Which team do you see winning ?
Pre retcon molecule man solos
Actually, I don't disagree, but not in total agreement either. Heh
Its PreR MMs potential that separates him from the likes of PreR Beyonder, Kubik and other CC beings.
Though I think an argument for HOTI Thanos can always be made.
I hate the Doom wank, he is a non-factor here. He had problems against Black Panther with the IG, but in the end, he beated Black Panther. The Beyonders (Doom has stolen the powers from the Beyonder), are not really powerful. A explosion that can destroy 100k universes can kill all beyonders. So no, he is not so powerful like people say. In the end, it would be HOTU Thanos vs Molecule man, and molecule man probaly takes this, because of feats.
Yeah, Thanos absorbed LT, but Moleculeman was several times more powerful than LT, but molecule man could go agaist a beign, who was million times more powerful than the marvel multiverse (Including LT). I could post more things from molecule man, but he is clearly the winner.
the living tribunal and the other abstracts was not so prominent nor did he posit significant multiversal feats during the time of pre-retconned secret wars era.
trying to forward scale pre-retcon molecule man to later various forms of the living tribunal after molecule man was retconned and the living tribunal got very much gaugable power levels and status is a bad idea.
@etriel: But still doesn't change the fact, that he was way more powerful LT. Like I understand, LT hasn't an M-Body. The cosmic cube version from molecule man gets stomped. LT was afraid from the pre-retcon beyonder and asked owie to help him, because he couldn't defeat him. Yeah, LT has become way more feats, but he was always the same powerful. So that probaly doen't change anything.
before secret wars retcon. the living tribunal had almost no feats. the cosmology iteration of marvel was literally retconned.
so you cannot prove that the living tribunal pre-sw retcon is as strong as his later classic selves. you are just assuming.
it does change something. you implying a featless character in its evolution of marvel's self retcons is as strong as his later selves is off to me.
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