Great Evil Beast vs Death Of Endless

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#1 Posted by Supermanthor (22699 posts) - - Show Bio
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#3 Posted by TonyStark6999 (2722 posts) - - Show Bio

GEB

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#4 Posted by Soratoumiga (4248 posts) - - Show Bio

Technically, GEB wins, because his scaling with the Presence, but that is largely contradicted by many things. Death has a wider range in her power, as she exists in the Void, Marvel etc, so an argument can be made for her winning.

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#5 Posted by Rijehu (1859 posts) - - Show Bio

GEB scales to the Presence...that alone would place it vastly above Death. It was also powerful enough to where Lucifer Morningstar took caution and joined a Triumverant in Hell in case all chaos broke loose. Lucifer is more powerful than the Endless and doesn't flinch at either of them so that alone should speak to the GEB's power.

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#6 Edited by Soratoumiga (4248 posts) - - Show Bio

@rijehu: Lucifer doesn't flinch to any of the Endless, except Death.

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#7 Posted by Supermanthor (22699 posts) - - Show Bio

@rijehu: Lucifer doesn't flinch to any of the Endless, except Death.

even then dc sees archangels > endless

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#8 Posted by Supermanthor (22699 posts) - - Show Bio

@soratoumiga: @rijehu:can you guys post a clear pic of geb i dont know how he is actually looks like

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#9 Posted by Soratoumiga (4248 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: He doesn't really have a physical, clear form, he's usually depicted as just pure darkness, so your pic is appropriate.

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#10 Posted by Rijehu (1859 posts) - - Show Bio

Technically, GEB wins, because his scaling with the Presence, but that is largely contradicted by many things. Death has a wider range in her power, as she exists in the Void, Marvel etc, so an argument can be made for her winning.

Only problem is her scale of influence doesn't correlate to her being more powerful. Death is complicated in the sense that her power can only be gaged by the hierarchy she's from. She's easily one of the most powerful beings in DC actuality and possibly comics, but she has her superiors still. Yes she can hop between omniverses, but as shown in the original Lucifer comics as well as the recent run, he is still more powerful in raw power and can even bind her with rituals and prevent her from claiming a life.

Also, The Presence himself has been heavily implied to encompass the void as well, it being merely an aspect of him so even even GEB is a slightly less powerful aspect, it's more than enough here.

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#11 Posted by Yasindermann (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

In some interpretations, GEB scales to the presnece. With that, he is way above Death.

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#12 Posted by Soratoumiga (4248 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor:

even then dc sees archangels > endless

This is contradicted by many things.

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#13 Posted by Soratoumiga (4248 posts) - - Show Bio

@rijehu: I would frankly agree with you, Lucifer does have more fire power, more attack potency and destructive capability, but Death would trump him in potency range.

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#14 Posted by Rijehu (1859 posts) - - Show Bio

@rijehu: Lucifer doesn't flinch to any of the Endless, except Death.

Death has never intimidated Lucifer in the slightest, nor does she have the power to wipe him out. Can he be brought unto death? Certainly, but only by beings his equal or greater than him. Death herself however, can not claim him outright. This has been states and shown several times, including in the current Lucifer run.

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@rijehu: is it safe to say that michael can beat death ?

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#16 Posted by Rijehu (1859 posts) - - Show Bio

@rijehu: I would frankly agree with you, Lucifer does have more fire power, more attack potency and destructive capability, but Death would trump him in potency range.

That only means that Death wouldn't be kept down permanently unless all things tethering her are wiped out. In a straight up battle, Lucifer would destroy her endlessly, only for her to take another aspect.

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@rijehu: Their interaction did prove that he does not care much about her, but it was the same way around; she didn't seem very threatened by him either, later on, he even stated that Death is an inevitable thing, meaning that he knows how she's valuable and important to not only Yahweh's creation, but his own as well, and others. And yes, she can't claim him right away, whenever she pleases, it's "when the time comes", according to her own quote.

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#18 Posted by Soratoumiga (4248 posts) - - Show Bio

@rijehu: It's virtually impossible for Lucifer to completely destroy Death, he may destroy an aspect of her true self, but much like how New Gods are treated within the DC Multiverse, destroying an aspect (avatar) won't truly destroy her (them), as she exists in Marvel, where Lucifer holds no sway.

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#19 Posted by Rijehu (1859 posts) - - Show Bio

@rijehu: Their interaction did prove that he does not care much about her, but it was the same way around; she didn't seem very threatened by him either, later on, he even stated that Death is an inevitable thing, meaning that he knows how she's valuable and important to not only Yahweh's creation, but his own as well, and others. And yes, she can't claim him right away, whenever she pleases, it's "when the time comes", according to her own quote.

Exactly. Both Lucifer and Death kind of have this nonchalant relationship. She knows he is more powerful than her and he does too. But he knows how essential she is to creation and she does to.

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#20 Posted by Yamiyodare (2100 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalemate or probably The Great Evil Beast in a tough fight. But The endless at the moment are getting a notch in terms of feats, so anything is possible.

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#22 Posted by Rijehu (1859 posts) - - Show Bio

@rijehu: It's virtually impossible for Lucifer to completely destroy Death, he may destroy an aspect of her true self, but much like how New Gods are treated within the DC Multiverse, destroying an aspect (avatar) won't truly destroy her (them), as she exists in Marvel, where Lucifer holds no sway.

Agreed. But in a direct confrontation between them, he would only need wipe out her current embodiment to win. Much like she did to Dream and Destiny. Again, he has also prevented her from claiming lives on panel so Lucifer has his way around even her.

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#23 Posted by Soratoumiga (4248 posts) - - Show Bio

@rijehu: When did he prevent her to claim lives? I can't remember.

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#24 Edited by deactivated-5cef1a02a31b9 (283 posts) - - Show Bio

GEB stomps all wanked endless

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#25 Posted by MiracleComeBack (2208 posts) - - Show Bio

death

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^^ Funny.

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#27 Posted by deactivated-5cef1a02a31b9 (283 posts) - - Show Bio

GEB still murks the fodder

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#28 Posted by johnsmjs36 (784 posts) - - Show Bio

GEB does scale to Presence but we don't really know how much power it possesses. So, either stalemate or GEB

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#29 Posted by RandomGuy287 (2070 posts) - - Show Bio

geb

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#30 Edited by bdelloidgrain2 (1998 posts) - - Show Bio

GEB wins due to scaling. Interesting match. Thanks for the tag :)

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#31 Posted by sabracadabra (1653 posts) - - Show Bio

GEB.

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#34 Posted by Rijehu (1859 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor said:

@rijehu: is it safe to say that michael can beat death ?

dude ?

Yes he along with Lucifer as well as other beings above her in that hierarchy can overpower her and destroy her vessel countless times, but due to her function, she'll eventually re-manifest unless that process can be interfered with.

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#35 Posted by Rijehu (1859 posts) - - Show Bio

@rijehu: When did he prevent her to claim lives? I can't remember.

New Lucifer 2018. He bound Death from claiming a Raven that was doing his bidding. And this Lucifer was without his wings. Death had also shown limitations regarding certain encounters with the Endless (but these are usually laws set by the Presence himself) and Madam Xanadu has outmaneuvered her once on panel.

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#37 Posted by Supermanthor (22699 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#38 Posted by Yamiyodare (2100 posts) - - Show Bio

GEB is more powerful than the Endless. He should win without too much trouble.