Godzilla, Optimus Prime (IDW) vs Hulk, Darth Vader (Marvel)

Godzilla is current but no amped God Godzilla feats.

Prime is at current, but no Universe deleting Matrix in direct combat.

Hulk is current, but no Starship Hulk.

Darth Vader is current Marvel and last seen in Legends.

Death or KO.

Battle on a earth look alike planets but has a indestructible planet mantle.

Tags for this epic match up!

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I feel vader can Hold off prime with force powers, Hulk and Godzilla is a toss up.

I will wait to see what others have to say.

But this is an intriguing battle.

^This, except I don't know enough to confidently say anything about the capabilities of Optimus or Marvels Vader.

This type of fight is refreshing to see!

Nice battle

Hulk Vs Godzilla, I’ll give it to Zilla

Optimus Vs. Vader, Optimus easily. Even if there is no using the matrix during combat:

He shatters sixshot’s armor, which was made from a collapsed star

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Beats Nova Prime in the Dead Universe, which Nova had complete control over

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One blast alongside Megatron’s kills Regenesis Shockwave, who collapsed the universe into himself

Optimus stomps tbh. Zilla could also solo, but idk enough about Hulk’s feats

@sirfizzwhizz: Any reason why Godzilla doesn't solo?

@mordhauextreme1: the feats I posted above.

Edit: nvm theyre on the same team

@mr-yes: Yeah and after i saw ur feats, i dont see why Optimus "OG" Prime doesn't solo either

@mordhauextreme1: yup. Both Prime and Zilla are on another level

@eredin12: Optimus do not have the Matrix so that's out of the question.

God zilla for me is around Hulks level.

I don't see anyone soloing here.

@odin619360: read the feats I posted. Even without the matrix he’s busted

TBF Hulk done all that you mention as well. Lifted the weight of a neutron Star. collapse dimensions/universes and survive. Punch through time. He beat Nightmare Lords and Hell Lords in their own universes that they are stated Omnipotent in. There mostly nonsense feats.

Agreed.

@sirfizzwhizz:

TBF Hulk done all that you mention as well.

mm

Lifted the weight of a neutron Star.

Lifted=/=destroying/shattering it

collapse dimensions/universes and survive.

Context? Scan?

Punch through time.

Shockwave held time and space in the palm of his hand, next

He beat Nightmare Lords and Hell Lords in their own universes that they are stated Omnipotent in.

Well we know that’s not a real feat. omnipotent Hulk, that’ll be the day

There mostly nonsense feats.

oh then I didn’t need to go through this at all then.

Hulk solos

Not too sure, I would think Team 1 but I'm not too knowledgeable on what composite Vader is capable of.

@wastelandman said:

Planetary and FTL

LOL no. He’s by far the least likely to solo here. Prime solostomps tho

Bait

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@mr-yes: I doubt it, hulk should tear them to shreds

On behalf of IDW Godzilla and his feats your high. Not only is Hulk making GZ stronger the entire match, simply existing, but GZ has more consistent feats in a short few years of IDW comics than Hulk has his whole 60+ years of comics. GZ been breaking worlds several times casually in his comics in few years span where Hulk only breaks planets.... once. As World Breaker. Hmmm....

This is obvious bait

@mr-yes:

Lifted the weight of a neutron Star.

It was done in some of The newer Avengers comics

collapse dimensions/universes and survive.

• That is from the older comics from the 60's but again, Old Hulk from 616 shouldn't be mixed with the newer comics on Hulk 616. Anyways Hulk is very inconsistent and has been stomped by much less means.

Did you even read the feats I posted?

Nice battle..... Let's see what we have here.

• If Hulk isn't angry enough, he would be very close to being fodderised by Team 1. When angry well enough, he can put up a good fight against Godzilla or Optimus but again, his pure rage would be countered by combat tactics from Optimus, or Godzilla's sheer size (Toe poke).

• Darth Vader would have to camp and ambush, I mean his Telekinesis and Force powers would do him good if he stays put from being close countered. Otherwise in terms of durability, he is literally fodder in comparison to the three on this list.

• Optimus would have to stop jobbing around, about freedom and rights if he wants to actually put himself to good use. I mean the reason why he has so many dumb inconsistencies is due to him jobbing and doing F**K all when someone attacks him. Without himself jobbing, Optimus actually will make the rest ''Rage Quit''.

• Godzilla is Godzilla. His sheer size and more consistent outlook of feats makes him the best valued target here. Even better still, he has no limitations to his morals or powers (Optimus jobbing etc etc).

Either team 1 Fodders the rest or Team 2 catches Gojira lacking and Prime Freedom Fetishing.....

-----> Offender-tron out

@mr-yes: nope

Then post his feats. Lol at only world breaker hulk being plantery when even pre core breach savage hulk has planet lvl feats and scaling

Clearing some things up-

Prime jobs a lot due to morals. Was getting rocked by Nova Prime until he started going all out. Same with regenisis shockwave. And every character Prime faces.

Restricting the use of the matrix doesnt restrict his abilities the matrix gave him. For example, the Matrix destroyed the D-Void. Not usable here considering the matrix itself was used. Prime beating Nova and Shockwave? Usable considering the matrix wasn't used. If you want the matrix removed completely, then change it to Orion pax. Because thats literally what the fight would be. And he'd die in like 5 seconds.

Im fine with Shockwave and Nova, I just dont want dumb "Matrix shoots and goes brrrr" Void argument. Though Optimus being Universe level regardless is silly to me either way as you know. Im not going to argue for it or against it. Im just adding Zilla feats and info for this one.

Godzilla also casually boils the seas just charging up. Then stated to end the world by blowing it up in the future precognition of the Psychics and Kids.

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Godzilla is shown deciding to wipe out life on the planet with Radiation and forcing the world into a Ice Age with super blast. Stated later Godzilla can also choose to end the world.

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Heat Beam is so powerful, it can bust through a force field empowered by the force of a black hole!

The Heat Beam of Godzilla is so powerful, that even Space Godzilla was damage heavily by it. Same Spacegodzilla whose origins are always growing in a blackhole and exiting a white whole in durability.

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Godzilla combining beams with Space Godzilla blow up a earth.

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Godzilla in Rage Across Time comics is shown to beat the Greek Gods. As in the mythological real world Greek Gods. Starting with crushing Poseidon, vaporizing Ares with a nuke beam, beating the hydra, crushing all other gods with Mount Olympus, and then having a back and forth battle with Zeus where Godzilla was KOed, but not before depowering Zeus of all his power.

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Godzilla shrugs off a Absolute Zero attack from Mechagodzilla. This Absolute Zero cannon one shot Destroroyah, heavily damage Space Godzilla, but Godzilla himself shrugs it off.

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Godzilla survives being trapped in a stated black hole straight from the Godzilla vs Megagarius film. Its easily pulls in two monsters and Mechagodzilla. Godzilla however tanks it and keeps from being killed by it.

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Godzilla survives a planet busting explosion. after earth was destroyed, Godzilla seem to die but was transported to Heaven. Many assume he died, due to the web site description. However, the website that states this NEVER says that Godzilla died, only how Godzilla end up arriving in Hell. The Writer of the story Matt Frank later confirm Godzilla did not die when asked on twitter about it. So Godzilla was transported to heaven, offered by God to be a servant, turns it down, then thrown into hell.

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After nearly killed by the combined efforts of several Kaiju, including Destoroyah, Mothra buys some time for Godzilla to fetch the Aircraft Carrier's nuclear reactor to fully charge.

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After Godzilla is hit by megaton Nuke, Godzilla absorbs the radiation to get bigger and stronger.

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Godzilla absorbs the energy of this Nuclear plant to recover from the multitude of previous fights that weaken Godzilla.

Godzilla under the sun on Mars is able to absorb the radiation and turn Burning mode.

These feats are more than enough. Regen, Radiation Absorbtion, Heat Beam, and Durability to crush Hulk feats spread across 60+ years vs IDW Godzilla several years of comics.

This is an awesome idea for a thread. I hope to see more team ups of IDW prime and godzilla

@sirfizzwhizz: they aren’t tbh

Hulk powers through a forcefield/TK energy capable of moving a planet out of it's orbit

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Tanked and walked through a blast from Vector that was said to be able to wipe away worlds and was on panel so strong it was breaking reality

Hulk punches the ground in Colorado an an Earthquake is felt around the planet all the way to Denmark

A calm Hulk causes a 5.6 earthquake across the planet that results in chasms opening, volcanos erupting, sinkholes appearing, oceans disturbing, icebergs breaking, etc...

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Hulk plays tug of war with Exitar

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Hulk holds up the weight of a star

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Characters hulk scales to have tanked or torn apart black holes

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Hulk is currently playing around with super condensed planet cores for shits and giggles while slowly dying and even condenses a planet core with another hulk at a lower lvl of rage

Godzilla steps on Vader without noticing him. Then him and Prime play catch with Hulk.

Depends... Hulk at peak has some low multiversal feats. Optimus IDW has some decent universal feats too. Godzilla IDW has the scaling from the Hell Arc, that is not counting the God amp.

@gojira2512:

Hulk at peak has some low multiversal feats

Hulk cannot even beat Superman, not without some very specific comic arc of the week plot power like Uni Power or some crap on that level.

At best casual planet buster like this IDW GZ.

@sirfizzwhizz: I send you a PM.

team 1

Godzilla steps on all 3 knats

Universal IDW Optimus is nonsense.

Disregarding that, he possesses multi continental AP at minimum, with star level AP maximum. Godzilla is a powerhouse as well, with helpful radiation, although he is slow.

Vader is faster than anyone here with planetary AP to boot, is tough to beat considering his speed and force defenses, and his lightsaber will be a tough obstacle to overcome, but TP won’t be an issue for either of team 1. Hulk has little going for him, and gets stomped by either of Team 1.

I don’t think either of Team 1 can bypass Godzilla’s advantage with radiation, Prime has been implied to have survived Star level temperatures IIRC so a lightsaber shouldn’t be too much of a problem. Either of Team 2 would probably lose to either of Team 1, to be honest. Team 1.

Glad you've awaken as well.

Still team one. Primes durability is better than his AP, and Godzilla is still to haxy.

@chris2kzombieki:

Glad you've awaken as well.

Lol, most, if not all evidence for universal Prime is laughably easy to debunk. None of it holds any water. Nor is it consistent, taking them into account or not.

Yeah on Shockwave and D-Void are universal with Shockwave having a decent case for low end multiversal, it’s just the way he accomplishes it meant you can’t scale it to anybody. IDW Optimus does have some really good resistances though, the Matrix negged instant death hax twice, and him surviving the weird space bridge collapse would indicate some unexplained spacial hax resistance possibly. Not sure how it matters much for this matchup but just thought I should mention it.

Now Star Convoy on the other hand, is definitely universal, if you guys are ever looking for a universe level Optimus to use.

Didnt you use to support Universe busting Prime in past threads though?

Not anymore.

@mr-yes: good man. 👍😉