VS
- Random Encounter
- Standard gear
- Starting Distance 20 meters
- In-character
- Assume perfect team work
- Luffy starts in G4
- Win by death or Incap/KO
Molecular destruction, Gaara's sand tsunami or Mei's acidic air can pretty much one shot them but on the same time Law can just room them all and Kizaru can blitz them all.
The One Piece team should win quite easily: Kizaru being made of light and being able to reform his body means only esoteric attacks will be effective against him. If he creates a light-path successfully then the Gokage are getting blitzed, additionally he can spam blasts of this scale:
Mei and Tsunade would get one-shotted by AoE of this scale, with the Raikage's speed he could perhaps avoid it but that isn't likely, Gaara's sand also might be able to block him from this destructive blast but again, Kizaru doesn't have the disadvantage of needing chakra: he can spam attacks of this level for as long as he pleases, this is doubly worse for the Naruto team when you take into consideration the fact that One Piece characters on Kizaru's level can fight for 10 days without rest
To continue with Kizaru, he can use his lasers for piercing purposes for a more surgical and precise offense and he can make a light-sword for close quarter combat. The only person who can deal with him is Oniki with his particle but that man is far too slow and Kizaru would have no issues obliterating him.
Moving on: Whitebeard, while injured, sick and over 70 years old, split an island in half, he has created mountain sized tsunami's and shifted the ocean for miles around. His Quakes would be devastating against the Gokage as I really don't see them escaping this level of AoE at all
Big Mom: She was strong enough to casually block a Kong Gun from Luffy, to give this some gravity: Doflamingo (while injured but still cocky and in a state ready to fight) got overpowered by Luffy's Kong Gun and sent flying to another part of the city - Doffy has easily blocked Sanji's kicks, one of which broke the neck of a Pacifista, an android more durable than Franky who took this level of an explosion.
She can also suck the souls/life-span out of the people she touches and, this is the crutch- she can drain stamina too as shown when Luffy's energy left him and he reverted from G4 to base form after clashing with Big Mom. Physical vitality is one of the requirements to produce chakra so Big Mom's ability here can act as kyptonite to the Gokage. But that isn't where her abilities end: she has tanked a huge lightning bolt and what really makes this thread a flat-out stomp in my opinion is Prometheus and Zeus: a huge ball of fire and a storm cloud respectively. They are elements imbued with Mama's soul and can't be combated by traditional means: Prometheus has AoE that can roast a colossal amount of land as seen here and Zeus' lightning has made a crater capable of comfortably fitting Big Mom in, and she's...not a small person to put it lightly. In the link we see her towering over Brook. Brook is almost 9 feet tall.
Luffy: Yeah the Raikage is screwed against him. Luffy is highly resistant/ immune to lightning: 100,000,000 volts did nothing to him, his body is rubber and doesn't conduct electricity. What is more is he is highly resistant/ immune to blunt force damage- pre-time skip he took an island splitting punch with no damage, currently he is more durable and can increase said durability exponentially with Haki. The Raikage being the fastest on his team means little when Luffy has the speed feats to easily keep up and the damage output to wreck him
If overkill had a name it would be Trafalgar Law whom team Naruto have no answer for, he can and has:
So in short:
One Piece team stomps hard.
The only factor in this match i see is Ohnoki an Gaara. The other Kage are more Support.
But against:
Kizaru? He is much faster then every Kage, also he can´t hurt by them.
Whitebeard and Big Mom? Even al Gokage together and they have a hard fight against one of them.
Luffy and Law? Gokage have a hard fight, but the chances for a victory are higher then against Admiral and Yonko. Law hat some Hax who should be a big Problem and Luffy have a hughe Power.
At least, Team One Piece stomps.
Technically Kizaru is comprised of photons, which are dimensionless (and can be smaller than atoms) so he wouldn't be affected by Ohnoki's Dust release. Being the only threat offense wise, without him in the equation the Pirates sweep.
Team One Piece, Big Mom alone is enough to handle most of the Kage team if not all
Oonoki vapes them all with particle style
Ohnoki dies. He can't even win 1 on 1 against anyone on Team 2 yet you think he solos?
One Piece team wins. Big mom, alone, can handle most of the enemy team. This fight would be more even if the emperors were removed.
has there been a battle thread with Naruto and/or One Piece where everyone doesn't think it's a complete stomp?
Sadly Kizaru can potentially solo. Genjutsu or particle style is only option against him (or large masses of water created with jutsu which has been debunked for unknown reasons on OP vs Naruto threads multiple times.)
Full OP team stomps.
"Gokage" lul but anyways.
One Piece team stomps hard.
@skysanji: I agree OP team wins but how is that Elbaf spear island level? It just went through King Baum and out through the seducing woods into the ocean? Sure it has attack potency and range but it isn’t “island level”
@back_stabbath95: Well if you scale Big Mom to the Giants which she was ragdolling and put into fear as a child they can cut a hole into a creature who swallow islands whole so yeah not in Dc but in attack potency:
Rofl island level Elbaf spear.
No one on the OP Team solo's since every single one of them is a df user and Mei can drown any of them.
They do shit stomp as a team though.
@skysanji: Show me a scan of Big Mom destroying anything even remotely close to an island with Elbaf Spear
"Also the water has to be still or standing" Ok, what's your point? Mei drowns any of them 1v1
Nice edit of your comment, because its totally in character for them to target Mei in particular and blitz her instantly.
@skysanji:Show me a scan of Big Mom destroying anything even remotely close to an island with Elbaf Spear
Don't tell you are inept at reading as well I clearly said not in Dc but in attack potency in post #24
"Also the water has to be still or standing" Ok, what's your point? Mei drowns any of them 1v1
If the water isn't still then it won't immobilized them I showed you the scan of Luffy being completely submerged in water and he was still able to move
Oda even say's this in a Sbs
@skysanji said:
@skysanji:Show me a scan of Big Mom destroying anything even remotely close to an island with Elbaf Spear
Don't tell you are inept at reading as well I clearly said not in Dc but in attack potency in post #24
What feats does she have that puts her attack potency at island level?
"Also the water has to be still or standing" Ok, what's your point? Mei drowns any of them 1v1
If the water isn't still then it won't immobilized them I showed you the scan of Luffy being completely submerged in water and he was still able to move
"Completely submerged" He's slightly covered in water, you're joking right?
Perfect teamwork, Ohnoki creates an enclosure around the target and then Mei drowns them, problem solved.
@skysanji said:
@skysanji:Show me a scan of Big Mom destroying anything even remotely close to an island with Elbaf Spear
Don't tell you are inept at reading as well I clearly said not in Dc but in attack potency in post #24
What feats does she have that puts her attack potency at island level?
I went over this in post #24 already I'm not gonna spoon feed you go reread....
"Also the water has to be still or standing" Ok, what's your point? Mei drowns any of them 1v1
If the water isn't still then it won't immobilized them I showed you the scan of Luffy being completely submerged in water and he was still able to move
"Completely submerged" He's slightly covered in water, you're joking right?
Tf!? His entire body is submerged in water are you blind now?
He is clearly submerged
@skysanji said:
@skysanji said:
@skysanji:Show me a scan of Big Mom destroying anything even remotely close to an island with Elbaf Spear
Don't tell you are inept at reading as well I clearly said not in Dc but in attack potency in post #24
What feats does she have that puts her attack potency at island level?
I went over this in post #24 already I'm not gonna spoon feed you go reread....
So you're telling me she has absolutely 0 feats that put her attack potency at Island level? Ok thanks, was just confirming that you were wanking again.
"Also the water has to be still or standing" Ok, what's your point? Mei drowns any of them 1v1
If the water isn't still then it won't immobilized them I showed you the scan of Luffy being completely submerged in water and he was still able to move
"Completely submerged" He's slightly covered in water, you're joking right?
Tf!? His entire body is submerged in water are you blind now?
What's your point? He's submerged in the water for a couple of seconds, you expect him to drown in that period of time?
Perfect teamwork, Ohnoki creates an enclosure around the target and then Mei drowns them, problem solved.
Before or after getting blitzed? Also again if it's not still or standing water it won't affect df users which is supported by Oda in a Sbs....
@skysanji said:
Perfect teamwork, Ohnoki creates an enclosure around the target and then Mei drowns them, problem solved.
Before or after getting blitzed? Also again if it's not still or standing water it won't affect df users which is supported by Oda in a Sbs....
Again it's not in character for anyone on the OP team to blitz nor do they have any knowledge so you suggesting they'll target Mei is comical.
If Ohnoki creates an enclosure around them then the water becomes still.
So you're telling me she has absolutely 0 feats that put her attack potency at Island level? Ok thanks, was just confirming that you were wanking again.
So you can't read? Not even a little bit if what I posted on Post #24? Ok thanks, was just confirming another thing you are inept at.....
What's your point? He's submerged in the water for a couple of seconds, you expect him to drown in that period of time?
Why not? Anytime we see Luffy enter still or standing water he immediately starts to drown....
But that doesn't apply here since Mei doesn't have the ability to create still or standing water
Also it's not that they drown it's that the sea hates them and they become immobile essentially drowning themselves
Something Luffy isn't showing us signs in, in those scans
@skysanji said:
So you're telling me she has absolutely 0 feats that put her attack potency at Island level? Ok thanks, was just confirming that you were wanking again.
So you can't read? Not even a little bit if what I posted on Post #24? Ok thanks, was just confirming another thing you are inept at.....
I read and watched the video, nothing you posted in #24 puts her attack potency at island level.
What's your point? He's submerged in the water for a couple of seconds, you expect him to drown in that period of time?
Why not? Anytime we see Luffy enter still or standing water he immediately starts to drown....
Erm no, he starts losing energy and his ability to move, which we can't tell if that was the case in the scan you showed because Luffy isn't visible.
But that doesn't apply here since Mei doesn't have the ability to create still or standing water
Also it's not that they drown it's that the sea hates them and they become immobile
Gotta love that you're ignoring my post because you can't counter it at all. Ohnoki creates an enclosure with earth style and Mei fills it with water effectively drowning them in still water.
Again, no one in the OP team is soloing but as a team they do shitstomp.
@skysanji said:
Perfect teamwork, Ohnoki creates an enclosure around the target and then Mei drowns them, problem solved.
Before or after getting blitzed? Also again if it's not still or standing water it won't affect df users which is supported by Oda in a Sbs....
Again it's not in character for anyone on the OP team to blitz nor do they have any knowledge so you suggesting they'll target Mei is comical.
It's not in character for Luffy or Kizaru to blitz? Especially Luffy?
Also what does it matter since no one here us fast enough to react they are all statues so They get picked off one by one
If Ohnoki creates an enclosure around them then the water becomes still.
This is irrelevant seeing how they all get blitzed by any if the pirates but I'll look into this one
@skysanji said:
@skysanji said:
Perfect teamwork, Ohnoki creates an enclosure around the target and then Mei drowns them, problem solved.
Before or after getting blitzed? Also again if it's not still or standing water it won't affect df users which is supported by Oda in a Sbs....
Again it's not in character for anyone on the OP team to blitz nor do they have any knowledge so you suggesting they'll target Mei is comical.
It's not in character for Luffy or Kizaru to blitz? Especially Luffy?
No it's not, Kizaru's more likely to stand still and let their attacks hit him than he is to blitz
Also what does it matter since no one here us fast enough to react they are all statues so They get picked off one by one
They're statues? That's hilarious, No one on the OP team is that much faster than them
If Ohnoki creates an enclosure around them then the water becomes still.
This is irrelevant seeing how they all get blitzed by any if the pirates but I'll look into this one
I'm arguing none of them Solo, no one on the OP team is going to blitz in character.
@skysanji said:
Perfect teamwork, Ohnoki creates an enclosure around the target and then Mei drowns them, problem solved.
Before or after getting blitzed? Also again if it's not still or standing water it won't affect df users which is supported by Oda in a Sbs....
Again it's not in character for anyone on the OP team to blitz nor do they have any knowledge so you suggesting they'll target Mei is comical.
If Ohnoki creates an enclosure around them then the water becomes still.
@skysanji said:
So you're telling me she has absolutely 0 feats that put her attack potency at Island level? Ok thanks, was just confirming that you were wanking again.
So you can't read? Not even a little bit if what I posted on Post #24? Ok thanks, was just confirming another thing you are inept at.....
I read and watched the video, nothing you posted in #24 puts her attack potency at island level.
What's your point? He's submerged in the water for a couple of seconds, you expect him to drown in that period of time?
Why not? Anytime we see Luffy enter still or standing water he immediately starts to drown....
Erm no, he starts losing energy and his ability to move, which we can't tell if that was the case in the scan you showed because Luffy isn't visible.
But the Log he is holding is meaning he still has his strength and isn't immobile:
But that doesn't apply here since Mei doesn't have the ability to create still or standing water
Also it's not that they drown it's that the sea hates them and they become immobile
Gotta love that you're ignoring my post because you can't counter it at all. Ohnoki creates an enclosure with earth style and Mei fills it with water effectively drowning them in still water.
Gotta love how you yourself say they have no knowledge but give them knowledge on the df users weakness ???
@skysanji said:
Perfect teamwork, Ohnoki creates an enclosure around the target and then Mei drowns them, problem solved.
Before or after getting blitzed? Also again if it's not still or standing water it won't affect df users which is supported by Oda in a Sbs....
Again it's not in character for anyone on the OP team to blitz nor do they have any knowledge so you suggesting they'll target Mei is comical.
If Ohnoki creates an enclosure around them then the water becomes still.
It's historical
Anyway they get blitzed before that happens I'm still looking into debunking that...
Again, no one in the OP team is soloing but as a team they do shitstomp.
ANY OF THEM SOLO
@skysanji said:
Perfect teamwork, Ohnoki creates an enclosure around the target and then Mei drowns them, problem solved.
Before or after getting blitzed? Also again if it's not still or standing water it won't affect df users which is supported by Oda in a Sbs....
Again it's not in character for anyone on the OP team to blitz nor do they have any knowledge so you suggesting they'll target Mei is comical.
If Ohnoki creates an enclosure around them then the water becomes still.
@skysanji said:
So you're telling me she has absolutely 0 feats that put her attack potency at Island level? Ok thanks, was just confirming that you were wanking again.
So you can't read? Not even a little bit if what I posted on Post #24? Ok thanks, was just confirming another thing you are inept at.....
I read and watched the video, nothing you posted in #24 puts her attack potency at island level.
What's your point? He's submerged in the water for a couple of seconds, you expect him to drown in that period of time?
Why not? Anytime we see Luffy enter still or standing water he immediately starts to drown....
Erm no, he starts losing energy and his ability to move, which we can't tell if that was the case in the scan you showed because Luffy isn't visible.
But the Log he is holding is meaning he still has his strength and isn't immobile:
"Starts losing energy and ability to move" Who's reading comprehension is lacking now?
But that doesn't apply here since Mei doesn't have the ability to create still or standing water
Also it's not that they drown it's that the sea hates them and they become immobile
Gotta love that you're ignoring my post because you can't counter it at all. Ohnoki creates an enclosure with earth style and Mei fills it with water effectively drowning them in still water.
Gotta love how you yourself say they have no knowledge but give them knowledge on the df users weakness ???
No, it's in character for Mei to instantly use water style, she literally did straight away against Madara
@limitlesssigil said:@skysanji said:
Perfect teamwork, Ohnoki creates an enclosure around the target and then Mei drowns them, problem solved.
Before or after getting blitzed? Also again if it's not still or standing water it won't affect df users which is supported by Oda in a Sbs....
Again it's not in character for anyone on the OP team to blitz nor do they have any knowledge so you suggesting they'll target Mei is comical.
If Ohnoki creates an enclosure around them then the water becomes still.
It's historical
Anyway they get blitzed before that happens I'm still looking into debunking that...
You've yet to prove they'll blitz instantly, take your time I know it's impossible for you to prove.
Again, no one in the OP team is soloing but as a team they do shitstomp.
ANY OF THEM SOLO
None of them Solo
They're statues? That's hilarious, No one on the OP team is that much faster than them
The same Luffy who kicked Lightning Pre timeskip without any gears, later gets gear second and is still a statue to the Admirals then Post timeskip didges an explosion that is on him while in base later get blitzed by Doflamingo while in Gear Second, Oh yeah that's certainly not fast enough to blitz the team who has only one lightning timer, which Luffy by himself has already surpassed PTS.....
I'm arguing none of them Solo, no one on the OP team is going to blitz in character.
Luffy by himself blitzes in character.....
@skysanji said:
They're statues? That's hilarious, No one on the OP team is that much faster than them
The same Luffy who kicked Lightning Pre timeskip without any gears, later gets gear second and is still a statue to the Admirals then Post timeskip didges an explosion that is on him while in base later get blitzed by Doflamingo while in Gear Second, Oh yeah that's certainly not fast enough to blitz the team who has only one lightning timer, which Luffy by himself has already surpassed PTS.....
For someone who dislikes calculations for Bleach you sure love them when its OP
I'm arguing none of them Solo, no one on the OP team is going to blitz in character.
Luffy by himself blitzes in character.....
Except he doesn't, the only time he blitzed in G4 was against Doffy and he was enraged during that fight. Even if I agree that Luffy will blitz that's still a far cry from all of them Soloing.
No, it's in character for Mei to instantly use water style, she literally did straight away against Madara
That's is NOT what you said you said:
@skysanji said:
Perfect teamwork, Ohnoki creates an enclosure around the target and then Mei drowns them, problem solved.
Before or after getting blitzed? Also again if it's not still or standing water it won't affect df users which is supported by Oda in a Sbs....
Again it's not in character for anyone on the OP team to blitz nor do they have any knowledge so you suggesting they'll target Mei is comical.
If Ohnoki creates an enclosure around them then the water becomes still.
So yes you gave them knowledge you even gave them a combo attack that they've never used
And what you just said about Mei using Water style in character is useless since the water has to be still....
You've yet to prove they'll blitz instantly, take your time I know it's impossible for you to prove.
Hey your the one who is incapable of reading I went over this already in post #42
ANY OF THE PIRATES SOLO
Everyone on the OP can solo.
@skysanji said:
No, it's in character for Mei to instantly use water style, she literally did straight away against Madara
That's is NOT what you said you said:
@skysanji said:
Perfect teamwork, Ohnoki creates an enclosure around the target and then Mei drowns them, problem solved.
Before or after getting blitzed? Also again if it's not still or standing water it won't affect df users which is supported by Oda in a Sbs....
Again it's not in character for anyone on the OP team to blitz nor do they have any knowledge so you suggesting they'll target Mei is comical.
If Ohnoki creates an enclosure around them then the water becomes still.
So yes you gave them knowledge you even gave them a combo attack that they've never used
Do the words perfect teamwork mean nothing to you? They'll create combo's they never used before.
And what you just said about Mei using Water style in character is useless since the water has to be still....
I've already gone over this, the water will become still once it's movement is stopped.
You've yet to prove they'll blitz instantly, take your time I know it's impossible for you to prove.
Hey your the one who is incapable of reading I went over this already in post #42
You didn't prove anything in post 42 wtf
Apparently Law solo's, the same Guy who was being bitch slapped by Doffy is going to Solo. OP wank is only going to get worse as the series comes closer to its conclusion.
Island level Elbaf spear
Moon level King Kong Gun inbound
@skysanji said:
They're statues? That's hilarious, No one on the OP team is that much faster than them
The same Luffy who kicked Lightning Pre timeskip without any gears, later gets gear second and is still a statue to the Admirals then Post timeskip didges an explosion that is on him while in base later get blitzed by Doflamingo while in Gear Second, Oh yeah that's certainly not fast enough to blitz the team who has only one lightning timer, which Luffy by himself has already surpassed PTS.....
For someone who dislikes calculations for Bleach you sure love them when its OP
I did no calculations I just pointed out he got faster.... im not saying by 5 or 10x just that he obviously got faster..... Dude can you really not read?
I'm arguing none of them Solo, no one on the OP team is going to blitz in character.
Luffy by himself blitzes in character.....
Except he doesn't, the only time he blitzed in G4 was against Doffy and he was enraged during that fight.
Try again(I'll edit and put the scans up for each blitz mentioned)
Crocodile Round 1(cuts Crocodile off from finishing his sentence)
Crocodile Round 2 iirc
Crocodile Round 3 iirc
Enel(he runs up the ship and attacks him)
Lucci( again cuts him off)
Moria (Blitzes but brick bats op)
Hody Jones
Ceasar round 1
Ceasar Round 2
Ceasar round 3
Doflamingo as mentioned
Cracker
Big mom
Kaidou's subordinate
Kaidou
Even if I agree that Luffy will blitz that's still a far cry from all of them Soloing.
Any of them solo just because they don't blitz doesn't Ean they can't solo your logic is.....warped
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