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Stats equalised, who has the superior abilities to win here?

Both at their peak in there respective franchises.

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#3  Edited By SoulReaperRea

Those are amazing manga panels of Goku and Naruto, but Goku low diffs here

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Goku stomps

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Wow I've never seen this battle done before.

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Stats equalized?

Naruto stomps. Speed, strength, HP and destructive capacity being equal, Naruto has Shinobi hax that Goku can't match. Goku is too much of a straight-forward fighter.

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Naruto has more options than Goku's standard Ki blast and Martial arts. But I could see Goku pulling off a Insta Kamehameha, but I wonder if Naruto's pre cog would help him avoid it.

I will give to Goku since he is the better CQC fighter, and has Instant transmission which should help him bypass the equal speed.

Goku low diff with instant

Goku high diff without it

Still this has been done to death though

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TSO gg

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You need to be above Goku's stats to effectively battle UI. At equal, you're lunch.

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#12  Edited By rickythanos

@soulreaperrea: truth seeking balls, Frog Kumite, high-level summons, shadow clones both for deception and spamming haxxed Rasengan/Rasenshuriken

Goku without his strength and speed advantage would have an answer for literally none of these things, and the list can continue.

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#13 LimitBreaker1  Online

peak would mean baryon which means goku stomps, and not including baryon he still low diffs

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Goku blinks him and solos the fodder verse.

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@rickythanos: TSO only have a range of 70 meters so all Goku has to do is back up.

Goku has shown that he can fight against invisible attacks and can use air currents to fight blind, frog kumite is a non factor here.

"shadow clones both for deception and spamming haxxed Rasengan/Rasenshuriken"

Goku comes from a verse where fodders can create massive AOE attacks such as explosive wave in an instant and spam ki blast barrages.

And Goku can spam teleportation which also hard counters shadow clone spam:

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Naruto no longer has a chakra reserves advantage here, him trying to overwhelm Goku with a shadow clone rasen shuriken dogpile with end up with them hitting each other, or Goku just teleporting out of the way in both instances, and then taking out the clones with Aoe attacks. Either way it's going to be a waste of chakra for Naruto. CQC for Naruto is going to be a onesided beatdown too, he's not on Goku's level there either.

Any other abilities that Goku doesn't have an answer for?

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Wow another equal stats DB vs HST thread. How swell.

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Naruto, low-mid dif

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Goku crushes him with telekinesis or destroys him with hakai, goku is more haxed

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An equal stat match with goku winning!?!

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Goku blinks him and solos the fodder verse.

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Naruto doesn’t have answer to goku’s telekinesis

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Goku’s ki is the same power level, right? He should still have the same destructive power, which far exceeds Naruto’s abilities

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Naruto slaughters easy. DBZ biggest advantage is their stats since 90% of the fighters have the exact same moveset which would be stronger energy blast and just simply being faster and physically stronger than someone. Clones,Sound genjutsu,and sensing would be the end of Goku.

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@iphone12xl: Goku stomps. None of what you said holds any weight here.

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@ragegod said:

@iphone12xl: Goku stomps. None of what you said holds any weight here.

How is that so when stats are equalized? With stats equalized he can't do much of nothing here.

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@iphone12xl: Because UI is a skill that allows Goku to operate at higher levels of speed than someone of relatively equal stats? Example, using the technique in Base he could match Super Saiyan Vegeta's speed. As I said, you need higher stats to go up against UI effectively. At equal, you lose.

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@iphone12xl:

Because UI is a skill that allows Goku to operate at higher levels of speed than someone of relatively equal stats? Example, using the technique in Base he could match Super Saiyan Vegeta's speed. As I said, you need higher stats to go up against UI effectively. At equal, you lose.

Ok and Naruto Kurama chakra allows him to go up higher in stats as well not to mention he also has clones to aid him. and a Kurama avatar that Goku wouldn't be able to bypass. Also what is Goku answer to sound genjutsu?

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@iphone12xl:Naruto is already in top form for the match, so what amps are you talking about? Clones split up his chakra reserves, so he'd sacrificing power for numbers. Goku can easily bypass that avatar via Hakai. And genjutsu is irrelevant since energies aren't equalized. That one specifically takes too long anyway.

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If you look at his fight against granola even though granola was still stronger he was able to keep up and clash with him in his ssb form using ui. Non of granola's vital attacks worked. He reacted every attack on his vitals. Landed a couple of hits and he even made granola bleed. You have to be a good deal stronger than goku to make him having ui a mute point. Or his stamina and ui would need to be decreased to a significant point. With equal stats that's not happening. Naruto's not touching goku and if he manages to land anything he's not hurting goku. He's outskilled and out experienced by goku. Goku doesn't even need god bind or hakai but he has those available and he's got his own version of susanoo. Naruto's avatar would get stomped out by goku's.

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@ragegod said:

@iphone12xl:Naruto is already in top form for the match, so what amps are you talking about? Clones split up his chakra reserves, so he'd sacrificing power for numbers. Goku can easily bypass that avatar via Hakai. And genjutsu is irrelevant since energies aren't equalized. That one specifically takes too long anyway.

From what I've seen so far Naruto's clones are pretty much glass cannons aswell.

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@takenstew22: They are but somehow on CV they are treated like game changers

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@ragegod said:

@iphone12xl:Naruto is already in top form for the match, so what amps are you talking about? Clones split up his chakra reserves, so he'd sacrificing power for numbers. Goku can easily bypass that avatar via Hakai. And genjutsu is irrelevant since energies aren't equalized. That one specifically takes too long anyway.

Goku is also already in UI so the Thread means already in UI Goku vs Already Kurama cloak Naruto. You tried to act as if it was base Goku and Naruto in your last post which clearly isn't they case let's stay consistent here i see what your tried to pull. Naruto is still more skilled and has with clones he can strike from multiple angles pressuing Goku even more plus it was stated UI doesn't even work if Goku can't see the attack coming something along those lines. Also Naruto can still use BYM which would give him a huge statistical advantage.

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@ragegod said:

@iphone12xl:Naruto is already in top form for the match, so what amps are you talking about? Clones split up his chakra reserves, so he'd sacrificing power for numbers. Goku can easily bypass that avatar via Hakai. And genjutsu is irrelevant since energies aren't equalized. That one specifically takes too long anyway.

From what I've seen so far Naruto's clones are pretty much glass cannons aswell.

Not all of his clones are glass cannons his clones he used during the start of the war were taking hits and getting right back up.

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@takenstew22: They are but somehow on CV they are treated like game changers

Not all of his clones are glass cannons his clones he used during the start of the war were taking hits and getting right back up.

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First Goku will play with Naruto , then he'll say " that was a good fight, thanks ".

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Goku is also already in UI so the Thread means already in UI Goku vs Already Kurama cloak Naruto

Yes, and UI enables him to operate at higher levels of speed than his equal as I mentioned before.

You tried to act as if it was base Goku and Naruto in your last post which clearly isn't they case let's stay consistent here i see what your tried to pull

You lack reading comprehension. I gave you an example of UI at a lesser stage enabling Goku to match Vegeta's Super Saiyan speed in just his base form. I wasn't acting like that was the one being used in this match, hence me saying "example" genius.

Naruto is still more skilled and has with clones he can strike from multiple angles pressuing Goku even more

He's not, and clones are just a waste of chakra as they get ran through like a hot knife through butter regularly in canon.

plus it was stated UI doesn't even work if Goku can't see the attack coming something along those lines.

Never stated

Also Naruto can still use BYM which would give him a huge statistical advantage.

No he can't. He's at his peak right from the jump.

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Goku blinks him and solos the fodder verse.

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#42  Edited By iPhone12xL

@ragegod:

Yes, and UI enables him to operate at higher levels of speed than his equal as I mentioned before.

You clearly lack common sense. He said stats equal so Goku evolving to increase his speed via UI is completely pointless to mention that stats are equalized therefore UI is meaningless in terms of increasing speed so what are you talking about again? Plus Goku is already in UI in the pic above so your literally just talking nonsense now.

You lack reading comprehension. I gave you an example of UI at a lesser stage enabling Goku to match Vegeta's Super Saiyan speed in just his base form. I wasn't acting like that was the one being used in this match, hence me saying "example" genius.

Your ignoring the promise of the thread Goku isn't getting faster than Naruto period that's the entire purpose of saying stats equalized what don't you get about STATS BEING EQUALIZED!!!!!!!!!!

He's not, and clones are just a waste of chakra as they get ran through like a hot knife through butter regularly in canon. Never stated No he can't. He's at his peak right from the jump.

Clones are a waste of chakra nope and they never have they have always worked in battle and aided him against opponents who have better stats than him as it did with Neji who completely outclassed him. Worked on Sasuke multiple times who had the stat advantage against him in earlier fights. Clones have always been useful for Naruto stop talking nonsense. That doesn't look like BYM Naruto to me.

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@iphone12xl: Goku starts off in base form here, he doesn't have to use nor is he stuck in the MUI form.

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@didntask said:

@iphone12xl: Goku starts off in base form here, he doesn't have to use nor is he stuck in the MUI form.

No he doesn't he clearly says they both start at their peak so why would Goku be in base?

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peak goku? UI and Hakai + IT. Naruto gets curbstomped.

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But isn't Ki/Chakra Augmentation a technique? Why are they equals?

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#48  Edited By Omega737366

Goku fans should stop with this hakai GG , Goku does not use it in character and he only used it once against Zamasu for the fuck sake

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#49  Edited By TakenStew22
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Goku fans should stop with this hakai GG , Goku does not use it in character and he only used it once against Zamasu for the fuck sake

He also used it to turn a stone to dust to help Moro get up. But yes, he won't really do it in a combat scenario unless he's morals off or fighting an immortal character.

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If the stats are equalized, Naruto should win due to having more options to attack and being a more versatile fighter. Goku is a martial arts genius, but he seldom does anything that’s not super straightforward.