Goku and Vegeta vs Jiren

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Current versions

who wins

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Team if UI is involved

Vegeta is a non factor

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#3  Edited By omriamar

Jiren. Vegeta is a pure fodder and goku UI is stil very limited in many ways he needs more time to control it.

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Current Goku already lost to Jiren in a form beyond anything Vegeta has ever displayed. Jiren wins fairly easily. Now if Goku and Vegeta could access potara earrings, they might change the flow of this as Vegito, but there is no guarantee Vegito could replicate Ultra Instinct.

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Jiren. Goku hasn't mastered UI yet and he can't seem to maintain that state for lengthy periods of time.

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Jiren. Goku hasn't mastered UI yet and he can't seem to maintain that state for lengthy periods of time.

Sucks it would probaly be march or april by the time he masters it

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@cromulor said:

Current Goku already lost to Jiren in a form beyond anything Vegeta has ever displayed. Jiren wins fairly easily. Now if Goku and Vegeta could access potara earrings, they might change the flow of this as Vegito, but there is no guarantee Vegito could replicate Ultra Instinct.

He didnt master it and it ran out the moment jiren blocked his punch so he hasnt been beaten in the form yet

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Fusion plus UI= Jirens done for.

So jiren wins

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Fusion is their only hope even with ui Jiren didn't seem worried

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Fusion allowed ? Vegito/Gogeta wins .

No Fusions ? It feels strange to say this , but Vegeta is fodder here . Right now he is not even close to current Goku or Jiren . Ssb Vegeta < ssb Goku <<< SSBx10 Goku << SSBx20 Goku <<<< UI Goku < Jiren .

Jiren wins .

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#13  Edited By Supermanforever

@supergoku17: Still Jiren i think. Vegeta wont even trouble Jiren. UI Goku gives a fight but still Jiren imo

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@supergoku17: If that’s what we’re going with, then Kefla has a better feat than Jiren for tagging Goku multiple times during Ultra Instinct.

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@supergoku17: Still Jiren i think. Vegeta wont even trouble Jiren. UI Goku gives a fight but still Jiren imo

Thx for your opinion

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Jiren.

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Jiren smacks them around, even with UI Jiren didn't seem too bothered.

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@mainjp: Jiren was slowly pushed back by UI when Goku had like 0 stamina. We have not seen UI Goku with full stamina. Nor Jiren's full power though.

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Nor Jiren's full power though.

That's what I'm saying though, Jiren didn't look like he was going all out and even with Goku charging at him near the end he just stood there.

True about Goku's stamina.

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Oh. Goku and Vegito win then . But only by fusing .

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if they fuse the stomp poor jiren.

Kefla which is a fusion between SSj2 Caulifla and a SSj3 similar Power Kale was alreayd similar to UI goku

now SSJB vegeta Fused with SSJB goku is obvious gonna be 2-3 tiers higher than Kefla, he would completely obliterate Jiren

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Jiren.

Only way Goku and Vegeta are winning is if Vegeta learns the attacking aspect of UI like Goku has learned the defensive aspect and they fuse to put it together to created fully mastered UI Vegito/Gogeta (which is exactly what is gonna happen on the show I believe)

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#25  Edited By Straja

@sophisticated_ignorance: you saw that red exploding aura in intro where goku smiles? That is attacking ultra instict i think...

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Maybe in a few weeks this might change, but for now Jiren still wins.

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#30  Edited By RR79

I have a feeling that after the next episode my answer may change.

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Lol team stomps. UI Goku = Jiren and royal blue >= GoD

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Lol team stomps. UI Goku = Jiren and royal blue >= GoD

based of what exactly

also its not called royal blue

also jiren is stronger then UI omen goku

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With UI Goku team has a chance. Vegeta is no means fodder anymore and UI Goku <= Jiren.

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It looks as if UI Goku is barely below Jiren meaning Mastered Ul is likely going to be above him by a fair margin.

So UI Goku + ASSJB Vegeta would probably lose

But MUI Goku solos

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Goku solos

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#38  Edited By Royal_Warrior

@chad_duby: nope Goku is currently fodderizing him

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#43  Edited By alextheboss

@royal_warrior: Jiren is still holding back.

In the next episode preview you can see Goku is forced to go to another level (mastered UI) to win.

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Goku just beat jiren.

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In the latest episode, Goku with mid-difficulty defeated Jiren.

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Yeah, Goku straight fodderized GoD level Jiren, who then passed his limits.