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Donquixote Doflamingo

  • Stats Equalized
  • Win by any means
  • Basic knowledge
  • In character
  • Start 100 ft away
  • Fight in Dressrosa
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gokus gets wiped

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#5  Edited By gelato_exotic

Goku still stomps effortlessly what is this lol. Doffy can't even lay a finger on him.

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Goku wins because of auto dodge of Ulta Instinct

I think Katakuri with equal stats would be more epic because of future sight

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#7  Edited By TheWatcherKing

What can Doflamingo do?

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#8  Edited By Wushu59

@thewatcherking said:

What can Katakuri do?

He has future vision / colors of observation haki precognition

So they will just be countering and dodging each other the whole time

Also has a wide variety of long range & close range attacks involving mochi

And Armament Haki which increases the potency and durability of his physical attacks

He only really to Luffy lost due to plot

One of the best animated anime fights ever

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@wushu59: I actually meant Doflamingo but thanks

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#10  Edited By Eredin12

Goku wins

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MUI Goku?

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#12  Edited By Wushu59

@thewatcherking said:

@wushu59: I actually meant Doflamingo but thanks

I haven't Dressrosa in awhile but he has powerful razor sharp strings that he controls with his finger tips that can slice through even mountain ranges and meteors

Can also control people like puppets with them and create shadow clones of himself made out of string

Can also fly with them and posses a variety of Haki including the rarest one known as Haoshoku Haki (Color of the Supreme King)

His awakened ability allows him to literally transmute his surrounding area and turn them into his strings

There might be some I'm missing.

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#13  Edited By gelato_exotic

@wushu59: I think Doffy's flying is kinda limited based on the weather (iirc he could use clouds) and the terrain isn't it

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@gelato_exotic:

He was shown flying pretty consistently

In both Punk Hazard and Dressrosa

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even with speed equlized doffy is still losing. he is no where near jiren level. Goku wipes him low diff

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#16  Edited By exauce

@ob1toe: Stats in general not just speed.

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@wushu59 said:
@thewatcherking said:

What can Katakuri do?

He has future vision / colors of observation haki precognition

So they will just be countering and dodging each other the whole time

Also has a wide variety of long range & close range attacks involving mochi

And Armament Haki which increases the potency and durability of his physical attacks

He only really to Luffy lost due to plot

One of the best animated anime fights ever

Good point, but wouldn't say he lost due to plot. I mean from watching the fight, it took effort to take him out.

But a limiting factor is Goku's ui timing out. As for the other guy, I don't know long the other guy could retain his haki's ability. In either case, he can't take too much time.

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@exauce: even with doffy having equal stats to goku I still dont see him winning. goku in ultra instinct is way above even a equal stats doffy's pay grade. Doffy doesnt have the attacks to damage Goku

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#19  Edited By Wushu59

@ps4gamerdude said:

He has future vision / colors of observation haki precognition

So they will just be countering and dodging each other the whole time

Also has a wide variety of long range & close range attacks involving mochi

And Armament Haki which increases the potency and durability of his physical attacks

He only really to Luffy lost due to plot

One of the best animated anime fights ever

Good point, but wouldn't say he lost due to plot. I mean from watching the fight, it took effort to take him out.

But a limiting factor is Goku's ui timing out. As for the other guy, I don't know long the other guy could retain his haki's ability. In either case, he can't take too much time.

He lost after losing his Future Sight and stabbing himself to equalize himself to Luffy

He clearly had the upper hand before that.

Even with Luffy's new transformation.

For that fight I could see Goku's UI timer run out, yeah

But this is about Doffy, not Kata

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@ob1toe:

even with doffy having equal stats to goku I still dont see him winning. goku in ultra instinct is way above even a equal stats doffy's pay grade. Doffy doesnt have the attacks to damage Goku

Not problem. Again Equal stats means Strength, speed, and durability are equalize/all the same for both fighter, so stats wise Goku can't be beyond him since it equalize it the same.

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goku has way more versatility with range and he'll be evading every string attack with MUI.

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@exauce: doffy having equal stats is wont even the match in his favour he doesnt have any attacks that would even stress goku. A bunch of powered up strings is not comparable to the planet busters goku fights daily as well as the experience he has with fighting.

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@ob1toe:

doffy having equal stats is wont even the match in his favour he doesnt have any attacks that would even stress goku.

Smh

A bunch of powered up strings is not comparable to the planet busters goku fights daily as well as the experience he has with fighting.

Again all that is EQUALIZE they are on the same lvl, what so hard to get about that?

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@exauce: goku beat jiren and beerus chracters who are stronger if not equal to him in stats doffy even with equal stats to goku is not winning he doesnt have the fighting expierence or vestility to beat goku

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Goku has good ranged attacks and won’t be tagged in a physical contest due to mui, he takes it

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@ob1toe:

Well Doffy is actually very versatile

And Jiren is not stronger then MUI Goku lol

I do think MUI wins him the fight though

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#27  Edited By gelato_exotic

Goku doesn't have a timer on UI anymore now. He completely mastered it. In the recent chapter he only dropped out of it because Moro literally beat it out of him and was sucking out all his energy.

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@ob1toe said:

@exauce: goku beat jiren and beerus chracters who are stronger if not equal to him in stats doffy even with equal stats to goku is not winning he doesnt have the fighting expierence or vestility to beat goku

Goku needed help to finish Jiren and when did he beat beerus? Which don't matter cuz it Equalize, his fighting experience and ability are just fight to beat Goku.

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Goku has better hand-to-hand combat,

a life devoted to it, and has basically mastered martial arts techniques.

Has afterimage,

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God Bind,

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Ki Bombs,

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Auto-dodge with MUI,

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Hakai,

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Kienzan Hexablade,

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etc.

Someone tell me what Doflamingo has and i'll come to a conclusion.

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@tomth31:

excellent work showing some of what Goku can do. No one on here ever remembers these details like tactics and abilities Goku and others showed, especially in DB Super.

I would like to point out that, that those Kiai attacks are sometimes even stronger in force than Ki blast. Like when Raditz tanked Piccolo ki blast without guarding or being moved. Yet we see the force of Kiai blow characters back like what Goku did to Jeice and Buta.

Off topic: another thing people overlook is DBZ has decent striking feats from the beginning of DBZ. Kid gohan can bust through a saiyan pod which can easily withstand the force of impact and leave large craters in the ground. This is around a couple hundred kilotons of force, nuke level physical striking. And characters get stronger from there. Like Zarbon Vs Vegeta fighting in the air, the shockwaves of their punches crumbled hills and cracked the islands below. Even stronger, Goku KKx10 kicked Freeza through two islands and the force of the kick caused all the islands in the area to shake. Even the island piccolo, gohan, and krillin are watching from to the point gohan and krillin can barely stand. This is easily within the range of multi-mountain to small country levels of striking force.

I'm putting together a thorough DBZ respect thread that's unbiased, not wanked, and brings out small details that are forgotten or overlooked.

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Goku. Doffy wouldn't be able to tag him.

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#33  Edited By gelato_exotic

@juzacloud:

I'm putting together a thorough DBZ respect thread that's unbiased, not wanked, and brings out small details that are forgotten or overlooked.

Does this RT contain the Z/GT continuity feats too or just Manga/Kai? If you don't mind there's a few overlooked feats I'd like to suggest (if you aren't already aware of them).

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Am I the only once not entirely impressed with UI?

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Does anybody know Doflamingo's techniques?

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#38  Edited By tomth31

Hakai negs durability so I'd say Goku, but I'm not sure since I don't know Doflamingo's techniques.

In character, Doflamingo is cocky and aggravates his opponents making them drop their guard.

However, this won't work, MUI Goku has auto-dodge, and even if he drops his guard he'll still dodge it.

Doflamingo possesses god complex, but he can eat the Devil Fruit.

But that would neg the point of the battle, because stats are equalized.

The devil fruit increases stats and abilities,

so in theory he would just get stronger than Goku by it.

But, Goku can just speed blitz him before he eats it and hakai him.

But if we're in character, Goku would probably let him eat it.

So i don't know.

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@tomth31: Doflamingo uses the Ito Ito no Mi, which allows him to manipulate strings which often can be invisible to the naked eye. He can use this to slash with razor-sharp strings, but he can also heal himself, manipulate others into doing what he wants, making a duplicate of himself, creating a massive shield, literally fly, and even turn his surroundings into strings for him to manipulate.

He also is capable of using all 3 forms of Haki.

  • Armament Haki can boost strength and durability over a certain area.
  • Conqueror's Haki can one shot someone with a weak willpower.
  • Observation Haki can allow Doffy to sense and dodge incoming attacks.

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Assuming overall stats are equalized and they're fighting basically only with skill and versatility I'd still back Goku 8/10.

Forget UI which blooms for like 5 minutes then literally breaks Goku, Instant Transmission is enough of a game changer that I think Doffy will lose. IT eliminates Bird Cage and gives Goku a means of fighting Doffy who is seriously agile.

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@tomth31 said:

Does anybody know Doflamingo's techniques?

Post #12

I explained a bunch of em

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@wushu59 said:

Goku wins because of auto dodge of Ulta Instinct

I think Katakuri with equal stats would be more epic because of future sight

Same. Then he at least has logia to deal with too. Ki shields should be enough to contend with Doflamingo's strings and the guy isn't recovering from a serious kamehameha equalized stats or no.

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Assuming overall stats are equalized and they're fighting basically only with skill and versatility I'd still back Goku 8/10.

Forget UI which blooms for like 5 minutes then literally breaks Goku, Instant Transmission is enough of a game changer that I think Doffy will lose. IT eliminates Bird Cage and gives Goku a means of fighting Doffy who is seriously agile.

That

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Doflamingo has a better cheat tool, but Goku is a better fighter. I don´t know who should win here tbh.

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Goku stomps by the looks of it

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By the looks of it I'm sticking with Goku.

Mainly because of auto dodge and him being able to dodge Doflamingo's string attacks which would render him useless.

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Goku low dif

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Doflamingo claps