Round 1
New 52 Darkseid
No Prep
Morals Off
Bloodlust On
They know each other
Win by KO/Death/BFR
Round 2
Pre N52 Darkseid
No Prep
Morals Off
Bloodlust On
They know each other
Win by KO/Death
Location
Who wins
Round 1
New 52 Darkseid
No Prep
Morals Off
Bloodlust On
They know each other
Win by KO/Death/BFR
Round 2
Pre N52 Darkseid
No Prep
Morals Off
Bloodlust On
They know each other
Win by KO/Death
Who wins
@comic_book_fan: @thundergodswrath:
Why and do they win both rounds
gor might beat current Darkseid but pre 52 Darkseid kills him he is stronger and has way to versatile power set and the omega effect will end this quickly if Darkseid decides to.
Gorr has few showings, but those showings are enough to say that he is too much for the dark lord of Apokolips.
@comic_book_fan: @thundergodswrath:
Why and do they win both rounds
Well he beat an Odin Force Thor, Modern Thor, and Young Thor at the same time. Something I highly doubt Darkseid could replicate.
gor might beat current Darkseid but pre 52 Darkseid kills him he is stronger and has way to versatile power set and the omega effect will end this quickly if Darkseid decides to.
Ok lets gets the ball rolling :p hehe, i am just gonna play the devil's advocate:
1. Darkseid is stronger based on what? We have seen Darkseid physically match by Superman, we have seen Darkseid himself say Superman physically matches him, and Orion himself has done it on 3 occasions that i know of, he also got outright humbled by Doomsday, why would that so any inherent superiority against Gorr when the guy took on 3 Thors together, one of whom is meant to be a skyfather. Took a lightning that physically hurled him lightyears away in mere moments, yet he didnt get KO. Thor hit him so hard the planet was cracking and he took it with ease.
So why and how is Darkseid physically superior.
2. Darkseid is more versatile, i agree.
3. Omega effect will end this quickly? Based on what? When has Darkseid ever taken down a character of this magnitude. We have seen Superman withstand it on multiple occasions, Orion has done that once as well, so has Highfather, so has Mary Marvel, so has Doomsday, so has new god amped Jimmy Olsen, why would a guy who took on a skyfather and actually beat him despite him having back up, killed Elder Gods, slayed entire pantheons with ease, would struggle against Darkseid?
Also just a tad bit, Gorr isnt your traditional Thor villian, dont judge him based on that. He has thus far outright been the most powerful Thor solo villain (not considering Celestials, Galactus etc as actual Thor villians). I know we have an issue to go, but till now the dude seem outright scary powerful.
gor might beat current Darkseid but pre 52 Darkseid kills him he is stronger and has way to versatile power set and the omega effect will end this quickly if Darkseid decides to.
Ok lets gets the ball rolling :p hehe, i am just gonna play the devil's advocate:
1. Darkseid is stronger based on what? We have seen Darkseid physically match by Superman, we have seen Darkseid himself say Superman physically matches him, and Orion himself has done it on 3 occasions that i know of, he also got outright humbled by Doomsday, why would that so any inherent superiority against Gorr when the guy took on 3 Thors together, one of whom is meant to be a skyfather. Took a lightning that physically hurled him lightyears away in mere moments, yet he didnt get KO. Thor hit him so hard the planet was cracking and he took it with ease.
So why and how is Darkseid physically superior.
2. Darkseid is more versatile, i agree.
3. Omega effect will end this quickly? Based on what? When has Darkseid ever taken down a character of this magnitude. We have seen Superman withstand it on multiple occasions, Orion has done that once as well, so has Highfather, so has Mary Marvel, so has Doomsday, so has new god amped Jimmy Olsen, why would a guy who took on a skyfather and actually beat him despite him having back up, killed Elder Gods, slayed entire pantheons with ease, would struggle against Darkseid?
Also just a tad bit, Gorr isnt your traditional Thor villian, dont judge him based on that. He has thus far outright been the most powerful Thor solo villain (not considering Celestials, Galactus etc as actual Thor villians). I know we have an issue to go, but till now the dude seem outright scary powerful.
How about Surtur? Anyways I agree.
I will be totally honestly, i so did not think about Surtur when i wrote that, i was thinking more about regular Thor villians like Mangog, Uroc, Destroyer Armour etc.
Surtur might actually be more powerful, but at least without the twilight sword that becomes debatable. With the Twilight Sword , yeah i'd agree Surtur is more powerful.
Glory might be another one. Dark Gods might also be a close contestants.
But i suppose they are about it.
P.S. Surtur is more like Odin enemy rather than Thor's, as its Odin who more often than not ends up fighting Surtur.
@killemall: That is true.
Something tells me that Gorr would go bloodlust if he found out who DS is and what he's done....
I think the opposite, Darkseid used to go around killing gods; they'd probably share stories of the gods they've killed.
@cgoodness: Gorr couldn't even kill a young, inexperienced, Thor, who didn't even have Mjolnir at the time. Gorr killed a whole bunch of nobody gods to hype him up for Thor. DARKSEID wrecks!
@cgoodness: Gorr couldn't even kill a young, inexperienced, Thor, who didn't even have Mjolnir at the time. Gorr killed a whole bunch of nobody gods to hype him up for Thor. DARKSEID wrecks!
Gorr defeated Thor Force Thor, Current Thor and Young Thor at the same time
@dondave: no he didn't... Thor still lives. Gorr is all hyperbole, a real good villain for a specific story arc. Darkseid is the man! One of DC's greatest super villains.
@dondave: no he didn't... Thor still lives. Gorr is all hyperbole, a real good villain for a specific story arc. Darkseid is the man! One of DC's greatest super villains.
Gorr didn't attempt to kill them directly, he defeated them and left them alive.
@dondave: sure! Yea. Look I like Gorr but he doesn't have enough feats on record to be deemed a Darkseid killer. Call me when Gorr kills a god that is 'somebody' in the Marvel universe.
@dondave: no he didn't... Thor still lives. Gorr is all hyperbole, a real good villain for a specific story arc. Darkseid is the man! One of DC's greatest super villains.
There is a difference between defeating and killing.
@killemall: agreed Darkseid still wins tho, but one thing i want to know were was zues,poseidon,hades when gorr was killing the gods? did gorr kill them to because king thor said he was the only god left that wasen't in slavery.
@blackdog2009: One of the Thors that Gorr beat was on Skyfather level and I recall Gorr killed a Elder Of The Universe.
@patrat18: Its Thor series, they only focused on Asgardians, they do that all the time... so yeah Zeus and Hercules where playing patty-cake when that happened.
It did focus other gods though, he could have killed them throughout the time between Modern Thor's and Thor Force Thor's time period
Gorr has few showings, but those showings are enough to say that he is too much for the dark lord of Apokolips.
There is no evidence that Gorr would defeat Darkseid. Darkseid's Omega Beams could erase Gorr from existence, time displace him or even send him to an alternate reality. Hell, Darkseid could even resurrect Gorr after killing him and then kill him again just for fun. Darkseid is not a run of the mill god, some nameless, no backstory shmuck. He is the ruler of Apokolips, has GENIUS LEVEL intelligence is immortal, and has gone toe to toe with Silver Surfer and Galactus in the same day! DARKSEID IS!!
Gorr stomps pretty handily. Someone who can take on an Odin Force Thor who's had thousands of years to learn how to wield it along with a modern Thor (who's a planet busting powerhouse in his own right) and a younger Thor who's pretty powerful is not someone Darkseid can handle. Either in his Pre or Post New 52 incarnations.
Not cannon, and in the story he beat surfer but had to back down from big g. Also the ow can't erase people who are near or on DS level
Gorr for both rounds.
Yes Gorr couldn't beat Young Thor in the beginning, but he grew in power and by the end of the arc, he was showing a lot of power. He took a lot from the Thors, and one of them was a sky father as well as high herald Thor. He had high durability and power to knock all three out. Darkseid is strong but Gorr is out of his league.
@lvenger: ...maybe you are right about Gorr defeating even pre-52 darkseid,he is really a beast. Still i think that DD defeating the whole league in a single blast was awesome and impressive. For shure they were not koed for a long time...and for shure that blast could not kill even batman...and for shure he couldn't replicate such a feat later in the fight...but ( at least at the beginning) he has koed ALL of them without trying.
However ,yes, Gorr takes both the rounds. I am not too inclined to say he can defeat even the new DD (since we still don't know much about him), but for now he tops him in every way.
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