Godzilla and King Ghidorah V.S. All Might and All For One

• Godzilla
• King Ghidorah

• All Might (Yagi Toshinori)
• All For One (Shigaraki)

Rules

• Random Encounter
• In character (but willing to work together)
• Standard Gear and Abilities for All
• Prime Versions for Anime team
• Base Versions for Kaiju team
  • All Titans' energy-based abilities are disabled
  • Godzilla only has feats from the 2014 Movie
  • Ghidorah only has one head
• Win by any means necessary

Location

• Combatants start 1,000 ft. apart, visible from each others' sights
• Civilians and outside interference will not be tolerated

If the fight is too unfair, suggestions on how to make it fairer are welcome.

Honestly I think it’s a severe mismatch. I doubt All Might and AFO have the durability to last. Plus I know for a fact Godzilla outmuscles All might. If we go by the awakening comic(which is part of the monsterverse)Godzilla can withstand around 200 or so trillion pounds if I did the math correct. Which also doubles as a durability feat. KG is almost unbeatable unless you atomize him like Godzilla did. Don’t see them standing a chance. Also radiation lol

Yea I just dont see a way how the Boku duo can harm the Titans.

Titans solo the verse pretty easily.

Either Kaiju/Titan solo

EDIT (4-12/13-2020)

• All Titans' energy-based abilities are disabled
• Godzilla only has feats from 2014 Movie
• Ghidorah only has one head

How is the fight now?

Noted. Thank you.

Still a mismatch.

@sobekapep7 said:

Too much hax for them to solo.

@rizaadxn: There's very little hax at all. I dont remember anyone being able to fight a godzilla level threat with hax.Godzilla could just walk through the entire verse

@rizaadxn: What hax? There is nothing MHAverse that they can't over power, even considering MHAverse' hax. We are talking about a creature that tanked the Permian extinction event with his head, tanked oxygen destroyer with immense trouble(which killed planetary and above Godzillas in past movies) and another creature that is even stronger, can make world wide storms and control an army of giant monsters. There is nothing in verse that can tickle them.

@kgb725 said:

Twice with knowledge of Compress could take care of him. It'd be a pretty slow process but there's no counter to how Compress turns matter into a little shiny marble. Bit by bit they'd turn chunks of him into little marbles. Also, seeing as how slow he is, a character like All Might could run circles around his head, drop twice on it and let the Sad Man's Parade begin, each clone could start making more clones, said clones can make more Compress and they could easily just destroy his brain (if 2014 Godzilla has 2 brains then you just repeat the process on his second one)

The hard counter would be Godzilla either stepping on or blasting them. Compress isnt that fast and neither is twice he could just slap them off and kill them all

@kgb725 said:

Energy blasts are restricted though I doubt he'd ever even tag the Top Tiers with it to begin with and as I mentioned All Might could just fly then up to his head. Also, Twices' rate of cloning is so fast that he flooded Deika City with 20,000+ clones in a couple of minutes at most.

It also depends on the environment, if they aren't in a city with huge skyscrapers, like in the movies, then Godzilla won't necessarily be able to smash them against anything. He's also really slow, Twices' rate of cloning would be too fast and if a character like All Might comes in to swoop and protect the real Twice then there's no problem there. Also, Shigaraki's quirk bypasses conventional durability (we'll see how his upgrade went in the next few chapters) and he could disintegrate massive chunks of Godzilla with a touch, again, Twice could make thousands of Shigaraki.

@rizaadxn: There are problems with those:

First of all: Speed isn't an issue, since they are able to react to likes of Rodan, who flies at super Sonic speeds.

Second, even thousands of insects can't kill a dragon. Goji is too durable even without his atomic Ray to be killed by anyone from MHA. And since when can Shigiraki's ability ignore durability to that level?

@sobekapep7 said:

Rodan is a massively larger target by comparison. Hitting something as big as that, moving at those speeds is way easier than hitting a human sized enemy moving at speeds faster than that. To which MHA's Top Tiers should be faster. All Might having consistent calcs to put him at mach 3 to 4.

The thing about Compress is that he completely ignores durability, if Twice was to use his quirk to create thousands of Compress they'd just be able to constantly turn the flesh of the Kaiju bodies into marbles. It's a hax power with no get around. It compressess mass into an area the size of a marble, then it stays as a marble unless Compress wills it not to be. Then there's quirks like Overhaul which also bypasses conventional durability as he can disassemble and reassemble matter as he wills after touching it. Eri's quirk is good but I doubt she could rewind a creature that's been around for hundreds of millions of years due to its limitations.

You're right, I doubt Shigaraki's decay could bypass something so durable but Compress and Overhaul certainly do.

Anyways, I think we should leave this here cuz it's kinda off topic. I agree that All Might and AFO aren't beating the Kaiju due to not being strong enough, just that if it was the verse they likely could with the right prep due to hax.

@rizaadxn:

Still, he should be able to catch him. And Rodan is around same speeds.

Has Compress or Overhaul ever used their quirks on something durable as Godzilla? No, then it doesn't really matter, even with prep. They don't exactly have a no limits facility, and Godzilla can just roll around can kill them, that's assuming they don't die from radiation.

@sobekapep7 said:

nah lol. There is a dude called Godzillo and his quirk is Toho, basically he's godzilla in the MHA universe

Either monster stomps, and the Ghidorah nerf is hilariously stupid and unnecessary.

Godzilla and King Ghidorah both solo.

With this many nerfs to monsters MHA duo probably wins.

Wait, what?

@takenstew22:This guy. He is literally godzilla in the MHA universe plus a hero. So no, the titans aren't soloing lol

@vydeos: Lol. Nice.

@vydeos: ..What? That guy is featless and nowhere near the size of the monsterverse titans. That doesn't prove that the titans don't stomp no matter how you look at it.

@questbrah:Monsterverse titans are weak. Godzillo looks like a parody of Heisei godzilla, which stomps monsterverse. He is featless but you can't assume he's weak.

And what? Godzilla only feats from 2014? Lmao, 2014 godzilla was knocked down by a building, and almost beat to death by Mutos. No energy means no beam for godzilla and no lightning breath for ghidorah. What are they gonna do? Try to step on them?

The kaiju are slow as hell, even if they can one shot they won't because of how slow they are. Heroes can just evade them forever. Titans aren't winning.

@sobekapep7: lmao you pretending travel speed = reaction speed?

Godzilla was already extremely exhausted when that building fell on him. Not to mention that buildings was a few times his size. Mutos were stabbing him and considering mutos evolved to kill godzilla species its not exactly reasonable to think they are much weaker than he is. Also "you cant assume they are weak because they are featless"

This thread is dumb. When you have to extensively nerf one side massively, you know you've done goofed

Could go either way honestly. But Burning Godzilla is overkill for the MHA verse.

@nwname: So how are the kaiju going to kill AFO and All Might? Without beams all they can do is swipe at them and try to step on them. The kaiju are hilariously slow so there's no way they can land a single hit.

All Might's punches have reached gigaton level, which is far above the kiloton nuke G14 tanked. And that's one punch. If he spams rapid punch it will be enough to put down G14. Godzilla can maybe topple buildings by ramming into it. All Might has city level feats that can knock down multiple buildings.

Ghidorah is basically useless without his lightning breath. Godzilla would beat him in a brawl. The only real problem is regeneration. But who knows what kind of quirks AFO has. And this is prime AFO, not the weakened faceless one in the show. What if AFO has a size changing quirk that he can use to grow bigger than Godzilla and Ghidorah?

I didnt say they can kill them. I only corrected bullshit.

lol no punch of all might is in gigaton range. Maybe? He crushed half a skyscraper accidentally when his slap missed male muto. And female muto ramming godzilla directly pulverized 2 skyscrapers. There are tons of other feats like that through the series and in none of them did titans even actively seeked to punch down skyscrapers. Knocking down multiple buildings is a city level feat now?

With these OP nerfs the MHA team has a chance, but the nerfs are really stupid and logically either titan solos.

@vydeos: Godzilla alone can move his tail at super sonic speeds according to the producers and both titans can react to each other attacking.

@sobekapep7: Uh yeah, so can a whip. That's not going to do anything. We clearly see how slow the titans move on screen. You also completely disregarded agility.

@nwname:There are calculations that put his punches at Gigaton levels, that's what they said in deathbattle when All Might created a storm beyond the horizon in a single punch. That was not in his prime. There are also many feats where the wind from All Might's punch alone damaged buildings much further away.

Godzilla 2014 still takes damage from buildings, and so do the mutos. The male muto was actually killed because he was slammed into the building too hard. In other words, a building level attack will damage them.

@kgb725: I mean there is a guy who can kill you with a touch. I don't think size or durability has any affect on that. His quirk is disintegration, and Godzilla is made of organic material. Another guy who can just disassemble anything he touches.

Lmao there is not a single logical calc on that level. They are either filled with ridiculous assumptions or flat out awful.

Like look at this deathbattle calc, the diameter is about 50-60 times the height of a floor by scaling but the calc put at 797 times that. This makes the volume off 1000s of times.

When did Godzilla ever get damaged by a building? You are just making it up at this point. Only male Muto did and that was when he was slammed against it by Godzilla. Neither female nor godzilla ever took damage from buildings. Male muto didnt either with the exception of getting tail slammed into it. Godzilla threw him on buildings before and it just pulverized the tops of those buildings. Tho male muto is evidently far more fragile still. Also by the same logic All Might KOed AFO by slamming him into rock ground so sub-rock tier AFO i guess. Godzilla standing up alone is a city block level feat due to mass. There is no logical way to put him at building level even exclusively by his worst showings.

@nwname: Godzilla was literally knocked down by a building and did not get back up for a while. G14 was an exceptionally weak Kaiju. Even Pacific Rim kaijus had better feats, seen when they were barreling through buildings without damage. Hell Transformers have better building feats when Driller destroyed that building.

G14 being knocked down by a building is equivalent to you being knocked down by a giant pillar made of glass, metal and rock. It's going to hurt a lot, it might even kill you.

And G14 was getting whooped by male and female Muto. They weren't using some special ability either. They were just pounding him to death. Even if we say that every attack from the Mutos are building level (they're obviously not), Godzilla was still being hurt by building level attacks. Hell, I'll bet the missiles from the military still hurt Godzilla, it just didn't damage him as much. Maybe it would feel like a bee sting to him.

If you can't remember then you should go rewatch the movie. Deathbattle estimated All Might's max power to be 1.4k Gigatons. Even if we divide by 10,000, that's still sure as hell greater than the kiloton bomb G14 tanked. And I'll take Deathbattle calculations over the opinion of some random dude on the internet any day.

Can't tell if you are serious anymore so probably my last reply. Getting knocked doesnt mean taking damage. Also not sure what "literally" adds to that. He suffered no damage from that. No wounds or broken limbs or whatever. At the point he was knocked down, he was already extremely exhausted and couldn't stand straight. Driller half-collapsing a skyscraper in 50 seconds is better than Female Muto pulverizing 2 instantly? If you didn't notice a Cat 5 Kaiju was getting knocked around and down by falling buildings much smaller than the one that fell on Godzilla. And that Cat 5 wasnt exhausted. Leather back was hurt by getting slammed by metal containers, Otachi was hurt by a small ship hitting it, Scunner's face was fried by submarine volcano fire etc. In all those instances we saw them take tissue damage or bleed unlike the G2014 instance.

They are obviously not building level. Its obviously stronger. Female muto made a large crater and pulverized a lot of rock by hitting the ground as even after a few hits city blocks worth of area was covered in concrete dust, carved out the side of a mountain and destroyed several city blocks by walking over Vegas. Even their mass puts the hits above building level. And they were stabbing Godzilla with their claws. If you aren't blind you can open the scene, look at godzilla and see that his body is undamaged by missiles.

Post the scene. You can't because there doesn't exist a single scene where godzilla gets wounded by a building. I showed why DB calcs sucked. You seem to be fine with using calcs that has stuff like 3 x 50 = 2391 so its no surprise you can't actually tell what makes sense and what doesn't. You are free to take whatever nonsense you find on youtube over basic arithmetics and physics but that doesn't change the fact that they are objectively wrong.

@nwname:You missed the point entirely...

If Godzilla can get knocked down by a skyscraper, then building level attacks will have the same affect. Even if we nerf All Might to skyscraper level a barrage of punches will definitely have an affect on Godzilla.

In Pacific Rim Otachi a cat 4 was barreling through buildings. The buildings were collapsing in on itself, but it still did no damage. Didn't see Godzilla do that. All we saw was him getting knocked over a whole lot, and beat up by Mutos. Then in the second movie there was Raijin who absorbed kinetic force, not only nullifying the attack but also hitting back with the same force. You also conveniently forgot to mention Slattern, who tanked a far greater nuke than 2014 that blew the water clean out of the ocean.

"Leather back was hurt by getting slammed by metal containers, Otachi was hurt by a small ship hitting it, Scunner's face was fried by submarine volcano fire etc."

No shit. What does this bring into the discussion exactly? Are you saying Godzilla would not get hurt if he was hit with a 50,000 ton ship? Godzilla would take zero damage from a giant ass robot smacking him in the face? mechagodzilla

"They are obviously not building level. Its obviously stronger."

Yes but not every attack is building level... Those smacks from the Mutos were not building level attacks and yet it was enough to keep Godzilla down.

And the last part is just you shitting on DB because it doesn't help with your argument.

You still failed to prove what the hell Godzilla and Ghidorah are gonna do to win here. They won't be able to land a single hit, and we know All Might's attack potency > kiloton nuke that Godzilla tanked. And this is disregarding AFO. Who knows what kind of quirks he had in his prime.

So basically you're saying no matter how much Godzilla gets whooped he "didn't take damage" because you can't see it. Ok. So I guess Ghidorah dropping Godzilla from the atmosphere did "no damage" because "Getting knocked doesnt mean taking damage" and "No wounds or broken limbs or whatever."

If you have to nerf the monsters this hard, it's already clear who won this fight from beginning.

@vydeos: Funny, all of what you said was wrong.

We are talking about beings that can causally tank nukes, can tank life-whiping meteors and multi-continental strikes from each other(Yes, I checked). Only time in Monsterverse where they have been harmed by slamming into buildings were done by each other or they didn't get hurt at all. Hokmuto got hurt by Godzilla's tail stike, Godzilla was harmed by Mutos and the building falling on him only winded him a bit, he was unharmed. Hell, in Godzilla vs Kong, Godzilla created a hole straight to hallow earth, a feat better than all MHA feats.

I mean, I like MHA too but I doubt that All Might or AFO can even do anything to Monsterverse Titans, especially Godzilla and Ghidorah. You are just wanking them or downplaying Monsterverse at this point.

@sobekapep7:Do you not understand basic logic?

Godzilla 2014 tanked a nuke in 1954. A kiloton nuke. All Might's attack potency is far beyond a few kilotons. His punches go into the gigaton range. That's more force generated by his fists than any nuke in the monsterverse. As for the meteor, that's in the comics, which are dubious, and may not be canon. Even if they were, only some of the comics are canon.

The point I'm trying to make is that the force of a building can knock Godzilla over, like in the movies. All Might's punches can EASILY hit building levels. So even if we nerf All Might and assume his punches are "only" building level, a barrage of hundreds of punches will knock Godzilla out easily. The shockwaves from All Might's movements were able to reach a whole city block, damaging all buildings. The male Muto didn't even break the glass of a building when it flew over it.

The Mutos nearly beat Godzilla in 2014. What did they do? Beat him up. If we assume each smack from the Mutos were building level (they are probably weaker) then a barrage of building level attacks still does hurt Godzilla. All Might alone can do this. This is also disregarding AFO. Who knows what kind of quirks he has? For all we know, he has a quirk that nullifies damage. Hell, that Nomu had shock absorption. AFO probably gave him that quirk. Nomu tanked pretty much all of All Might's punches. If we assume AFO has that as well, then the kaiju don't stand a chance.

"downplaying Monsterverse at this point"

... Did you not read the OP? Godzilla only has 2014 feats, Ghidorah has one head, and all energy attacks for Titans are disabled.

There is a hero called "Godzillo" in the MHA universe, and his quirk is "Toho" basically he's Godzilla. He looks like Heisei Godzilla who is massively stronger than monsterverse. There's a reason why he isn't number 1.

either Kaiju solo in normal conditions, here with this nerfs...they could lose

@vydeos:

Yes, do you? Because you sound like a retard at this point, nearly everyone debunked your points and you are repeating them like a fucking parrot.

They are canon actually, both comics are 100 percent canon to the movies. Especially with Emma Russell appearing in one of them. Even without them Godzilla 2 and Godzilla vs Kong has enough feats that make MHA look like a joke. Also Castle Bravo explosion was 15 Mt, not kilotons.

...Are you joking? Because it isn't funny. Every Monsterverse titan is at least around country level thanks to Godzilla's tanking meteor feat. Hell, mother of those things has a continental-multi continental calc, All Might and AFO are small country level at their primes with wank.

Because you are. Building level Godzilla? Even Zilla was Multi-City Block.

Even with that, Ghidorah solos, do you know why? Because he can grapple with Godzilla, who can do the same with Muto Prime. Same Muto Prime that can control tectonic plates with pure strength, a continental, multi-continental feat.

Are you fucking kidding me!? Heisei Godzilla is solar system level, he causally solos most anime verses, even likes of Bleach and Naruto, let alone MHA. Godzillo has no feats on the level as Monsterverse Godzilla, let alone Heisei. Hell, he is featless.

@sobekapep7:You sure you're not the one retarded?

"Godzilla 2 and Godzilla vs Kong has enough feats"

Aaaaand you've officially become retarded. the OP literally says "ONLY 2014 FEATS". You're either fucking blind or ignorant.

"Castle Bravo explosion was 15 Mt, not kilotons." Bitch what? They literally said "kilotons" in the fucking movie lmao

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/2915066d-4f70-42f9-8897-1a88f0cce387

"Monsterverse titan is at least around country level" You're either bullshitting or trolling on this one.

"Same Muto Prime that can control tectonic plates with pure strength, a continental, multi-continental feat." Some more bullshit with zero evidence.

"Zilla was Multi-City Block" He died... from missiles.

"Heisei Godzilla is solar system level" LMAO. Heisei burning godzilla, the strongest version of heisei, in fact he was so powerful he died, was stated to be able to destroy the planet. Tell me where the fuck you're getting solar system from.

Your wanking logic was kind of hilarious, but gets to the point of either trolling or retardation. I'm sorry can't take you seriously when you're pulling random shit out of your ass with no feats or statements to back it up. Nothing in the monsterverse is country level. Monsterverse Godzilla nearly fucking died from oxygen destroyer and you're gonna say "he's country level". This Godzilla was nearly beat to death by less than city level attacks.

So hold up, in your retarded mind, Godzilla can tank a meteor but the same Godzilla nearly dies from getting dropped from the sky? Either he got severely weaker, or the comics aren't canon.

AND AGAIN, If your RETARDED ASS actually READ THE OP, it says "2014 FEATS ONLY" which DOES NOT include COMIC FEATS.

And bitch please, tanking a meteor is a durability feat. Monsterverse Godzilla has no attack potency feats that put him at country level. If you're gonna continue trolling, just stop. It ain't funny.

@vydeos: Ok retard.

I was talking about Monsterverse as a whole, dumbass.

...You moron, that guy is merely saying "megatons, not kilotons", that doesn't mean anything. The explosion Godzilla tanked was the Castle Bravo one, 15 MT of TNT:

https://godzilla.fandom.com/wiki/1954

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Bravo

This shows that you know nothing about Monsterverse, considering Godzilla tanked Permian Extinction meteor, likes of Mutos can make him bleed and likes of Ghidorah can casually create storms of that caliber, by fligng alone:

https://vsprofilesdebateswiki.quora.com/Calculating-Ghidorah-doesn-t-give-a-f-about-climate-change

For fuck's shake, do you even read comics!?

https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:XSG_Adrian/MUTO_Prime_Earthquake_Punch

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Apex_PredatorX/MonsterVerse_Feats_Calc

...Take a look at this then: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Dark-Carioca/GINO_smashes_through_the_MetLife_building

Hah, you really know nothing about Godzilla and are just a wanking and downplaying fan brat after all:

Godzilla's DNA cells tanked the energies of black holes and exploding stars, hell Space Godzilla absorbed the energy of a black hole and fixed star. Word of God also confirmed he "munched on a dying star" on his way to Earth...etc.

"Blablabla, I am a downplaying and wanking retard and can't debate for shit" That's all I hear from you. Go fucking kill yourself and save me of the trouble retard.

Like Ghidorah's storms? Godzilla's hole to the center of earth? Titans actually harming each other despite their durability? You are just embrassing yourself at this point.

And before you whine me about "2014 only" that only goes for Godzilla, Ghidorah wasn't even in that film, also I am speaking for the whole Monsterverse at this point because of your nonsense. Now, you and suck on your pacifer you overgrown baby.

With the given nerfs, going with the MHA duo.

Off-Topic: @vydeos: @sobekapep7: You both need to chillax.