Goku vs Naruto, equalized stats

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#1  Edited By Amendment50
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All stats equalized (strength, DC, speed, durability): Goku's power is reduced, Naruto's is increased; they meet in the middle

In-character

Victory by KO or incap

Both have Chakra and Ki

No Truth Seeking Balls hax

Transformations do not increase stats

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Naruto is not used to having so much power and speed, so I would go with Goku, based on the experience of fighting at this level.

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These nerfs a ridiculous.

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Goku

Better fighter

Can absorb star level attacks

Has solar flare

Distructo disk

Kamehameha

Kiai

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#5  Edited By XioKenji

Naruto , his kit will do better tbh.

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Goku has better Taijutsu and beats Naruto in techniques/"Ninjutsu".

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Goku. Naruto can put up a fight with these conditions though.

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Naruto stomps. Stats equal means that Goku will get overwhelmed by clones.

@mortein said:

Naruto is not used to having so much power and speed, so I would go with Goku, based on the experience of fighting at this level.

This is called nitpicking.

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@mudamudamuda: you mean like how neji and sasuke were overwhelmed?

The clones get taken out with an aoe, or goku goes after the original.

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#10  Edited By MudaMudaMuda

@midnightdragon18 said:

@mudamudamuda: you mean like how neji and sasuke were overwhelmed?

The clones get taken out with an aoe, or goku goes after the original.

^ Implying that Neji and Sasuke had equal stats to Naruto.

Clones have Goku's stats + danger sensing, they will know when an Aoe is coming and use Kurama for protection. Goku has no way to tell who is the original lol

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@mudamudamuda: you mean like how neji and sasuke were overwhelmed?

The clones get taken out with an aoe, or goku goes after the original.

No , like how they dealt with pain. He'll just spawn more and more till he lands a rasengan

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@xiokenji: What is a kit? I think Goku wins some shadow clones will not change the outcome.

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@mudamudamuda: clones aren't as strong as the original, goku will notice everyone has lower ki expect for one. Also goku can still increase his stats with kiaoken. Kiaoken is a technique not a transformation.

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Naruto wins. Precog, chakra arms, and Frog Kata gives him much better versatility and combat.

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#16  Edited By Terrortuga

Naruto takes it with equal stats .

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#17  Edited By XioKenji

@omega_kai said:

@xiokenji: What is a kit? I think Goku wins some shadow clones will not change the outcome.

Shitloads of clones will change the outcome and a couple of sneaky rasengans will do the job. + Summons. He's simply more versatile than Goku.

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Naruto goku is too straight forward of a fighter but that's only cuz equalized stats other then that goku would stomp

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Goku is fighter. Its literally all he does and his entire life revolves arounds.. When he is not fighting someone he is training. He is a genius when it comes to the battle field. With powers equalized he takes this.

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#20  Edited By Omega_kai

No they won't Goku can just blow them all away with kiai, ki blast, or a kamehameha and when has Naruto ever pulled off a sneaky rasengan in a 1v1 fight.

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Goku is fighter. Its literally all he does and his entire life revolves arounds.. When he is not fighting someone he is training. He is a genius when it comes to the battle field. With powers equalized he takes this.

So you're implying Naruto isn't a fighter and his life isn't revolved around training and combat? Naruto is also a lot more cunning that Goku is, not to mention more versatile.

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Goku, the difference in skill and experience is ridiculous. This is like equalizing an average person's stats with Batman and expecting a fight. Especially when its been established in the dbz verse that having similar stats to someone means nothing and the one with more skill can and will wreck. Goku takes this 8/10 unless Naruto can develop an amazing strategy in the midst of Goku's continued attacks.

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@mudamudamuda: clones don't have equal stat to original.

They do the only thing they lack is durability.

@mudamudamuda: clones aren't as strong as the original, goku will notice everyone has lower ki expect for one. Also goku can still increase his stats with kiaoken. Kiaoken is a technique not a transformation.

That isn't true at all lol

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So Goku can increase his stats for a heart beat and wreck his body in exchange ? Good thinking, this makes victory even more assured for Naruto.

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#24  Edited By Raizell

Just post this scan in case it's needed.(It's not about scan above me)

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No they won't Goku can just blow them all away with kiai, ki blast, or a kamehameha and when has Naruto ever pulled off a sneaky rasengan I a 1v1 fight.

Whole pain arc ? They'll simply dodge , Goku is not blasting away 100's of clones with a single Kamehameha since it's linear/directional.

Goku has no omnidirectional blast IIRC and Naruto is not standing still while Goku goes for the clones.

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@xiokenji: Naruto had one fight in the pain arc and he was fighting and extremely weakened Tendo Pain when he pulled that off.

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#31  Edited By XioKenji

@precrisisbardock said:

@xiokenji: Naruto had one fight in the pain arc and he was fighting and extremely weakened Tendo Pain when he pulled that off.

He had 2 fights , vs the whole gang and vs Tendo pain and I don't recall him being weakened after getting wreckt around by KN6. and he pulled a sneaky rasengan on both. + He used it in the movies(not sure if pulled it in the last)

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#32  Edited By Omega_kai

@xiokenji: Goku does have omnidirectional blast and he can change the direction of his kamehameha really a Kiaoken blitz should be enough plus he has instant transmission. I would like to see scans of this sneaky rasegan.

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Something like this can work against clones maybe.

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@precrisisbardock: I agree Goku trains a lot more, but Naruto has trained his physical body and trained for techniques, and transformations. He started training from a younger age than Goku. But that wouldn't matter in a fight as quality>quantity. Naruto has gotten better training as of terms of skill.

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@xiokenji: It was explicitly stated Tendo was weakened after destroying the village, then again after using Planetary Devastation.

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@xiokenji: Goku does have omnidirectional blast and he can change the direction of his kamehameha really a Kiaoken blitz should be enough plus he has instant transmission. I would like to see scans of this sneaky rasegan.

Show me him pulling an omnidirectional blast and Naruto has Sage mode which is also not a transformation , but a technique.

On my phone , it happened in Pain's arc twice.

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#39  Edited By XioKenji

@raizel said:

Something like this can work against clones maybe.

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Pushing them ? sure , Killing them ? nope lol.

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@mudamudamuda: If you ever watched DBZ you would know.

This isn't even worthy of being called an argument.

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#41  Edited By PreCrisisBardock

@royrodgersmcfreely: Lolwut, Naruto started actually training at the age of like 12, same age as Goku when he entered his first tournament, and that training consisted of running up trees and marksman practice.

Goku training on his way to Namek >>>> All the training Naruto has ever done.

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#42  Edited By MudaMudaMuda

People trying to turn this into who trained more for some reason, by that logic Rock Lee should be the strongest person in Naruto verse.

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@precrisisbardock: Naruto started at the ninja academy at age like 5.

Yes I agree it was more intense than anything Naruto has done, but it was only physical training and in this battle that doesn't matter due to equal stats.

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#44  Edited By Omega_kai

@xiokenji: On my phone too lol what will sage mode do? Goku sensing capabilities are way better than Naruto's sage mode.

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Still not seeing how Goku's limited arsenal contends with Naruto .

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@royrodgersmcfreely: And at the academy he flunked 3 times and never trained.

It boosted his skill. Naruto always trains for a new Jutsu, Goku trains to improve himself.

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@mudamudamuda: Your right you clearly no nothing of DBZ if you didn't know Kiaoken has no effect on Goku's body anymore.

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People trying to turn this into who trained more for some reason, by that logic Rock Lee should be the strongest Person in Naruto verse.

Off-screen Guy trained the most -cough-

But it's stupid how this turned into a training debate.... since you know , someone who didn't train for a day was able to kill a bunch of Z-fighters and blowup a planet. Oh and for a month was able to wipe out earth and kill almost all Z fighters.(<---------DBZ logic)

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#50  Edited By newcomer

I think naruto could win if he tricks goku with extreme difficulty.