Poll Goku vs Tatsumaki and Psykos (48 votes)
This is saiyan saga BASE Goku(he can go up to Kaioken×2) against current Tatsumaki and Psykos. Both sides are In character, but will fight seriously. Who wins this? Speed is equalized.
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This is saiyan saga BASE Goku(he can go up to Kaioken×2) against current Tatsumaki and Psykos. Both sides are In character, but will fight seriously. Who wins this? Speed is equalized.
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@kemono_dono: Buu tho?🤔
She can't even perceive this Goku if their speed ain't equalized.
Buu literally went inside Vegito and tried to explode him by expanding inside, and Vegito said, "Nah."
any generic ki beam that goku would throw out would absolutely nuke their shields and could outright k.o them or attack from behind like krillen and gohan were about to do to guldo.
Two planet level characters vs multi continental to moon level
I think you've got it opposite there.
Honestly Tats and Psykos, should win this mid-diff, if tats can casual toss away continental level blast then she can probably handle his Ki blasts, which are only mountain level, and not only that but she can probably pin down goku with relative ease with her gravity manipulation which is beyond 300x gravity which he was struggling with 100x gravity in the Namek saga. And he has no answer for the shields which is not easy to break. And with speed equalize, I'm surprised people are highballing goku to this heights
This version of Goku would beat Saitama (based on current feats and scaling), let alone Pyskorochi and Tatsumaki.
This version of Goku would beat Saitama (based on current feats and scaling), let alone Pyskorochi and Tatsumaki.
Saitama scales way above of Boros who's moon+, he's at least planet level.
Honestly Tats and Psykos, should win this mid-diff, if tats can casual toss away continental level blast then she can probably handle his Ki blasts, which are only mountain level, and not only that but she can probably pin down goku with relative ease with her gravity manipulation which is beyond 300x gravity which he was struggling with 100x gravity in the Namek saga. And he has no answer for the shields which is not easy to break. And with speed equalize, I'm surprised people are highballing goku to this heights
322 PL Piccolo vaped a moon.
This guy is 8000....about 26x stronger....
Mountain level...
Two planet level characters vs multi continental to moon level
Lol?
@hydratedfubuki6: Piccolo himself was casually at least moon+ (higher actually) for vaping the moon, Goku in saiyan saga in just base is massively stronger than Raditz who in turn is massively stronger than the Piccolo that casually vaporized the moon. Goku on top of that can go kaiokenx2 multiplying his power and stats by x2. So Goku still stronger than Saitama.
@hydratedfubuki6: Piccolo himself was casually at least moon+ (higher actually) for vaping the moon, Goku in saiyan saga in just base is massively stronger than Raditz who in turn is massively stronger than the Piccolo that casually vaporized the moon. Goku on top of that can go kaiokenx2 multiplying his power and stats by x2. So Goku still stronger than Saitama.
He was pretty exhausted from that attack. It's casual in the sense that it wasn't a charged attack and he was weighted, I guess. But it wasn't casual for weighted Piccolo.
Anyhow, this Goku is indeed casually a moon buster.
@ssjbatdan: Honestly that moon blast that piccolo did in early dragon ball z is outliner like Master Roshi attack, because the moon just comes back without any explanations so... yeah
Power levels are BS so their so no arguing over that
And lasting yes mountain level regular ki blast, because I never seen a ki blast go beyond that level and besides they easily deflectable and non fighters like Elder kai can easily tank it so I don't see why tats and psykos can tank them from a weaker goku.
@ssjbatdan: Honestly that moon blast that piccolo did in early dragon ball z is outliner like Master Roshi attack, because the moon just comes back without any explanations so... yeah
Power levels are BS so their so no arguing over that
And lasting yes mountain level regular ki blast, because I never seen a ki blast go beyond that level and besides they easily deflectable and non fighters like Elder kai can easily tank it so I don't see why tats and psykos can tank them from a weaker goku.
No, it doesn't and no they aren't.
A non-charged ki blast from Piccolo vaped a moon. So yes, you've seen it. But you're just saying it's an outlier... There is a moon in the sky...it changes Gohan. Piccolo destroyed it. Perhaps they wished for the moon back in between years or Toriyama just forgot. It doesn't matter. No one is going to accept your lowball.
Nappa literally casually destroyed a country. He raised two fingers and it was gone.
@hydratedfubuki6: Piccolo himself was casually at least moon+ (higher actually) for vaping the moon, Goku in saiyan saga in just base is massively stronger than Raditz who in turn is massively stronger than the Piccolo that casually vaporized the moon. Goku on top of that can go kaiokenx2 multiplying his power and stats by x2. So Goku still stronger than Saitama.
The energy required to vaporize our moon is 5.654e+29 joules, multiply it by 49.69 you'll get 2.8094726e+31 (small planet). 49.69 is the difference of Piccolo's PL 322 and KK2 Goku PL 16000. Scaling to Piccolo shouldn't be a thing, we all know Vegeta's planet level and KK3 Goku is equal to him.
@ssjbatdan: A non-charged Ki blast? Really dude are you that serious it was clearly charged up ki blast, Piccolo in early dragon ball z is moon level at full power, he couldn't even tank an attack from raditz who destroy a mountain with his double sunday, I do consider the moon an outlier, because if piccolo really destroy the moon than the earth would have been destroy before vegeta and nappa arrived on earth, and they couldn't have bought it back because the dragon balls were gone when piccolo died so what do you mean. And lastly Nappa destroyed a city not a country.
@ssjbatdan: A non-charged Ki blast? Really dude are you that serious it was clearly charged up ki blast, Piccolo in early dragon ball z is moon level at full power, he couldn't even tank an attack from raditz who destroy a mountain with his double sunday, I do consider the moon an outlier, because if piccolo really destroy the moon than the earth would have been destroy before vegeta and nappa arrived on earth, and they couldn't have bought it back because the dragon balls were gone when piccolo died so what do you mean. And lastly Nappa destroyed a city not a country.
Everything you just said is wrong. Literally everything.
You mustn't have read the manga, either.
That's a friggin country.
@ssjbatdan: A non-charged Ki blast? Really dude are you that serious it was clearly charged up ki blast, Piccolo in early dragon ball z is moon level at full power, he couldn't even tank an attack from raditz who destroy a mountain with his double sunday, I do consider the moon an outlier, because if piccolo really destroy the moon than the earth would have been destroy before vegeta and nappa arrived on earth, and they couldn't have bought it back because the dragon balls were gone when piccolo died so what do you mean. And lastly Nappa destroyed a city not a country.
Everything you just said is wrong. Literally everything.
You mustn't have read the manga, either.
That's a friggin country.
What chapter is this?
@ssjbatdan: A non-charged Ki blast? Really dude are you that serious it was clearly charged up ki blast, Piccolo in early dragon ball z is moon level at full power, he couldn't even tank an attack from raditz who destroy a mountain with his double sunday, I do consider the moon an outlier, because if piccolo really destroy the moon than the earth would have been destroy before vegeta and nappa arrived on earth, and they couldn't have bought it back because the dragon balls were gone when piccolo died so what do you mean. And lastly Nappa destroyed a city not a country.
Everything you just said is wrong. Literally everything.
You mustn't have read the manga, either.
That's a friggin country.
What chapter is this?
Whichever one Nappa and Vegeta make it to Earth. I just read it the other day.
Yeah, I was like, "Wow, they seriously undersold that in the anime...."
One of the few times they go in reverse.
@ssjbatdan: Naw bruh, I everything I said is correct and you mad no counters to it so which means I win by default.
They show that every time for big explosions outside the earth, when in actuality it only leaves something small in portions.
@kasya_carey: Chapter 19 of Z: Day of Saiyans
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