and the like. If they were to face off in a biting contest, or some strength grapple, I can see the Grizzly winning, but the Gorilla has more tools to win with. Leaping, a wider range of arm movement, etc. Two animals with similar size and strength, the Gorilla is coming out on top due to a wider range of tactics.
1500lb Grizzly against a 500lb Silverback? No contest. Grizzly 10/10. "
The OP specified that both animals were 500 lbs, which is why people are using a 500 lb grizzly. Everyone already knows bears get much larger than that, and the bigger they get, the more obviously one-sided the fight becomes, which is exactly why they were made the same size for this thread.
Also, I was under the impression that the Grizzly was a specific subspecies of Brown Bear, not the other way around.
The Bear can crush the Gorillas skull with a smack from it's paw, and the Bear has teeth and claws
" SA Pre-Retcon Post Crisis GA Pre- Annihilation Gorilla stomps. "Did it say in the OP that we're using the strongest incarnations? I think not. Dude we're using canon here. So it's post-retcon post-crisis post-annihilation post-zero hour post-infinite crisis modern age 616 Gorilla. No SA Gorilla, no AoA Gorilla, No KC Gorilla, no nuthin! Peace!
I'm not sure a Gorilla's intelligence will factor into this fight.
A fight between these two will basically be them grappling with each other. A Gorilla will not see a Bear and carry out some tactical analysis and start some "Gorilla MMA" or "Gorilla Judo" as some here have suggested. I don't think Gorillas know how to throw punches or if it knows how to crush the skull of the bear. If the Bear attacks, the Gorilla will attack back and try and fight it anyway it can. I really don't know much about Gorilla fighting because they are not natural predators but i do know that the Grizzly knows how to kill because it was built to do it.
I will give this to the Grizzly because of its claws and it's fangs.
" @Mayday_ said:
The OP specified that both animals were 500 lbs, which is why people are using a 500 lb grizzly. Everyone already knows bears get much larger than that, and the bigger they get, the more obviously one-sided the fight becomes, which is exactly why they were made the same size for this thread. Also, I was under the impression that the Grizzly was a specific subspecies of Brown Bear, not the other way around. "1500lb Grizzly against a 500lb Silverback? No contest. Grizzly 10/10. "
I'm aware of this, but I'm addressing the fact that he thinks a 500lb Silverback can deal with a 1000-1500lb Grizzly. It's not happening unless the Silverback's intelligence allows it to build a .50 caliber gattling gun. A 500lb Grizzly against a 500lb Silverback still swings in favor of the bear, considering a gorilla can't do anything but try to club the bear to death, which isn't going to happen. Actually, the example I made about the Grizzly tossing around a 700 lb dumpster effortlessly, like it was a beachball, was the smaller 500 lb Grizzly.
And you are correct in that Grizzlies started as a subspecies of Brown Bear located in North America (ursus arctos horribilis), but the term "Grizzly" has lately been broadened to mean the entire "ursus arctos" family of bears. The Kodiak Bear (Alaskan Grizzly), Siberian Grizzly, and Kamchatka Grizzly are the largest species that can weigh anywhere from 1200 to 1600 lbs.
@Skies327
said:" The Gorilla takes this. Why? We're talking a highly intelligent animal with more mobility than the Grizzly. Not to say a Grizzly is stupid, but Gorillas have shown very capable of problem solving and the like. If they were to face off in a biting contest, or some strength grapple, I can see the Grizzly winning, but the Gorilla has more tools to win with. Leaping, a wider range of arm movement, etc. Two animals with similar size and strength, the Gorilla is coming out on top due to a wider range of tactics. "
Gorillas are intelligent but this is against a creature that is not its natural enemy. It has no instinctive "tactics" to deal with such an vicious animal. A gorilla's intelligence does not allow it to sit and think of a tactical strategy to take out a creature it knows nothing about. They're not THAT intelligent. Besides, my video clearly shows that even the smallest species of bear can hang with a stronger, faster opponent that actually has matching claws, a jaw that's also made for killing, and is actually a predatory animal. Now just think of what a bear can do against a smaller opponent that doesn't have the same weapons. It's a complete stomp in favor of the bear.
500 pounds is a Black Bear, not a Grizzly Bear.
The Grizzly still has huge claws that could cleave the Gorilla open and it has a speed advantage.
So a creature as strong as the Gorrila, and armed with knives for hands and fangs.... Bear wins. Really, it's common sense.
@cooldes: A gorilla cannot spin a bear's beat around. That's ridiculous.
@etherprobe: i think it could, but even so it was hyperbole
@spiderpigbart: Ok, Let me break this down for you. Since you are very misinformed.
Lets start by size. The gorilla is 400 lbs. The bear is 650 lbs. Instant advantage for the bear.
The bear stands 6.5 ft tall. The gorilla is 5'5 max. This is what the fight would look like
The gorillas hand isn't meant to swipe the necks off a ton moose. Plus they don't have claws
Look at the difference between the two.
Gorillas are just big strong humans. They aren't durable at all. Leopards are known to efficiently hunt and kill gorillas on a daily basis. Bears kill tigers. Surely you don't think tigers are leopards are in the same class do you?
Gorilla's only advantage is intelligence and (possibly) fighting skill. The Bear is just too physically strong and ferocious for the ape.
@karanrasquinha: Leopards don't attack full grown Silverbacks. They go for young gorilla's.
I think the Gorilla is physically stronger than a Grizzly.
@takenstew22: Actually, the Bear probably has superior fighting "skill" as it more frequently hunts other animals and would have more experiance.
@theserbianempire: Good point.
@tethadam: Well, I would imagine both would be relatively equal in overall strength, I don't have studies on how robust bear bones are in comparison to gorilla bones, but I will say this.
The Bear would likely have superior horizontal spine flexebility, which is important in grappling, the Bear would have the tougher skin due to its fur and it possesing more loose and flexible skin. The Bear would also possess the advantage in biting, since its skull and dentation are superior to the Gorilla.
Overall, this match is terribly onesided, leopards have killed gorillas in the past.
@theserbianempire: Thank you.
If this was a Black Bear would it be a more even fight?
I think the bear still wins because the gorilla's skin isn't built for fighting bears and he will lose to blood loss every time.
@reap_ii: Ok.
Bear Everytime I don't know why this isn't locked already please lol. Leapords kill gorrillas, Grizzlies can kill any big cats. Gorilla skin isn't nearly as durable or durable enough for those huge grizzly claws
@smoothsanta: Heres a source. Established predators of the western lowland gorilla are leopards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_attack
Lets look at this from another angle. Bears have been documented to kill tigers. Please don't tell me that you think a gorilla can beat a tiger..
@karanrasquinha: There's a page called gorillas-worlds which covers their predators, and talks about Leopards being known to kill male lowland gorilla's, but will avoid a Silverback gorilla due to them being much stronger.
Yes I've heard off bears killing tigers, but I've also heard bears are part of a tigers diet.
@jaylinfreeman: Why in lord's name did you bump such a stupid thread?
Lol the bear lolstomps the gorilla hasn't claws, the Bear is sooooo strong for the gorilla hahaha jaguar can beat gorilla
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@hulk_like_fire: No idea...the came up when I was replying to you.
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