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Where does he stop?
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@silentnightzs said:
Goku has trouble to lift a robot. He stops at 1
Yeah, goku runs, run away of this because it's too heavy. Akira Toriyama never put much thought into Physical Strength of Characters.
Stops at 1, until proof of the contrary.
@silentnightzs said:
Goku has trouble to lift a robot. He stops at 1
@silentnightzs said:
Goku has trouble to lift a robot. He stops at 1
@silentnightzs said:
Goku has trouble to lift a robot. He stops at 1
Goku pushed away a small mountain in the Buu Saga with his pure strenght, in just SS2, and in the DBS manga Vegeta casually tossed away a building with one hand, in base. I can see him passing the first three with scaling, but he stops at 4 probably. He passes the first one for sure.
Well Goku ranges from street level to multiverse level depending on the day.
Stops at 1 or clears.
: how tf do you post something which is contradicted in the same clip you are posting:
What is contradicted?
1. He was not in base. He was in SSB
No, he stood up in the base and only then turned SSB and used kamehameha
2. How is that a lifting feat? He didn't lift anything in the clip.
Because
He managed to stand up in singularity despite gravity pinning him down, meaning he overpowered that gravity of a black hole much stronger than any real one, so strong that not even IT could escape it while for real ones you only need FTL speed, that is why its lifting feat and ridiculous one that that
The characters of the rounds (when it is a character) they remain motionless or they move and attack or use their ability?, otherwise he will stop at least at 8.
574 galaxies is a bit too much I think.
So overpowering black hole so strong that not even IT could escape it in singularity and in the base is "terrible" ?
OT: Stops at 8,9
this
If the feat above is legit, then he goes until 8 or 9 as stated.
I mean its clear, not only was it confirmed to be a black hole, but more importantly, IT was unable to escape it, which is proof we needed off its ridiculous power( otherwise delusional DB lowballing club would just call it a weak black hole), yet he managed to overpower it in base
If the feat above is legit, then he goes until 8 or 9 as stated.
I mean its clear, not only was it confirmed to be a black hole, but more importantly, IT was unable to escape it, which is proof we needed off its ridiculous power( otherwise delusional DB lowball club would just call it a weak black hole), yet he clearly managed to overpower it in base
Yeah that's nice, I guess those heartly-warming-yee yee ass 'hair cut' characters were so annoying that I forgot about em
IT is instant teleportation that puts doubts on it being a actual black hole because he could teleport out easily
he could not, he tried and failed, in fact, he said himself that IT is useless against it
fact that this could stop something as fast as IT, which maybe has infinite speed as you noted shows just how ridiculously strong it is compared to actual black holes where you only need FTL speed to overpower its gravity, which is also further supported when it bends his SSB Kamehameha, not only does that does not put doubt on it being a black hole but it shows its one much stronger than any real one as well
@eredin12: I mean't he could if it was real no blackhole can be that strong as it doesn't make sense for blackholes so it doesn't count as a feat for him as it was something else
Fact that no real black hole can be this strong menas that this does not count as a feat for him? That is just idiotic, that just menas its much better feat than if it was a normal black hole, you see this was a black hole, just one much stronger than any real one, makes snese since its used against universal beings, as you yourself note here no real black hole can be that strong which means Goku overpowered one lot stronger than any real one, that does not mean its not feat for him, that just menas its much better feat than if it was any real black hole
Not sure are you familiar with the Dies Irae series, there, for example, Hadou gods can make multiversal level black holes and use them in combat, tanking them does not mean its not a feat for you since no real black hole is nearly that strong, it just means its much better feat than if you tanked real much weaker black hole, same is here, that is the point, hence why this feat is so good
This is just a low IQ level argument to say at least, first, it does work like a black hole remember "Not even light can escape" " high mass creates strong gravity" and it was called a black hole as well, its just that its much stronger than any real one, like MUCH stronger, hence why escape velocity is that high, escape velocity is a direct result of its gravity, in fact, this was literally shown to have much strogner gravity than any normal black hole that cannot prevent even FTL speed from escaping, which is what matters, trying to use the fact that its gravity is much stronger than that in any real black hole, something you yourself admitted as an argument that Goku overpowering siad gravity does not count, is just room temperature level IQ argument no offense but its truth, i even explained it with Hadou gods analogy
@eredin12: nope it is literally impossible in black hole physics even the singularity would be escapable with infinite speed and it has infinite density
Maybe this is fiction, ever thought abotu that? Hence why small, multiversal black holes are a thing, once agian fact that this has stronger gravity and bigger mass than any real black hole means that overpowering that stronger gravity is better than if you overpowered weaker one that is in normal black holes, and at this point, i am done, i think there is no point in wasting to much time on delusional DB lowballing club
: It had an event horizon but no singularity.
They were at the center of it, that is pretty much singularity, eaither way what i mean is its strongest there, at the center which is where they were located
IT likely failed because of warped space or other spacetime effects black holes cause.
That is not backed really, FTL speed can allow you to escape from any real black hole, nothing it has can prevent that, it can't stop that yet this one could, its ridiculously strong gravity is what stopped this, its also why it was bending SSB Kamehameha, hell this black hole did not even warp space really, Toppos Hakai did, but not this black hole, space around it or on it( as we saw) was no in way warped, so it can only be its gravity inside that did this
If you try to say IT lacked the speed to escape then his kamehameha should be faster than IT which is certainly not the case.
Not necessarily faster, just that strong, its power/ force is what allowed it to overpower its gravity and destroy black hole, although if we say that IT does not have infinite speed( argumnet can be made) just that is fast enough to travel across the universe in seconds then you can argue that this Kamehameha is indeed faster as well
@eredin12: It had an event horizon but no singularity. IT likely failed because of warped space or other spacetime effects black holes cause. If you try to say IT lacked the speed to escape then his kamehameha should be faster than IT which is certainly not the case.
I have no comment on the nature of the Black Hole discussion or what it was, but out of curiosity what's the basis for Goku's Kamehameha not being able to be faster than IT?
@silentnightzs said:
Goku has trouble to lift a robot. He stops at 1
@silentnightzs said:
Goku has trouble to lift a robot. He stops at 1
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