God Dr Doom vs Dr Manhattan

Manhattan. He just joggs back in time and whacks Dr Doom.

@professorrespect: That isn’t a reason to why it wouldn’t work on Doom. It actually would work tbh. Doom has no way to “counter” Dr.M if he does precisely just that.

@professorrespect: No it’s not. Same can be said about Dr.M, he is part of the first team in watchmen comics. He is a critical component to the company. So idk what your getting at using an argument like that lol. Dr.M would know everything about Doom just by looking at him and if he decides to teleport let’s say, to his place of birth as a baby then Doom is toast. As he has no counter for this type of blitz. And there are plenty of other options at disposition as well.

@professorrespect: This is a fight. Not a story. DrM doesn’t care about Doom nor his world so that has no bearing in this match. Doom also has no feats that can top DrM, so this should be a breeze in Jon’s favor.

Dr.M never tried to remove superman from existence before he realized how important he was to the DC multiverse

Him talking about Sups existing regardless of what he could do doesn't ring a bell? Not at all?

The argument ur using about Doom's role as an important character in marvel has no bearing here. DrM doesn't know doom

He doesn't know him, yet you say in a earlier post that he'd "know everything about Doom just by looking at him" which is a blatant contradiction.

If you read the conditions of the op, " no morals and out to kill" then that makes DrM care about Doom even less

Great! That doesn't mean Manhattan becomes stupid all of a sudden and forgoes logic.

This isn't Doomsday clock, this is a fight

Doomsday Clock was a fight between Sups and Manhattan.

Dr M

Dr. Manhattan not only is Doom unable to kill him for a start, Manhattan scales past beings like Mxy and TDK who stomp doom. A better question is Mxy vs Doom.

Mxy said he was scared of him. And Jor-el also said Manhattan was a greater threat then Mxy and wanted Kal to leave earth with his family. The guy was so scared he had a monitor watching Mars where Manhattan was living on at the time.

Keep in mind Jor-el was able to make a jail specifically for Mxy that negated Mxy’s powers.

1. No it does not, like at all.

Proof?

2. Listen, Dr.M has no emotional connection to Doom

He doesn't need to do so to believe that Doom's importance is a critical factor.

He does not care what happens to him, or his worlds

He should if you're saying he's winning via time travel, which in Marvel causes another universe to be created. It's not a win condition.

3.Read the comic, Ddc was a comic about DrM and him fixing the prime universe of Dc, the Metaverse. Jon was trying to fix it the best way possible without interfering with mortals. He doesn't like to get involved in things. Superman was just the center of it all, which has been stated multiple times

And Sups was the problem he admitted he couldn't retroactively remove properly, much like Doom would be here.

proof of what?

Proof of what you're saying.

Again, Doom and Marvel mean nothing to DrM and u saying that he won't wipe him out of existence because "doom is important to marvel"

In the same vain as Sups was interconnected to DC, ofc.

holds no bearing for the reasons already stated. Who cares if another universe is created/destroyed in marvel, Doom in this fight will cease to exist

He'll cease to exist in one universe that Manhattan created by time travelling and killing him as a child. The Doom he meets here will not be effected. Manhattan would need to do this to every single version for that to be valid, otherwise he's just making another universe.

Supes wasn't the problem. It was the shifts in timelines of the Prime universe/Metaverse's supes that was the problem

Nope. Manhattan kept shifting things around but Sups was a consistent which was preserving every world where Superman lived. As you'd know, he comes to the conclusion that Sups always leads mankind regardless of what he does.

proof of what tho

You can clearly see what exactly from the posts above.

Um no. Doom isn't acasual

Isn't what?

so if he gets wiped out as a baby or in any poojt of time in his past then he dies

Doesn't work like that in Marvel. That was just be another universe created and thus not related to Doom in the present.

regardless of another universes being created. Because the Doom in the present would just disapear.

Again the problem isn't superman. The problem is the " shifts in supes timelines"

Despite this, Sups was the consistent keeping many worlds intact with his presence: he was the key in which Manhattan couldn't navigate around.

And creation itself revolves around superman yes, but that doesn't mean that clark cannot be killed

It means he can't be easily bypassed around cosmologically, ofc. Doom is the same.

U need to be more specific of what proof u want shown

Proof of your claims that you made about my info being incorrect.

What do u mean it doesn't work like that in marvel lol?

Doing the whole "I'll use time travel to kill x in the past" makes another timeline. Days of Future Past, Cosmic Ghost Rider, etc etc. The present day versions are fine because the process of time travelling and even encountering their past versions makes a new universe.

Again, superman didn't keep any worlds intact with his presence It was the Metaverse itself that revolves around the story of superman

As I said, Superman is the glue that keeps them together. Manhattan couldn't really get past that or paste it over.

Doom, through not easily.