Gremmy Thoumeaux vs Akatsuki

Round 1 : In character

Round 2 : Obito becomes Juubito and Gremmy is a genius

Win by death

No preparation, no knowledge, and no restrictions

Location: Kaguya's desert dimension

Round 1, gremmy takes out most of akatsuki but gets taken out by either obito or itachi.

Round 2, gremmy wipes them out if he's smart enough not to play with them and just immediately turn them to dust.

Gremmy battles are tricky, realistically he gets caught in some hax in Round 1, most likely genjutsu.

If he isn't playing around he should slaughter Round 2, he can just "imagine" them all as wet pieces of bacon or something.

Lol.

Obito flickstomps.

Nagato solostomps.

Juubito >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zaraki > Nagato >>> Gremmy.

Juubito? You seriously? Juubito is much, much more powerful than Zaraki who easily defeated Gremmy.

Mismatch and SPITE.

@earendill: Can you prove that Juubito can defeat a genius Gremmy?

@earendill: Juubito hasn't shown any resistance against reality warping, which a genius gremmy would undoubtedly spam and use in such a way to disable or outright wipe juubito out from existence.

Can you show me Gremmy's superior feats than Obito?

@earendill: Did you wanna say that a Bijuu Dama can destroy Bleach verse? You need to realize that a genius Gremmy it's a nigh-omnipotent character for Narutoverse. What stops him to imagine Juubito dead or erased out of the existence due to his reality warping?

Lol.

@earendill: I see that you are another one of those "big attacks = auto win" kind of guys. Bleach is mostly centered around hax and high attack potency, not on large scale attacks. That bijuu dama would work on most bleach characters, but not gremmy who can turn said attack into a giant inflatable ball.

I guess Genius Gremmy means fanwank logic Gremmy who can suddenly do things he was never shown to be able to accomplish?

No akatsuki ever harms Gremmy except of Juubito, who stomps.

Gremmy shows that his power is reality warping

Viner says gremmy can't do a thing that involves reality warping because he didn't do it in one fight whilst jobbing

Genius Gremmy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yhwach >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juubito >>Stupid Gremmy >>>>>>>>>> Akatsuki

Gremmy curbstomps first round and round 2 i don't even write

gremmy wins both rounds.

R1: Gremmy stomps

R2: Same as round 1 and he doesn’t have to be a genius. He’s faster and has too much hax.

R1: Either he wins or gets caught by some Hax.

R2: Juubito Solos

It's not just a big attack. Obito is much more powerful, much faster. Gudoudama erased Gremmy as he has already touched it.

First of all, Genjutsu is enough to beat Gremmy before the match starts.

@earendill: Juubito doesn't have access to genjutsu. Round 1 I already said itachi or obito could take him out. But a genius version of gremmy won't hesitate to turn juubito into a defenseless child and the truth seeking balls into delicious tapioca pearls.

y'all have to realize that a genius with reality warping won't hesitate to use it to its full extent.

I'm sorry, but what you're doing here is just fanfiction.

@earendill: It's called common sense and logical reasoning. Gremmy has reality warping powers, and has shown the ability to turn bones into brittle cookies. Juubito is not immune to that.

Rinnegan doesn't have genjutsu capabilities. Madara had to switch back from his rinnegan to his sharingan to use genjutsu on the raikage.

It was very CLEARLY shown that gremmy lost because of his unstable mental condition at the time. If you remove that, he could have very easily wiped out everyone there.

In fact, I don't even know why I'm trying to argue since on this site, feats are godly and statements and implications are thrown under the rug. So okay, I concede juubito wins with continental blasts and DNA swords.

R1: gremmy slaughters, he can just create a bunch of fodder SR with Hax abilities to kill everyone in akatsuki and does not even have to be present in the action.

R2: Gremmy stomps, nothing stopping him from creating a bunch of haxy abilities and haxing obito to oblivion, Truth seeking ball can be neg via Space attacks which Gremmy can easily create or hax abilities like X axis or other crap that can be create via Genius gremmy.

R1 can go either way , but R2 is an utterlygodstomp in gremmy favour. Gremmy with enought high IQ to call him a genius > Naruto verse.

Also Gremmy is the second strongest Sterrn Ritter after Ywach. And most of the sterrn ritters woud bodie the entire akatsuki at once , juubito or not , that doesnt matter.

Kisame drown that fool

@megaflare: Are you trolling? Kisame gets turned into a pickle

@astrologist: I think you meant he gets turned into a sponge who lives in a pineapple under the sea.

R1: If we are talking about the mindset Gremmy had in his fight with Kenpachi, he honestly loses to Itachi, who makes him imagine himself dead.

R2: Either Juubito blitzes and erases Gremmy before he can process a thought, or Gremmy slaughters the group.

This

How does Genjutsu affect a brain in a jar?

Yep. Gremmy had clear limits on his power, which is why he had to make clones.

Gremmy isn't even close to nigh omnipotent. He had clear limits and lost because of them.

Gerard at full power is stronger, and Lille is more dangerous, though arguably not as "strong". So Gremmy would either be the third or fourth strongest.

If round two is Gremmy morals off and out of character he solos the verse

He just thinks everybody dead which he's done before.

Gremmy stomps round one

Juubito wins round two. Gremmy is country lv at best hes not strong enough to beat him. Juubito could run through all his attacks and end Gremmy with wood style or a rinnegan technique.

Gremmy thinks and wins

@faradaysloth: like he did to kenpachi right?

Lol

OT: R1 can go either way but numbers and hax might take him down

R2: juubito solos

Gremmy still thinks and wins.

@son_of_mori-jin: Plot

Gremmy has killed people with a thought before so it can be done, the only way you can argue he doesn't is if you have some reality warping resistances for the Akatsuki.

@alextheboss: Canon novels says Gremmy is the second strongest Sterrn Ritter after Ywach. He still destroy everyonr if he get a little IQ.

Don't know about round 1, But i'm damnsure that a genius gremmy>>HST.

If he uses his power correctly.

Honestly though, 99% of people agree Edo Madara would body the Akatsuki, yet they're actually arguing Gremmy (Someone who would body Edo Madara) can't.

I know that's A-B-C logic, but there comes a point where that's irrelevant.

@mrviking: What is the exact statement? In the manga he also claimed to be the strongest, but then later on Gerard claimed the same thing. Except Gerard beat Kenpachi without his eyepatch and with bankai, Byakuya, and adult Hitsugaya, while Gremmy lost to Kenpachi with his eyepatch. I'll agree Gremmy has the strongest base power, but after all of his miracle power ups, Gerard surpassed him.

@alextheboss: In one of the novels , when a character mention the sterrn ritters , they say that gremmy is the second strongest after Ywach. Also gremmy loose because of his low IQ , that wasnt enought for him to consider to create a more durable body for himself , to be able to hold the power he imagined for himself.

What was kubo on making gremmy lol

@sup3rn0va: yet he needed a clone to summon a metoer? Gremmy has clear defined limits it's dozens of reality warpers.gremmy is towards the bottom. Also "genius gremmy" is a fanfic and is a product of what people wanted him to be like

Gremmy thinks and removes the universe because his imagination is limitless and can do anything, he was only limited by his intelligence. Removes the concept of time as well I guess, removes Reiatsu, removes Yhwach, removes the Almighty. removes anything.

He thinks and wins.

xd

Show me it being stated that the clone was required to summon the meteor

Nice reality warping resistances you posted, as I said Gremmy still thinks them dead.