Goku vs Gilgamesh CCC

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#1  Edited By kurokoxyz789

This is current goku with latest feats vs gilgamesh with the horsehead nebula feat.

This is not as clear cut as most people think. Goku is the clear favor here but gilgamesh is also MFTL and has hacks that needs to be taken into account.

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Gilgamesh stomps, goku cant survive in space

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Looking at gilgamesh feats....he stomps hard.

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#4  Edited By alcoholbob

Z fighters don't have good feats vs magic. Gilgamesh has the world's largest collection of epic magic and conceptual weapons. If you are dumb enough to let Gilgamesh unload on you much stronger beings than Goku would get rekt.

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Looking at gilgamesh feats....he stomps hard.

What are Gilgamesh feats because I do not know the character?

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@terry2012: he has a treasury full of conceptual weapons. people say he has a weapon for every situation, but i wont go over what has not been displayed because that is a NLF. His strongest weapon is EA which basically destroys space and time around you and ignores durability in the physical sense. He has Gae Bolg which is a spear that reverses causality and pierces the target's heart but it does so before the weapon goes through your heart. So your heart is already pierced before the weapon is fired off basically. His speed feat is the horsehead nebula feat in Fate CCC in which he got fling to the horsehead nebula and come back to his master instantly which makes him MFTL.

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Well, EA is classified as an anti-world attack which made the foundation of Time and Space tremble, so I guess Gilgamesh takes this

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Just cause Dragon Ball Super came out, doesn't make Goku omnipotent.

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#9  Edited By MiracleComeBack

What is this? Goku farts and gilg dies

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Goku stomps HARD

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Whoever throws the first punch wins and with Gilgamesh's morals and Goku's speed i think the answer is quiet obviously Goku, Goku 7/10

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@terry2012: he has a treasury full of conceptual weapons. people say he has a weapon for every situation, but i wont go over what has not been displayed because that is a NLF. His strongest weapon is EA which basically destroys space and time around you and ignores durability in the physical sense. He has Gae Bolg which is a spear that reverses causality and pierces the target's heart but it does so before the weapon goes through your heart. So your heart is already pierced before the weapon is fired off basically. His speed feat is the horsehead nebula feat in Fate CCC in which he got fling to the horsehead nebula and come back to his master instantly which makes him MFTL.

Thank you. What does EA and CCC mean?

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Goku wins

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CCC Gil is like galaxy level and MFTL. He stomps.

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any dbz experts want to chime in?

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Just remember that even though Goku has raw power but anyone with decent Hax shitstomps him.

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#18  Edited By dawnone

Goku wins if he unleashes multi Galaxy attack on to giglemash face this is where speed becomes the deciding factor as if goku lands a single hit or attack on giglamashes it's over but they same can be said vice verse so the question is now does giglamashes have the speed to contend?.

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@dawnone: Yeah Gil is MFTL and he does not need to tag Goku to win, he can just use Gae Blog which is a spear that pierces the target's heart even before it is launched due to Casuality Manip.

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@parichithayerakala: ya but will a spear to the heart kill goku I mean he's endurance is pretty high up there and with the strength goku could simply break it after he pulled it out also how sharp is the spear would it be able to peirce goku?

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@dawnone: I think you have misunderstood me but the spear does not pierce in a literal way it has already pierced even before its thrown due to Casuality Manip i.e. The spear is not launched and is still in Gil's hand but Goku's heart already has hole in it. Its kinda like Reality Warping. Also Goku needs a heart to survive as shown when he is on death bed when he got a Heart Virus.

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@dawnone: I think you have misunderstood me but the spear does not pierce in a literal way it has already pierced even before its thrown due to Casuality Manip i.e. The spear is not launched and is still in Gil's hand but Goku's heart already has hole in it. Its kinda like Reality Warping. Also Goku needs a heart to survive as shown when he is on death bed when he got a Heart Virus.

I don't know who wins because I know nothing about Gilgamesh, but Goku showed regen when Beerus stabbed him in the heart.

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Just remember that even though Goku has raw power but anyone with decent Hax shitstomps him.

And what makes you say that ?

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gilgamesh from the anime?

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The only way you can beat Goku

A) your universal

B) you have hax and can react to mftl speed

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@randomsid: That was in his SSJG form, which he doeasnt have anymore, and if the RoF arc will be 100% faithful will not have any sort of Regan abilitys.

Evident when he was 1 shot by fodder. As it stands, either combatant could 1 shot the other, so this is kinda a stalemate, though I see Gil getting serious before goku.

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#28  Edited By RandomSid82

@randomsid: That was in his SSJG form, which he doeasnt have anymore, and if the RoF arc will be 100% faithful will not have any sort of Regan abilitys.

Evident when he was 1 shot by fodder. As it stands, either combatant could 1 shot the other, so this is kinda a stalemate, though I see Gil getting serious before goku.

It doesn't matter what form he was in. And you should know that the anime is NEVER faithful to the movies. The anime ALWAYS overwrites the movies. Just like in the Battle of the Gods movie he punched through King Kai's planet, but in the anime it was done with a Kamehameha.

But like I said before, I have no clue who would win because I know nothing about Gilgamesh(other than the one from the Final Fantasy series) but you can't rely on a stab to the heart to kill him when he has shown regeneration now.

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@randomsid:thats interesting. i was trying to find pics of where goku got stabbed and many people are saying he didn't actually got stabbed in the heart. It looks a bit too low to be the heart or maybe its just really bad animation.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/2/2d/Untitled5.1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151007061712

http://i.imgur.com/UCc6WdH.png

http://i.imgur.com/X1jvvle.png

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Just cause Dragon Ball Super came out, doesn't make Goku omnipotent.

He was stronger before anyway.

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@randomsid:thats interesting. i was trying to find pics of where goku got stabbed and many people are saying he didn't actually got stabbed in the heart. It looks a bit too low to be the heart or maybe its just really bad animation.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/2/2d/Untitled5.1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151007061712

http://i.imgur.com/UCc6WdH.png

http://i.imgur.com/X1jvvle.png

Probably just really bad animation. Being stabbed in the gut wouldn't have the effect that it had on him until he regenerated.

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@randomsid: regen means nothing in this fight, Gil has Space-Time warping, 100% HP on hit, and many more hax weapons.

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@kbm said:

@randomsid: regen means nothing in this fight, Gil has Space-Time warping, 100% HP on hit, and many more hax weapons.

I'm not saying it does, like I said before, I know next to nothing about Gilgamesh. My original comment was just that stabbing him in the heart wouldn't kill him.

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@randomsid: Goku uses kamehameha or any trump card, Gilgamesh uses fragarach ending the fight in a stalemate. Gilgamesh can also Gae Bolg, or Buidhe Goku. Hitting him in the heart and have thorns spread around his body(which ignores durability, as it has already hit when words are uttered,) thereby preventing any form of regen or just slashing his chest(or any part) with Buidhe. Which won't heal because his slashed chest will be his new state of being healthy. Not really sure about this, but if Gilgamesh can use Avalon as well, he can just sit and laugh as everything Goku throws at him doesn't harm him while he can just prepare Ea to destroy Goku's concept of reality. He can also restrain Goku with Enkidu. The more godly a being is, the stronger Enkidu gets.

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Warp Kamehameha

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@synchronized_123: Goku is too fast for it nd can it block a Multi Solar system leveller and can he even use it in time

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@precrisisbardock: why are people assuming goku is faster? Both are MFTL so we need actual numbers.

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@synchronized_123: Goku is too fast for it nd can it block a Multi Solar system leveller and can he even use it in time

I'm pretty sure you've misunderstood what Fragarach does if you think it can be dodged.

In any case. This is a terrible match up. DBZ outclasses in raw stats but have no answer to the conceptual and hax attacks that Fate implies. The debate will go no where.

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Goku has enough power to one shot him, and enough speed to attack first.

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Goku in character wouldn't blitz or one shot anyone, he usually sees how powerful his opponent is first. Also Gil doesn't have Avalon.

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Frieza Namek is mftl as the strongest(at the time) character in the Universe. Top tier DBS characters are starting to travel Universes in seconds and destroy multiple planets in their melee fights in instants. Their needs to be something higher than MFTL...7000x ftl isn't cutting it. MFTL is like attoseconds while top tier DB characters(Whis) reacts in planck time aka instant, literally instant. Goku isn't their yet but he's far beyond mftl.

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@alphapunk:

>Namek DBZ

>mftl

You'll make a great comedian.

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@kbm: Avalon is like a noble phantasm though. And Gil literally has almost everything in his GoB.

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The only sure fire way to bring down guys like Goku and not have to worry about a fight would be to possess Top Tier hax. Gil seems to possess this.

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