Green Goblin (No Way Home) vs Wonder Woman (Justice League)

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  • Hand to hand fight
  • No gear or other abilities
  • Fight in the same apartment Goblin fights Peter

Who wins?

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Lol Goblin wrecks so fucking hard. His physicals are on another level, he no-sells her punches and then throws her through a building.

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#3  Edited By death4bunnies  Moderator  Online
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If you can’t beat this with Diana’s unarmed striking, then don’t tag me.

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Lol Goblin wrecks so fucking hard. His physicals are on another level, he no-sells her punches and then throws her through a building.

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@jormungandr-jay: Cool gif. Fodder-Woman still gets shat on.

Pure physicals isnt everything though. She clearly outskills the fuck out of him 100 to 1.

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@jormungandr-jay: Have you seen the movie? His skills are actually cracked, even in SM1 he showed some skill but NWH takes it next level. She also needs sufficient physicals to contend, but really doesn’t.

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This is actually a good fight but I'd give it to Wonder Woman

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WTF

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What is comic vine

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By feats it's Norman, he blitz with his superior speed and put her down with his superior strength.

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Is this sarcasm? Wonder Woman literally kills him. She’s literally taken hits from Superman.

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Is this sarcasm? Wonder Woman literally kills him. She’s literally taken hits from Superman.

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#13  Edited By death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

@erentheghoul:

Spider-Man’s taken hits from Thanos.. Diana took a headbutt from Superman not a punch, and it’s a outlier… like Batman also took a hit from Superman.

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If it’s such a joke then you would have no problem beating this feat with a unarmed Diana feat… right?

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DC fans of course can't show a single striking feat to suggest she can hurt Norman with her fists.

Goblin levels her

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Wonder woman easily.

Attacks of doomsday >> Bombs of Green Goblin

WW is street level in comic vine

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#16 death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

Wonder woman easily.

Attacks of doomsday >> Bombs of Green Goblin

WW is street level in comic vine

She took DDs punch on her shield.. she doesn’t have her shield here.. and Goblin doesn’t have his bombs.. it’s H2H.

I posted a feat for Goblin in post 13, care to show a unarmed Diana feat that beats it? Should be easy right? She’s had 4 movies.

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Bruh these DCEU guys are literally hopeless at debates now.

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@crclopezos said:

Wonder woman easily.

Attacks of doomsday >> Bombs of Green Goblin

WW is street level in comic vine

She took DDs punch on her shield.. she doesn’t have her shield here.. and Goblin doesn’t have his bombs.. it’s H2H.

I posted a feat for Goblin in post 13, care to show a unarmed Diana feat that beats it? Should be easy right? She’s had 4 movies.

Literally endure the blows of revived Superman.

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#21 death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

@death4bunnies said:
@crclopezos said:

Wonder woman easily.

Attacks of doomsday >> Bombs of Green Goblin

WW is street level in comic vine

She took DDs punch on her shield.. she doesn’t have her shield here.. and Goblin doesn’t have his bombs.. it’s H2H.

I posted a feat for Goblin in post 13, care to show a unarmed Diana feat that beats it? Should be easy right? She’s had 4 movies.

Ok, you win. Wonder woman is a pathetic street level, is that what you wanted to hear?

Lol naw man, I just want people to base things off feats and facts.. I don’t think she’s a street leveler, but I don’t think Spiderman or Goblin are either… pile driving a Spiderman through multiple floors of concrete and marble is laughably above the capabilities of LA streetlevelers.. it’s just fighting the Spider-Man who overpowers Cull and has fought Thanos and beaten Strange is nice, and the quantifiable feats are excellent.
If she doesn’t have the feats she doesn’t have the feats, no shame in being below these characters.

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@death4bunnies said:
@crclopezos said:
@death4bunnies said:
@crclopezos said:

Wonder woman easily.

Attacks of doomsday >> Bombs of Green Goblin

WW is street level in comic vine

She took DDs punch on her shield.. she doesn’t have her shield here.. and Goblin doesn’t have his bombs.. it’s H2H.

I posted a feat for Goblin in post 13, care to show a unarmed Diana feat that beats it? Should be easy right? She’s had 4 movies.

Ok, you win. Wonder woman is a pathetic street level, is that what you wanted to hear?

Lol naw man, I just want people to base things off feats and facts.. I don’t think she’s a street leveler, but I don’t think Spiderman or Goblin are either… pile driving a Spiderman through multiple floors of concrete and marble is laughably above the capabilities of LA streetlevelers.. it’s just fighting the Spider-Man who overpowers Cull and has fought Thanos and beaten Strange is nice, and the quantifiable feats are excellent.

If she doesn’t have the feats she doesn’t have the feats, no shame in being below these characters.

She literally managed to hold up Doomsday, assassinate a bunch of soldiers using super speed, Survive multiple Superman headbutts.

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Easily ww

She busted through easily ares 25 ton barrier he was telekinetcally lifting.

Ww easily bustwmed through a bank/buidling ceiling.

Took hits from dd and superman

Took hits from ares

Mcu wankers are a special type of idiocy

Goblin had laugeable striking in no way home. Ww hit the bank twrrorists harder

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@organic said:

Mcu wankers are a special type of idiocy

It's not just that they're wankers, it's the fact that they actually seem to believe Diana is Street Level or Low Mid Tier.

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#25  Edited By death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

@death4bunnies said:
@crclopezos said:
@death4bunnies said:
@crclopezos said:

Wonder woman easily.

Attacks of doomsday >> Bombs of Green Goblin

WW is street level in comic vine

She took DDs punch on her shield.. she doesn’t have her shield here.. and Goblin doesn’t have his bombs.. it’s H2H.

I posted a feat for Goblin in post 13, care to show a unarmed Diana feat that beats it? Should be easy right? She’s had 4 movies.

Ok, you win. Wonder woman is a pathetic street level, is that what you wanted to hear?

Lol naw man, I just want people to base things off feats and facts.. I don’t think she’s a street leveler, but I don’t think Spiderman or Goblin are either… pile driving a Spiderman through multiple floors of concrete and marble is laughably above the capabilities of LA streetlevelers.. it’s just fighting the Spider-Man who overpowers Cull and has fought Thanos and beaten Strange is nice, and the quantifiable feats are excellent.

If she doesn’t have the feats she doesn’t have the feats, no shame in being below these characters.

She literally managed to hold up Doomsday, assassinate a bunch of soldiers using super speed, Survive multiple Superman headbutts.

Doomsday overpowered her after he was kryptonite gassed and stabbed with a kryptonite spear.

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I don’t think that scaling holds up even in that very same scene, she not even as strong as a kryptonite poisoned DD.

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Spider-Man took multiple shots from Thanos, not headbutts but viscous shots like this^^.

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Spider-Man was also able to rock with Thanos a bit completely bending him over with that second hit.

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Whats the other one you mentioned? Killing a bunch of WW1 soldiers with speed?

Id rate this above WW1 soldiers , these drones are duel wielding machine guns and have Sonics and flamethrowers.. Spider-Man is punching and kicking them to pieces… on top of his 30+ feats of lightning timing in his new movie.

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I matched or exceeded every feat you mentioned... but I’ll go further.

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Zoom into either of these pics to see Spider-Man, can I see a Diana strength feat that matches?

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Still waiting on a single unarmed feat from Diana that comes close to what Goblin himself accomplished.

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5-6 story’s of concrete and marble busted, you’d think after 4 movies Diana would have a feat that could match if this was such a silly fight right?

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Lemme ask you this, you said “WW easily” in your first comment, after our discussion can you understand why some people(seems to be a majority) give a unarmed fight to Goblin?

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#26 death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

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Easily ww

She busted through easily ares 25 ton barrier he was telekinetcally lifting.

Ww easily bustwmed through a bank/buidling ceiling.

Took hits from dd and superman

Took hits from ares

Mcu wankers are a special type of idiocy

Goblin had laugeable striking in no way home. Ww hit the bank twrrorists harder

Lol, 25 ton?

Lol a single bank ceiling?

25 tons is something Spider-Man laughs at and he has similar outlier scaling, but he doesn’t need a magic shield.. lol.. and goblin busted through multiple concrete floors.

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Pretending that a bank ceiling is better than this is funny, saying that WW hit a terrorist harder is something strait up cope.
Organics comedy special is back.

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Do you still think What if is perfectly scalable? I noticed you disappeared after what it started getting them good feats when you were yelling at people that what if offers perfect scaling.. because if that’s the case, then Spider-Man scales even better to Thanos!!

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Lol everytime a MCU movie comes out, they immediately go to Diana....

I'm not strongly opinionated here....but considering she's had to fight base Cap, hammer cap, war machine, Agatha Harkness, Thena, White Vision and even 3 Sony symbiotes and the same people are saying she loses all these fights, I'm kinda at a loss of how to look at this fairly.

At this point it's clear MCU fans are kinda just going to lowball to infinity.

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I don't see why WW's outliers are an issue for Spiderman I mean take away BvS and she clearly isn't on that level and Spiderman has his own high-end feats with Thanos.

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#29 frozen  Moderator

@koays said:

Lol everytime a MCU movie comes out, they immediately go to Diana....

I'm not strongly opinionated here....but considering she's had to fight base Cap, hammer cap, war machine, Agatha Harkness, Thena, White Vision and even 3 Sony symbiotes and the same people are saying she loses all these fights, I'm kinda at a loss of how to look at this fairly.

At this point it's clear MCU fans are kinda just going to lowball to infinity.

Do people really think MCU Cap could beat her? I'm sure even those with a low opinion of her have her stomping that fight.

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#30 death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

I don't see why WW's outliers are an issue for Spiderman I mean take away BvS and she clearly isn't on that level and Spiderman has his own high-end feats with Thanos.

+1.

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Wonder Woman, easily.

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#34  Edited By heiqn
@koays said:

Lol everytime a MCU movie comes out, they immediately go to Diana....

I'm not strongly opinionated here....but considering she's had to fight base Cap, hammer cap, war machine, Agatha Harkness, Thena, White Vision and even 3 Sony symbiotes and the same people are saying she loses all these fights, I'm kinda at a loss of how to look at this fairly.

At this point it's clear MCU fans are kinda just going to lowball to infinity.

People always used Wonder Woman to wank their favorite character, nothing special here.

Because Wonder Woman seriously doesn't have any feats. She is just a few outliers and that's all.

If she had enough feats people wouldn't put her against Spider-Man believe me.

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You are biased as you are obtuse

She no selled going through the bank stone and the ceiling.

She has the speed , coordination and strength to laso a jetliner.(arm didnt get pulled off)

She no selled going through a large amount of debris held by ares tk(no shield dullard)

Spiderman went through 3 floors (minimal thickness) and the space between the floors dullard.

Ww can perceive and react to 50 cal bullets

She stopped the bully in ww 2 bar in a blink an eye

Ww struck the bank twrrorists with more force than goblin strikes

Facts dont care about your feelings

Dont contact me again dips..t

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@frozen said:
@koays said:

Lol everytime a MCU movie comes out, they immediately go to Diana....

I'm not strongly opinionated here....but considering she's had to fight base Cap, hammer cap, war machine, Agatha Harkness, Thena, White Vision and even 3 Sony symbiotes and the same people are saying she loses all these fights, I'm kinda at a loss of how to look at this fairly.

At this point it's clear MCU fans are kinda just going to lowball to infinity.

Do people really think MCU Cap could beat her? I'm sure even those with a low opinion of her have her stomping that fight.

Dude...in every conceivable way the fight has been done and people hair argued heavy against her.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/worthy-cap-mcu-vs-wonder-woman-dceu-2018517/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/mcu-captain-america-vs-dceu-wonder-woman-read-op-1880575/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/dceu-wonder-woman-vs-mcu-captain-america-1972379/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/dceu-wonder-woman-vs-mcu-supersoldiers-see-conditi-2078024/

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/captain-america-mcu-vs-wonder-woman-dceu-2068726/

I get it that MCU has diehards but this is ridiculous

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@koays: I mean to be fair most of those threads involve either equalizing stats, giving Cap Mjolnir (which makes him Thor level) or heavily restricting her feats.

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@organic:

Lol so now one ceiling >> multiple floors? Gtfoh.

3 floors? Are you that bad at counting?

Spider-Man also webbed a jet liner, in homecoming final battle, repeatedly.. I don’t use that feat because it’s so far below his other feats, funny you do tho.

Spider-Man reacts to billets a lot, and has like 30 feats of lightning timing.

A bully, human terrorists? Strait up comedy, Govlin punched To ye through a brick wall and slammed Holland through a apartment building, but sure ragdolling humans 5 meters is better to your bias eyes.

Lol couldn’t respond to evidence or answer simple questions I see, nothings changed on your end.

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Shouldn't Diana stomp?

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@heiqn said:
@koays said:

Lol everytime a MCU movie comes out, they immediately go to Diana....

I'm not strongly opinionated here....but considering she's had to fight base Cap, hammer cap, war machine, Agatha Harkness, Thena, White Vision and even 3 Sony symbiotes and the same people are saying she loses all these fights, I'm kinda at a loss of how to look at this fairly.

At this point it's clear MCU fans are kinda just going to lowball to infinity.

People always used Wonder Woman to wank their favorite character, nothing special here.

Because Wonder Woman seriously doesn't have any feats. She is just a few outliers and that's all.

If she had enough feats people wouldn't put her against Spider-Man believe me.

She has a ton of antifeats, Raj even made a whole thread about it.. for example a ParaDemon bull rushed her into a wall, she laid there and Wolf screamed finish her… but I have not want to debate antifeats, she definitely has them tho.

Shes been in 4 movies, she doesn’t have feats at the level people want her at(kryptonian level) because she’s not that level… she has a bunch of feats like busting through a stone wall, or lifting a tank; they just aren’t krypto level.

If she had better feats people would change thier mind, more of the same wouldn’t help her at all IMO.

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@g2_ said:

Shouldn't Diana stomp?

She def wins here, but a case can be made that prevents this from a stomp though

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#42 death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

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Shouldn't Diana stomp?

Not by feats, ive been asking for a unarmed Diana feat to match Goblins feats since the thread opened.. and nothing.

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Diana stomps, Norman wasn’t high tier in that movie.

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@death4bunnies:

She is a high mid-tier but still has trash feats, that's all about. At this point, every character who should be below her is above her, because they have tons of better feats, E.G Spider-Man who is a casual lightning timer.

Spider-Man still beats her in this fight, because he proved himself with feats. WW is nowhere near close to any Kryptonian.

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@heiqn: Yeaaaa see my problem is that people don't seem to understand what an outlier is in these threads.

Spiderman got hit by Thanos....OK. So did base Cap.... do they both now have Hulk and Ironman level durability? Or is it a low end for Thanos? If it's somehow normal for them then why is Diana tanking Supes and Doomsday an outlier?

See my problem is that anywhere else on this site the idea that a person only has a few feats and their all outliers is headscratching because if you only have a few feats and their all high level, why aren't you high level?

The thing is I'm more of a comics guy and yet watching all the logic fallacies, contradictions and double standards is something that alot of us laugh about from these threads is that people are bending over backwards to explain why nothing from their opponent counts instead of actually comparing the fighters....and this is from people with very little feeling on these topics.

It's just a bit amusing the way the rivalry between the sides has basically given way to lowball vs lowball instead of actually giving serious discussion and comparisons.

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@frozen: Yea but what does that say to you if there are 10 threads to try to prove that Cap can beat WW every year?

To me it's like someone saying "how about now? No? How about now? No? How about now?" Until they can get one and say "see told you she sucks"....

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WW stomps and solos MCU not incluing celestials,dormammu and IG thanos (and the garbage show known as what if)

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@heiqn said:

@death4bunnies:

She is a high mid-tier but still has trash feats, that's all about. At this point, every character who should be below her is above her, because they have tons of better feats, E.G Spider-Man who is a casual lightning timer.

Spider-Man still beats her in this fight, because he proved himself with feats. WW is nowhere near close to any Kryptonian.

Fair.

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Diana struggled with freaking Ludendorff