Green Goblin (Harry Osborn) vs MCU Iron Man

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Standard gear and weaponry, both are in-character, and the fight is to the death. Battle starts in Times Square and they start 20 yards apart.

Who wins and why?

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Iron Man?

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unless he fights Tony pre Iron Man 2, (hell, maybe before Mark 3) Harry doesn't stand a chance.

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I'd have to give this to Harry Osborne. He's strong enough to go toe to toe with Spider-man. In this series, Spiderman's reactions, strength and speed alone, place him at a level far superior to Iron Man, who had difficulty with The Winter Soldier & Captain America.

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@theflasher:

Iron man having trouble with Cap and Bucky was pure pis.

He wins this

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@jayskee said:

@theflasher:

Iron man having trouble with Cap and Bucky was pure pis.

He wins this

Bucky's metal arm was able to over-power one of Iron Man's. You shouldn't over-power Iron Man, who hasn't really done anything impressive.

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Iron Man should win.

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iron man

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I'd have to give this to Harry Osborne. He's strong enough to go toe to toe with Spider-man.

Harry was far from Spidey's level. Peter was just trying to calm him down in thier first fight, when he became bloodlusted, he stomped him, even though Harry had location advantage and many weapons.

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@krleavenger: Yeah, I know. He stomped him even in their first fight.

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Tony stomps

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@g2_: Well he did not really stomp him in the First fight.

Maybe, but he held back the entire fight.

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Depends what suit.

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Tony Stomps,Harry got no chance.

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@krleavenger: Because he wasn't, he didn't even land a single hit. Also, Harry ambushed him.

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@theflasher: you clearly haven't seen any of the Avengers or Iron man movies

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Iron Man wins handily. Although, it'd probably be a decent fight.

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@g2_: Yes I know. Clearly Norman was superior.

Are we talking about Norman or Harry?

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#30  Edited By DSTREET45

@krleavenger said:

@g2_: About Harry so I just mentioned how Norman is clearly superior in every way.

How? Norman pretty much just fought a comparatively noobish Spidey and got stomped as soon as Peter was bloodlusted. Harry, while losing to a Peter who wasn't ready nor trying to fight, fought a more experienced and likely stronger version (via SM2 and SM3 feats). He also held his own against a morals off Peter later in the movie and ended up doing better than Papa Goblin. Not to mention that his glider is sleeker and has quicker manuverability and gear is more or less the same.

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@jayskee: lol don't bother with him, the guy thinks MCU Spidey can beat MCU Thor.

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Tony pretty easily.

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@dstreet45: He was getting stomped actually.

Maybe during the second part of the fight but the first part was more even.

In the fight in his house it was Harry attacking and Peter answered with dodges and counter attacks. Peter let Harry attack him so that he could dodge and land his own blows.

  1. Peter's the first one to attack in the fight after Harry provoked him. Harry shrugged off the punches and stabbed Peter in the middle of his attack with Peter barely being able to stop the blade from causing more than a shallow wound and struggling to push Harry's hand back.
  2. Peter then gets two hits in but also got hit by Harry twice before breaking his arm blades. Note Peter is also struggling to push Harry's arm back again in this shot.
  3. Peter then punches Harry but gets his backhand punch blocked and Harry kicks him near the fireplace.
  4. Harry gets a punch in but Peter retaliates by kicking Harry into the balcony.

So yes I do think that Harry was holding his own. Before Harry got kicked through the door, he was matching Peter blow for blow.

Not to mention that Peter Harry was fighting with was Morals Off Peter who did not have problem on hurting or killing Harry.

However Norman was fighting fully bloodlusted Peter who was attacking him over and over again.

Yet Harry was able to counterattack unlike his father.

Harry maybe fought older SPider-man but that does not change the fact that he had problems against Peter who did not want to fight him and was not ready and was also focused on his ring yet Harry still lost, while Norman was facing Peter who was not getting sucker punched over and over again and was fully focused on the fight itself (at least the battle in the burned house and after the fight on the bridge).

Guess I don't need to mention Norman getting several free cheap shots in the bridge fight since you mentioned it. But before the fight in the house started Peter was dropped, what a hundred feet and barely managed to save himself and a second later took a bomb to the face that sent him flying through a brick wall.

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So it's not like Norman was fighting a particularly fresh Peter to begin with.

Also Harry was punching and throwing Peter around yet Peter tanked it just fine

Just like Peter was tanking Norman's punches in their first two fights particularly their second fight.

while in his fight against Norman, every single punch affected him pretty badly.

Because he already got some cheap shots during the bridge fight, and threw a bomb at Peter's face before the guy oriented himself from crashing into the house. He was clearly weakened before Norman got off the glider.

Not to mention that Norman was trying to weaken Peter's spirit by attacking the ones who were closest to him. Hence the whole Gollum conversation with the mask by the fireplace in the scene before he attacked Aunt May.

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Add Norman to Harry's side and it'll be closer.

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Green Goblin. Even Spider-Man struggled to fight him.

And don't say "But he won when they fought in the penthouse." because Peter already had symbiote powers by then.

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#40  Edited By DottiestMoon

Iron man should win this. Norman Osborn would be a better fight by either Rami or comic version.

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People are actually saying Tony stomps? lmao

Harry destroys him.

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Tony stomps.

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@tj849 said:

People are actually saying Tony stomps? lmao

Harry destroys him.

I mean, I think Harry has better general stats... but Iron Man has far superior maneuverability and has his lasers. If it's a battle to the death... what's stopping Tony from just using his one off's and slicing Harry into carpaccio?

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@tj849 said:

People are actually saying Tony stomps? lmao

Harry destroys him.

I mean, I think Harry has better general stats... but Iron Man has far superior maneuverability and has his lasers. If it's a battle to the death... what's stopping Tony from just using his one off's and slicing Harry into carpaccio?

In character... Tonys not going to go for the Lasers. Harry with the goblin formula is basically morals off/bloodlusted so he...

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His rockets on his glider took down Giant Sandman and come on we all know Giant Sandman is way more durable than MCU Iron Man. Harry can one shot with these rockets

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His flamethrower took off Giant Sandmans arm

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Hes fast enough to blitz Spider-Man and NOT trigger his precog/Spidey sense

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Dodged Peters quick time web shots with ease

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Shatters this huge chunk of concrete

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Tanks getting his head smashed on the railing with (it was Peter who threw him btw, symbiote)

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Beats Symbitoe Peter in strength.

Yawn.

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Tony Curbstomps.

Add Harrys Daddy and Tony still stomps.

My god the more I think about the Raimi movies ... The cringe is not bearable.

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Probably Harry.

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@tj849: Why wouldn't he use lasers? He tried to use the lasers on Bucky almost immediately when he was going for the kill.

Iron Man generally isn't going for the kill, so why wouldn't he just use his inhumanly fast laser beams to kill his opponent in the most efficient way possible...

While flying straight up at Mach 3 to not get touched by the Glider that has no real travel speed feats?

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@tj849: What feats does Sandman have to be remotely in the same league as MCU Iron Man in durability?

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Depends on what suit Tony has. Since it's the most current version we go by, Green Goblin stomps

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@tj849: Why wouldn't he use lasers? He tried to use the lasers on Bucky almost immediately when he was going for the kill.

Iron Man generally isn't going for the kill, so why wouldn't he just use his inhumanly fast laser beams to kill his opponent in the most efficient way possible...

While flying straight up at Mach 3 to not get touched by the Glider that has no real travel speed feats?

Why wouldn't he use lasers? He tried to use the lasers on Bucky almost immediately when he was going for the kill.Iron Man generally isn't going for the kill, so why wouldn't he just use his inhumanly fast laser beams to kill his opponent in the most efficient way possible...

Read the OP, hes in character. Tony aint using lasers, hes just gonna repulsor blast spam and even that aint bringing down Harry as he swifted through a multi pumpkin bomb explosion, my man is too durable. Also Tony was bloodlusted then, he found out his parents were killed by Bucky smh.

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While flying straight up at Mach 3 to not get touched by the Glider that has no real travel speed feats?

He blitz Peter without triggering his spidey sense/precog. He was able to keep at a moderate speed in a confined space.

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flying straight up at Mach 3

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This was calculated at Mach 15...

Try harder and actually provide feats.