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Poll Golden Sperm VS Psykos (82 votes)

Golden Sperm 49%
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#1 Naronu  Online

He stomps Psykos, loses to Psykorochi

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#3  Edited By AbstractRaze

GoldenSperm stombs Psykos.

We have to wait if PsykosOrochi is stronger, because at this moment, Tatzumaki is already weakened and she managed to defeat PsykosOrochi, while later on, she couldn't manage to stop GoldenSperm, she was weakened like she currently is right now, but she couldn't bend down GoldenSperm, in fact, he slapped Tatzumaki unconsciously, she was totally defenseless.

In terms of power level, GoldenSperm should be above and of course, Orochi is a no one for the likes of BlackSperm who later on becomes the GoldenSperm, he could care less about Psykos and Orochi's agenda in regards to the Monster Asociation's hierarchy.

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When BlackSperm became the GoldenSperm, he sacrificed his regeneration capabilities for an upper physical composition way beyond Tatzumaki's comprehension, to the point where Tatzumaki couldn't compress him anymore, GoldenSperm's incredible organic density is beyond Tatzumaki's limits. While she could compress the likes of PsykosOrochi, who has insane psychic capabilities those compensating for a weaker physical prowess in order to somehow resist Tatzumaki's psychic powers.

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#4  Edited By GangOrca

@abstractraze:

Not only did Golden Sperm face a much weaker Tatsumaki than the one that beat Psykorochi (Tatsumaki also hasn't taken any serious injuries to the head so her TK right now should only be barely weaker than her full power if at all) but Orochi is obviously more powerful than basic Black Sperm who was having trouble with much weaker heroes.

OT: Psykorochi beats Golden Sperm for now. We should wait for the manga to make final decisions.

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@abstractraze: I don't like using ONE as feats since the feats in Murata is way stronger in redrawn, and a healthy Tatsumaki would beat Golden Sperm according to ONE, and she couldn't twist his head off because she's heavily injured. As things stand, we don't know how Golden Sperm's strength in the redrawn version. All we know that according to Murata, he said he doesn't know who would be stronger between Orochi and Golden Sperm but said that Orochi has superior technique, so if it's around the same level, the fusion level of Psyko and Orochi should have superior technique and fire power.

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#6  Edited By AbstractRaze

@gangorca said:

@abstractraze:

Not only did Golden Sperm face a much weaker Tatsumaki than the one that beat Psykorochi (Tatsumaki also hasn't taken any serious injuries to the head so her TK right now should only be barely weaker than her full power if at all) but Orochi is obviously more powerful than basic Black Sperm who was having trouble with much weaker heroes.

OT: Psykorochi beats Golden Sperm for now. We should wait for the manga to make final decisions.

ONE only stated that if it wouldn't have been due to Tatzumaki's injury to her head, she could have beaten GoldenSperm.

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'The definition of "could've" is something that potentially might have happened if it weren't for another alternative.'

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So, it could have been the case, but it's uncertain and we don't know if she already has an injury to her head, however, it's curious that ONE used GoldenSperm in order to boost Garou to his final form instead of Tatzumaki.

To me it's suspicious, however, after the Monster association arc, ONE once more again emphasizes that GoldenSperm is beyond common comprehensions, such as the likes of Garou.

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But I still insist that we have to wait for the next chapters.

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@abstractraze: You bring up good points but if Tatsumaki was as badly injured against Psykorochi as she was against Sperm it's possible that she could've also resisted her TK. Like I said, we should wait for Golden Sperm to reach the manga before passing down final judgement.

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#8  Edited By poeticwarrior

@abstractraze:

ONE: If Tatsumaki was in perfect shape, then against Golden Sperm it would be victory.

  • T/N: It's hard to interpret the nuances from a single quote, but what ONE said was "タツマキが万全なら黄金精子に勝てる" He never specified how much difficulty she would have.

It's more or less the English translation that got lost, but she would defeat Black Sperm. It's just the words when rely that create a different impression, but she would beat Black Sperm in a healthy state.

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GS skeets her

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@agrape said:

GS skeets her

How? He has no feats yet to indicate this.

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#11  Edited By poeticwarrior

We really need to wait til Golden Sperm to appear before we could make a clear judgment since ONE version is often weaker. Golden Sperm's feat isn't very impressive yet.

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#12 Eredin12  Online

Psykos stomps so far

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#13  Edited By AbstractRaze

@poeticwarrior: It's still not clear, we don't really know if she already was injured against her head, she already was injured in a lot of ways and she still squished PsykosOrochi with medium efforts, later on, she managed to squish Multi-cell Sperm, but GoldenSperm effortlessly overcame all of it.

I agree that the translation is dubious, but it was more likely established on a hypothesis, than rather something certain, we have to wait for the next chapters.

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And of course, we have to once more again take some importance on the scans presented after the Monster Asociation Arc, ONE is clearly testifying GoldenSperm and Garou to be on a whole different level of prowess that matches the likes of Tatzumaki, even the likes of Tatzumaki recognizes her powers as not powerful enough against those individuals, while of course Monster Garou is above GoldenSperm, but GoldenSperm still holds his ground.

Such scan is there for one reason, and Black Sperm and Overgrownrover survived for a reason too, it are monsters with incredible potential and it are foes with incredible outliers, Overgrownrover survived a punch from Saitama and GoldenSperm slapped Tatzumaki unconsciously and lived to fight against Garou, those pushing Garou to the next level.

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We shouldn't really compare webcomic power-levels to the manga's. It's better to wait a few chapters.

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@abstractraze: overgrown Rover didn't get killed is likely because Saitama recognize him as a dog instead of a monster. He even said that and especially when facing Orochi, that's when Saitama said that he's definitely a monster. Saitama adjusts his strength according often. Especially against monster Garou who he sees as nothing more than a guy in a costume and he doesn't want to be a murderer. Both Psyko and gs are below Tata but just by what amount tbh. Characters are kept alive for various reasons, and it may not be about power but whether ONE has a plan for them like the duo ninja who survived but got killed by Sonic and Flash later

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Golden Sperm shrugs psychic attacks. So I'm going to give this to Golden Sperm.

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#17  Edited By AbstractRaze

@poeticwarrior said:

@abstractraze: overgrown Rover didn't get killed is likely because Saitama recognize him as a dog instead of a monster. He even said that and especially when facing Orochi, that's when Saitama said that he's definitely a monster. Saitama adjusts his strength according often. Especially against monster Garou who he sees as nothing more than a guy in a costume and he doesn't want to be a murderer. Both Psyko and gs are below Tata but just by what amount tbh. Characters are kept alive for various reasons, and it may not be about power but whether ONE has a plan for them like the duo ninja who survived but got killed by Sonic and Flash later

Don't come with that story, it's a very inauthentic, lazy and conformist conclusion on the matter, because the side effects of such a punch, the collateral damage were far greater than other punches against the likes of Beefcake, Carnage Kabuto, Deep SeaKing, the shockwave was even more intense than the punch against Orochi on his final form.

Normally, such a punch vaporizes Saitama's enemies in an instant, it was even a far greater punch than the one against Boros in his armor.

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@hegemon said:

Golden Sperm shrugs psychic attacks. So I'm going to give this to Golden Sperm.

Yeah, from a much weaker Tatsumaki. Why don't people get that?

Don't come with that story, it's a very inauthentic, lazy and conformist conclusion on the matter, because the side effects of such a punch, the collateral damage were far greater than other punches against the likes of Beefcake, Carnage Kabuto, Deep SeaKing, the shockwave was even more intense than the punch against Orochi on his final form.

Normally, such a punch vaporizes Saitama's enemies in an instant, it was even a far greater punch than the one against Boros in his armor.

Dude, Saitama says flat out he held back and was going to give Orochi "a normal beating". Collateral damage is something that's heavily inconsistent with Saitama's strikes and are a poor way of measuring the power of someone he is hitting.

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#19  Edited By poeticwarrior

@abstractraze: Yeah, I'm definitely coming up with that story. Couldn't care less if you think it's lazy or conformist when it's literally in the dialogue. He even said he could hit him NORMALLY. You act like it's the first time. Saitama KO Garou with a hit thinking he's a mugger and that kind of force would kill a normal person. It's fictional and often play out for story. Saitama has always held back but he only uses as much strength as required for the story.

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@gangorca: We don't yet know whether or not she was. Exhausted? Yes.

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#21  Edited By Necromancer76

We should definitely wait for manga Golden Sperm. As of right now, I'd say manga Psykorochi beats webcomic Golden Sperm. However, there's no way ONE and Murata don't give Golden Sperm a sizeable buff to make him a genuine threat. I'm inclined to believe that Psykorochi will still have more AP but Golden Sperm will have far greater speed, possibly greater durability, and pretty strong AP as well, so I'd give hypothetical Golden Sperm the edge for now.

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We should definitely wait for manga Golden Sperm. As of right now, I'd say manga Psykorochi beats webcomic Golden Sperm. However, there's no way ONE and Murata don't give Golden Sperm a sizeable buff to make him a genuine threat. I'm inclined to believe that Psykorochi will still have more AP but Golden Sperm will have far greater speed, possibly greater durability, and pretty strong AP as well, so I'd give hypothetical Golden Sperm the edge for now.

And, Golden Sperm fights on physical ground. So hes going to be fundamentally different. More a one punch man kinda deal than Tatsumaki

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#23  Edited By AbstractRaze

@gangorca said:
@abstractraze said:
Don't come with that story, it's a very inauthentic, lazy and conformist conclusion on the matter, because the side effects of such a punch, the collateral damage were far greater than other punches against the likes of Beefcake, Carnage Kabuto, Deep SeaKing, the shockwave was even more intense than the punch against Orochi on his final form.

Normally, such a punch vaporizes Saitama's enemies in an instant, it was even a far greater punch than the one against Boros in his armor.

Dude, Saitama says flat out he held back and was going to give Orochi "a normal beating". Collateral damage is something that's heavily inconsistent with Saitama's strikes and are a poor way of measuring the power of someone he is hitting.

Yeah and he still put to shreds Orochi.

In the chapter where Rover stood up after Orochi ordered Rover to attack Saitama and he of course fleed away, ONE explicitly said on chapter 106, "Another one who survived Saitama's punch", those implying the successor of Boros in terms of surviving a punch from Saitama.

Feats are feats, weaker punches put in shambles prior monsters with relative ease, what you are suggesting is lame.

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@hegemon said:
@necromancer76 said:

We should definitely wait for manga Golden Sperm. As of right now, I'd say manga Psykorochi beats webcomic Golden Sperm. However, there's no way ONE and Murata don't give Golden Sperm a sizeable buff to make him a genuine threat. I'm inclined to believe that Psykorochi will still have more AP but Golden Sperm will have far greater speed, possibly greater durability, and pretty strong AP as well, so I'd give hypothetical Golden Sperm the edge for now.

And, Golden Sperm fights on physical ground. So hes going to be fundamentally different. More a one punch man kinda deal than Tatsumaki

Agreed, they're totally different fighters. Awakened Garou is in the same category as Golden Sperm as well. He probably can't slice off part of the planet like Psykorochi can, but does that mean he's weaker than her? Probably not.

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#26  Edited By GangOrca

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@gangorca: We don't yet know whether or not she was. Exhausted? Yes.

She gets a brain injury at that point in the webcomic which drastically decreases her powers. ONE already said a full power Tatsumaki kills Golden Sperm.

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ONE explicitly said on chapter 106, "Another one who survived Saitama's punch", those implying the successor of Boros in terms of surviving a punch from Saitama.

Feats are feats, weaker punches put in shambles prior monsters with relative ease, what you are suggesting is lame.

Dude, that doesn't mean Saitama couldn't kill him with a normal punch if he wanted to. Calling Rover a successor to Boros is disrespectful to Boros. Boros made Saitama use a punch greater than a normal one.

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@hegemon said:
@necromancer76 said:

We should definitely wait for manga Golden Sperm. As of right now, I'd say manga Psykorochi beats webcomic Golden Sperm. However, there's no way ONE and Murata don't give Golden Sperm a sizeable buff to make him a genuine threat. I'm inclined to believe that Psykorochi will still have more AP but Golden Sperm will have far greater speed, possibly greater durability, and pretty strong AP as well, so I'd give hypothetical Golden Sperm the edge for now.

And, Golden Sperm fights on physical ground. So hes going to be fundamentally different. More a one punch man kinda deal than Tatsumaki

Agreed, they're totally different fighters. Awakened Garou is in the same category as Golden Sperm as well. He probably can't slice off part of the planet like Psykorochi can, but does that mean he's weaker than her? Probably not.

Exactly.

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lol 5 people voted for GS and he hasn't even appeared in the manga. This is sad, there's nothing suggesting he beats Psykorochi as of now.

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#30  Edited By AbstractRaze

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@abstractraze: Yeah, I'm definitely coming up with that story. Couldn't care less if you think it's lazy or conformist when it's literally in the dialogue. You act like it's the first time. Saitama KO Garou with a hit thinking he's a mugger and that kind of force would kill a normal person. It's fictional and often play out for story. Saitama has always held back but he only uses as much strength as required for the story.

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Feats is all what matters, the collateral destruction was far greater than all other punches done by Saiatama against other strong monsters, including Orochi on his final form.

MangaStream's illegal website is the work of inept people and Beta wannabe Japanse fanboys that mistranslates scans.

That's what he said:

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The force implied against Rover, no matter how you see it, was far greater.

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#31  Edited By poeticwarrior

@necromancer76: I know. In the scan I posted, he explicitly stated he didn't even use a normal punch against Rover, but your scan also shows that he went easy on Rover. Rover didn't survive a punch against Saitama since he didn't even use a normal punch against it, and it's being stated twice.

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@poeticwarrior: I think he's trying to say that because of collateral damage he hit Rover harder than any other monster. This, however, is dumb. Kabuto took way more damage from a punch that had way less collateral damage compared to DSK but we all know Kabuto is much more durable than DSK.

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@necromancer76: I know. In the scan I posted, he explicitly stated he didn't even use a normal punch against Rover, but your scan also shows that he went easy on Rover. Rover didn't survive a punch against Saitama since he didn't even use a normal punch against it, and it's being stated twice.

Again, that does not matter, it's completely transcendental when he applies a force that caused far great destruction, that would have normally vaporized anyone.

That story not only is inauthentic but lazy, evidence is all what matters.

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#34  Edited By AbstractRaze

@gangorca: The shockwave stopped the raindrops, yet, there was no rain in the room where Kabuto fought against Saitama, you can't compare.

This was the punch against Rover and in the red circle is Rover and Rover is huge.

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#35 shirso  Online

It's just Psykos, or Psykorochi amped by God? He should definitely get stomped by the latter.

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#36  Edited By poeticwarrior

@shirso said:

It's just Psykos, or Psykorochi amped by God? He should definitely get stomped by the latter.

We tend to use the one in the picture, and the picture shown to be merged Psykos. I do find this thread to be a bit premature though since Golden Sperm is featless in Murata version and comparing ONE and Murata are tough since they have different feats sometimes. It's better to wait til Golden Sperm's debut in Murata before we could make judgment. After Tatsumaki's feats in Murata, so many people realize how powerful she actually is, so the redrawn could be even more impressive.

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@gangorca: The shockwave stopped the raindrops, yet, there was no rain in the room where Kabuto fought against Saitama, you can't compare.

This was the punch against Rover and in the red circle is Rover.

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I can since there wasn't even any damn shockwaves when he punched Kabuto. Saitama's punch against Marugori was visually less impressive than Marugori's own attacks, doesn't mean Marugori hits harder. Saitama's serious punch on Elder Centipede had less collateral damage than most of his normal punches but we know for certain they are stronger than any normal punch.

Rover is the black shape to the left btw, not the circle.

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#38  Edited By AbstractRaze

@gangorca said:
@abstractraze said:

@gangorca: The shockwave stopped the raindrops, yet, there was no rain in the room where Kabuto fought against Saitama, you can't compare.

This was the punch against Rover and in the red circle is Rover.

I can since there wasn't even any damn shockwaves when he punched Kabuto. Saitama's punch against Marugori was visually less impressive than Marugori's own attacks, doesn't mean Marugori hits harder. Saitama's serious punch on Elder Centipede had less collateral damage than most of his normal punches but we know for certain they are stronger than any normal punch.

Rover is the black shape to the left btw, not the circle.

There were some shockwaves when Saitama killed Kabuto, but it was less impressive, Rover is on another level in terms of durability, it's how it's, evidence is absolute and I uploaded another image where you can see Rover clearly, and Rover is huge.

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Rover not only survived, but when he woke up, he could scape at incredible speeds.

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#39  Edited By GangOrca

@abstractraze: Doesn’t mean he can survive a normal punch if Saitama wanted to kill him. He isn’t that strong and using collateral damage as evidence is faulty when it comes to Saitama. Nothing suggests Rover is “on another level” like Boros or Awakened Garou.

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#40  Edited By AbstractRaze

@gangorca: I can agree that if Saitama wanted to kill him, the amount of force would be even more insane.

I can agree that the term "Normal Punch" could be translated as a punch with the target to kill the individual, this probably implies that a normal punch against Rover would imply a more devasting punch.

Monster Garou assimilated even far greater blows from Saitama, Boros could get harm by lesser punches, but he can regenerate. Boros can also generate enough strength to kick the likes of Saitama to the moon, but not even Meteor Boross can keep up when talking about endurance than rather durability.

Both, Monster Garou and Rover are tougher than Boross, but again, Boross can regenerate, so there is a compensation.

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#41  Edited By GangOrca

@abstractraze: lol Rover is not tougher than Boros. You’re full of shit if you think there’s any compensation in that category. Stop wanking Rover, he didn’t even get hit with a real normal punch like Boros did.

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#42  Edited By AbstractRaze

@gangorca: It's evidence, inject yourself some brain cells. Meteor Boros could kick Saitama to the moon not primarely because how tough he's but because he moves fast and the faster moves an object, the more mass it gains, now, of course, he must have some sort of endurance, because Boros knee must endure the impact, no matter how much massive it becomes.

Rover's organic composition is way more dense and tough, now in your little primitive brain you think that such a thing gives Rover an edge over Boros, but Boros can generate more strength, he is way faster, he is more durable because he can regenerate and he has way greater amounts of energy projecting capabilities.

Only because Rover is tougher than even Meteor Boros, it does not mean that he could win, Boros pulverizes Rover.

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#44  Edited By GangOrca

@abstractraze: No. I meant you’re full of shit thinking Rover surviving a punch obviously not meant to kill makes him more durable than Boros. Don’t call me primitive when you’re the one using outdated translations.

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#46  Edited By AbstractRaze

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@abstractraze: lmao at praising Viz's translations

Viz is legal, and the mediocre shit expressing hate against such, are people that can't gather a couple of cents in order to continuously buy a comic book and if it's the case, it's all fine, not all people can spend in such things, but then resorting to illegal sites such as MangaStream where their translations are truly unprofessional and then with their inferior complexity express bullshit against Viz that does a more consistent job because there are professional people that studied the Japanese language. Now, it's not perfect, because even for a Japanese that speak perfect English, it's hard to translate the non-literal things into the English language.

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@zuriel-el said:

This is what happens when someone starts saying Saitamas normal punch is more powerful than Saitamas normal punch.

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