Goddess Madoka vs Xeno Goku

Avatar image for deactivated-5ff5e39de7b68
deactivated-5ff5e39de7b68

1493

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

No Caption Provided

Who wins? And don't make it a flame war please. Give your reasons.

No Caption Provided
Avatar image for ghostwarren
GhostWarren

1660

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Toki Toki is multiversal+ due to being the embodiment of time and demigra absorbed him to destroy infinite timelines . He then destroyed the crack of time and real world which are higher dimensions above the infinite multiverse. So demigra ranges to high multiversal+ to low complex multiversal and Goku stomped him.

Avatar image for kingxix
Kingxix

4231

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@ghostwarren: I don't think demigra destroyed crack of time. It was Our CaC that destroyed the crack of time with a super Kamehameha.

Our CaC is actually above demigra in terms of power.

Avatar image for deactivated-5ff28288e0b69
deactivated-5ff28288e0b69

4468

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Madoka easily

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Goku wins mid diff

Avatar image for typeiv
TypeIV

188

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

There is no infinite multiverse in DB. There are finite timelines that are manually created by time travelers. Only the possibilities of what timelines can be created are endless. Another reason that no one in DB has infinite power is because they still have transformations with a finite multiplier. And even if Goku was infinite multiversal (he isn't), he's a MFTL+ statue with no hax reaching even the most basic conceptual level, which is a must requirement to even be barely relevant at this tier. And infinite speed via IT is irrelevant, as he needs to use his base finite speed to pull off the maneuver.

Meanwhile Madoka is a conceptual law of reality that is omnipresent across a truly infinite multiverse. Even if Goku had infinite speed, Madoka is everywhere at once in the past present and future of every timeline, to which there are an infinite amount. She would hit Goku at every point in time and every alternate version of himself in every timeline. He cannot tank her hits because her attacks erase concepts, and likewise he cannot damage her because she is an abstract conceptual law that his hax have no feats of effecting.

@just_naufal@blazeking22@ghostwarren

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@typeiv: there are infinite timelines . you proved nothing

Avatar image for typeiv
TypeIV

188

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#11  Edited By BlazeKing22

@typeiv: They're are infinite timelines. You proved nothing

Avatar image for typeiv
TypeIV

188

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@blazeking22: I'll humor you simply for my own amusement. How does Goku not die less than instantly to Madoka?

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@typeiv: because they're on the same level of not higher for goku

Avatar image for destinyman75
destinyman75

19292

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Goku mid difficulty

Avatar image for animeisniche_ok
Animeisniche_ok

1506

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

dear mother of god. Not even vsbattles downplays DBH so hard compared to many users here and they even changed their infinte speed norm a few times cuz DBH qualified for infinte speed.

Avatar image for deactivated-605ff3ffc3245
deactivated-605ff3ffc3245

1932

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@typeiv: I think you are misunderstanding the concept here. This is not from DB canon verse but the DBH verse which has hax and infinite timelines.

Avatar image for kasya_carey
kasya_carey

16441

Forum Posts

282

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Avatar image for poeticwarrior
poeticwarrior

4037

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#18  Edited By poeticwarrior

Can Goku actually survive in space? How can he interact with a concept across the multiverse without a body anyway?

Avatar image for typeiv
TypeIV

188

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#19  Edited By TypeIV

@kratosx64x said:

@typeiv: I think you are misunderstanding the concept here. This is not from DB canon verse but the DBH verse which has hax and infinite timelines.

I'm speaking of DBH. I debunked the infinite timelines; and fodder DBH hax arguably aren't even considered hax at Madoka's tier.

@poeticwarrior said:

Can Goku actually survive in space?

Only for a limited time going off feats.

How can he interact with a concept across the multiverse without a body anyway?

He can't.

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@typeiv: well you're wrong and don't know anything about dbh then

Avatar image for typeiv
TypeIV

188

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Avatar image for deactivated-605ff3ffc3245
deactivated-605ff3ffc3245

1932

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@typeiv: How are you debunking something that is specificly stated in the manga more than once?

Avatar image for typeiv
TypeIV

188

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#26  Edited By TypeIV
@kratosx64x said:

@typeiv: How are you debunking something that is specificly stated in the manga more than once?

Because I've played the XV games and know how timelines work. Don't come at me saying I'm wrong if you can't provide a counterargument.

And no one is answering how Goku can do anything except die less than instantly even with the assumed infinite multiverse wank.

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@typeiv: its not wank . there are infinite timelines in xenoverse so you proved nothing

Avatar image for kek_
Kek_

354

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@typeiv: Pretty sure he's talking about Heroes and not Xenoverse

Avatar image for kek_
Kek_

354

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

OT: Goku loses badly

Avatar image for typeiv
TypeIV

188

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@kek_ said:

@typeiv: Pretty sure he's talking about Heroes and not Xenoverse

Same canon.

Avatar image for kek_
Kek_

354

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@typeiv: Didn't know about that lol

Avatar image for typeiv
TypeIV

188

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Avatar image for deactivated-5ff28288e0b69
deactivated-5ff28288e0b69

4468

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Goku stomps

Avatar image for deactivated-5ff45903d43d7
deactivated-5ff45903d43d7

1636

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Madoka is a concept and transcends an infinite multiverse + an nonexistent multiverse. There is no way he can hurt her.

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Avatar image for deactivated-5ff28288e0b69
deactivated-5ff28288e0b69

4468

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Still madoka stomps

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Avatar image for deactivated-5ff45903d43d7
deactivated-5ff45903d43d7

1636

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@blazeking22:
"Goku stomps"
"Large planet at best"
"Toribot Omnipotent"
Get lost already.

Avatar image for brock456
Brock456

132

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Xeno Goku wins

Avatar image for lsoon23
Lsoon23

2092

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Even if we assume Goku is infinite multiversal he still gets neg diffed.

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Goku stomps negg diff

Avatar image for lsoon23
Lsoon23

2092

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

idk how the guy above me and his alts aren't banned.

Avatar image for caocao
CaoCao

6861

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#44 CaoCao  Online

Mismatch. Madoka is way beyond Goku his paygrade, he dies a horrible death.

Avatar image for blazeking22
BlazeKing22

2262

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Goku wins mid diff

Avatar image for lsoon23
Lsoon23

2092

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Goku wins mid diff

Now this is something I can agree on.

Avatar image for deactivated-605ff3ffc3245
deactivated-605ff3ffc3245

1932

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@typeiv: Heroes has Xenoverse as part of their verse in it but is not the same canon because the characters that are in Heroes are not in Xenoverse. You can't use Xenoverse mechanics to debunk something from a different series.

I won't argue about Madoka verse because i have no clue about it so why should i make an arugment lol

Avatar image for typeiv
TypeIV

188

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@kratosx64x: Pretty sure it's the same canon bud. Also the translation meant countless IIRC.

Avatar image for deactivated-605ff3ffc3245
deactivated-605ff3ffc3245

1932

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@typeiv: countless has the same meaning as infinte in fictional work most of the time. No DBH has DBS, Xenoverse, GT, Movies and so on as a parallel universes inside their verse. It is not the same canon. You can't go there without any indication whatsoever. Having Xenoverse characters inside is logical within DBH because it has all the characters from all mediaforms from DB in their verse.

Avatar image for theemperor95
TheEmperor95

4679

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@blazeking22: how does goku win this? From what they've said of her character goku can't interact with her