GLADIATOR & WW HULK VS JUGGERNAUT & THOR 616
I think that Thor and Juggernaut would win, but there is WW Hulk on the other team... so I think it could be a tie and if anyone won it would be Thor and Juggernaut
Why pick team 1 primarily because of Hulk when Gladiator is far superior?" @demifiend: On a Gladiator kick I see.I'm pickin Hulk and Gladiator primarily because it's WW Hulk "
If it's classic Juggernaut then team 2 wins. If it's current then team 1.
Yes. Gladiator is stronger, much faster, has nano-second reaction time, heat vision, flight. Gladiator would put the beatdown on the Hulk." @HumanNumber said:
" @cattlebattle said:is gladiator above WW hulk!? O.o "" @demifiend: On a Gladiator kick I see.I'm pickin Hulk and Gladiator primarily because it's WW Hulk "Why pick team 1 primarily because of Hulk when Gladiator is far superior? "
" @demifiend said:I believe Hulk took out Gladiator before or maybe Juggernaut. I know it was some big strong guy who appears in X-men comics, granted Hulk isn't in the X men but he has been affiliated in there comics before or in the Marvel U in general.Yes. Gladiator is stronger, much faster, has nano-second reaction time, heat vision, flight. Gladiator would put the beatdown on the Hulk. "" @HumanNumber said:
" @cattlebattle said:is gladiator above WW hulk!? O.o "" @demifiend: On a Gladiator kick I see.I'm pickin Hulk and Gladiator primarily because it's WW Hulk "Why pick team 1 primarily because of Hulk when Gladiator is far superior? "
" @HumanNumber said:There is was one instance when Gladiator nearly bored a hole to Hulks heart with his heat vision and then just stood there as Hulk walked up and blocked his eyes causing feedback on the heat vision. Terrible writing for Gladiator, he didn't use his speed advantage or anything. That's the only fight between them as far as i know." @demifiend said:I believe Hulk took out Gladiator before or maybe Juggernaut. I know it was some big strong guy who appears in X-men comics, granted Hulk isn't in the X men but he has been affiliated in there comics before or in the Marvel U in general. "Yes. Gladiator is stronger, much faster, has nano-second reaction time, heat vision, flight. Gladiator would put the beatdown on the Hulk. "" @HumanNumber said:
" @cattlebattle said:is gladiator above WW hulk!? O.o "" @demifiend: On a Gladiator kick I see.I'm pickin Hulk and Gladiator primarily because it's WW Hulk "Why pick team 1 primarily because of Hulk when Gladiator is far superior? "
" @demifiend said:Yes. Gladiator is stronger, much faster, has nano-second reaction time, heat vision, flight. Gladiator would put the beatdown on the Hulk. "" @HumanNumber said:
" @cattlebattle said:is gladiator above WW hulk!? O.o "" @demifiend: On a Gladiator kick I see.I'm pickin Hulk and Gladiator primarily because it's WW Hulk "Why pick team 1 primarily because of Hulk when Gladiator is far superior? "
" @HumanNumber said:Give Hulk Krytponite and he will beat Superman too... Gladiator stomps Hulk." @demifiend said:Yes. Gladiator is stronger, much faster, has nano-second reaction time, heat vision, flight. Gladiator would put the beatdown on the Hulk. "" @HumanNumber said:
" @cattlebattle said:is gladiator above WW hulk!? O.o "" @demifiend: On a Gladiator kick I see.I'm pickin Hulk and Gladiator primarily because it's WW Hulk "Why pick team 1 primarily because of Hulk when Gladiator is far superior? "
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To the fight:
I assume it is current Juggernaut, since BFR is banned (if it wouldn't be current version, thread would be spite).
So Hulk > Juggy.
And Gladiator vs. Thor is a close fight. If Gladiator will somehow bring Thor to Hulk and they will team up, they should win.
Team 1 wins . I see Jug Losing to the HUlk now or Thor Having the biggest problem of his life with the hulk. while Gladiator beats up on Juggy boy.
Team 2. Thor takes either, and Juggs can last long enough for Thor to come and help with the other one.
since its WWH Juggernaut, i'd say team 2. cyttorak restored all of juggernauts powers for that fight, id basically consider that classic juggs
Team 2 Gladitor would go down to Thor and if I remember correctly Juggs was giving WWH a pretty decent fight(can't recall if he were winning) until the Hulk outsmarted him.
Great fight!
Gladiator has destroyed planets before at full power. He's a planetary level threat.
WWHulk and Juggy battle it out for a long time in my opinion. Adamantium cage ... no where to go but head to head. Think WWHulk wins this one though (Healing Factor + Rage Factor amped all the way to 100 keeps him in the game longer).
I actually think a full confidence level Guardian can possibly put Thor down (no BFR, no God Blast...)
I'm tentatively going team 1 for now.
@marvelrules2011 said:Thor can beat Gladiator and juggernaut can handle hulk thats how Team two winsTeam two stompsGet real, this is an equal fight.
Team 2 wins because they have alot more going for them. Hulk is the best jobber in comics next to Wolverine and Lobo. He has a hard time against Spider-Man and Captain America yet he has defeated Gladiator, Sentry, and Thor. Gladiator has a history of jobbing quite alot. Despite being a Superman clone, he has lost to Gambit and Hulk. Thor is one of the characters that has to be constantly written below his normal power levels in order for the plot to proceed and for the enemies to survive. Do you guys honestly believe the Dark Avengers would survive if they fought Chaos War Thor? Hulk has constantly defeated Thor due to Thor holding back, morals on, and the fact that Thor consideres Hulk his friend and ally in combat and a teammate. "Hulk has always defeated Thor. He'll just do it again"! No. Would Hulk defeat Thor if he was fighting with no morals? If he was spamming his weather manipulation? If he was actually using his speed? If he was actually on the other side? King Thor had his Odin force taken by Stranges magic and can no longer lift his hammer yet he has killed Hulk and Thing in h2h combat. The moment Thor decides not to hold back on Gladiator, did you know what was happening? Thor was casually taking him down with no difficulty. Juggernaut is virtually undefeatable. "No!!! WW Hulk has beaten him"! No. WW Hulk bfred a weaker version of Juggernaut. The classic version of himself is one that Stan Lee described as saying "He is completely invulnerable and undefeatable. He was created to let a characters true power let loose without any consequence. In here, the debates of whoever wins must be how it should be, nothing else. Hulk simply cannot do anything to Juggernaut nor Thor. Gladiator will give Thor a moderate battle but will lose in the end as he possesses no combat feats to suggest that he can even keep up with Thor in a battle. Not to mention Thor can just go nuke the entire field with one of his major magical attacks he has shown in Chaos War. This is why I believe team 2 wins.
Team 2 wins because they have alot more going for them. Hulk is the best jobber in comics next to Wolverine and Lobo. He has a hard time against Spider-man and captain america yet he has defeated Gladiator, Sentry, and Thor. Gladiator has a history of jobbing quite alot. Despite being a Superman clone, he has lost to Gambit and Hulk. Thor is one of the characters that has to be constantly written below his normal power levels in order for the plot to proceed and for the enemies to survive. Do you guys honestly believe the Dark Avengers would survive if they fought Chaos War Thor? Hulk has constantly defeated Thor due to Thor holding back, morals on, and the fact that Thor consideres Hulk his friend and ally in combat and a teammate. "Hulk has always defeated Thor. He'll just do it again"! No. Would Hulk defeat Thor if he was fighting with no morals? If he was spamming his weather manipulation? If he was actually using his speed? If he was actually on the other side? King Thor had his Odin force taken by Stranges magic and can no longer lift his hammer yet he has killed Hulk and Thing in h2h combat. The moment Thor decides not to hold back on Gladiator, did you know what was happening? Thor was casually taking him down with no difficulty. Juggernaut is virtually undefeatable. "No!!! WW Hulk has beaten him"! No. WW Hulk bfred a weaker version of Juggernaut. The classic version of himself is one that Stan Lee described as saying "He is completely invulnerable and undefeatable. He was created to let a characters true power let loose without any consequence. In here, the debates of whoever wins must be how it should be, nothing else. Hulk simply cannot do anything to Juggernaut nor Thor. Gladiator will give Thor a moderate battle but will lose in the end as he possesses no combat feats to suggest that he can even keep up with Thor in a battle. Not to mention Thor can just go nuke the entire field with one of his major magical attacks he has shown in Chaos War. This is why I believe team 2 wins.do not forget wolverine..........
@IZZR said:What kind of reasoning is that?? obviously anyone can dish out statements like that but the fact of the matter is Glad is at full confidence and thats a scary prospect, i remember thinking he was going to rip Vulcan in half@marvelrules2011 said:Thor can beat Gladiator and juggernaut can handle hulk thats how Team two winsTeam two stompsGet real, this is an equal fight.
@marvelrules2011 said:i saw a scan when Thor was handling Gladiator foolish a##@IZZR said:What kind of reasoning is that?? obviously anyone can dish out statements like that but the fact of the matter is Glad is at full confidence and thats a scary prospect, i remember thinking he was going to rip Vulcan in half@marvelrules2011 said:Thor can beat Gladiator and juggernaut can handle hulk thats how Team two winsTeam two stompsGet real, this is an equal fight.
@IZZR said:Youre being so childish ofcourse he has when Kallark has low confidence but when his confidence is high he puts a bad hurting on Thor on occasions and yes ive got scans for it too.@marvelrules2011 said:i saw a scan when Thor was handling Gladiator foolish a##@IZZR said:What kind of reasoning is that?? obviously anyone can dish out statements like that but the fact of the matter is Glad is at full confidence and thats a scary prospect, i remember thinking he was going to rip Vulcan in half@marvelrules2011 said:Thor can beat Gladiator and juggernaut can handle hulk thats how Team two winsTeam two stompsGet real, this is an equal fight.
@marvelrules2011 said:you didnt even show the whole scan thor was beating him on that scan too if you show the whole scan@IZZR said:Youre being so childish ofcourse he has when Kallark has low confidence but when his confidence is high he puts a bad hurting on Thor on occasions and yes ive got scans for it too.@marvelrules2011 said:i saw a scan when Thor was handling Gladiator foolish a##@IZZR said:What kind of reasoning is that?? obviously anyone can dish out statements like that but the fact of the matter is Glad is at full confidence and thats a scary prospect, i remember thinking he was going to rip Vulcan in half@marvelrules2011 said:Thor can beat Gladiator and juggernaut can handle hulk thats how Team two winsTeam two stompsGet real, this is an equal fight.
Posting scans out of context will only backfire on you. By the way, that's Masterson Thor aka Thunderstrike. He's much weaker than Thor and has virtually no experience with his powers yet he actually won with moderate difficulty.
@marvelrules2011 said:Youre being so childish ofcourse he has when Kallark has low confidence but when his confidence is high he puts a bad hurting on Thor on occasions and yes ive got scans for it too.
@IZZR said:i saw a scan when Thor was handling Gladiator foolish a##
@marvelrules2011 said:What kind of reasoning is that?? obviously anyone can dish out statements like that but the fact of the matter is Glad is at full confidence and thats a scary prospect, i remember thinking he was going to rip Vulcan in half
@IZZR said:Thor can beat Gladiator and juggernaut can handle hulk thats how Team two wins
@marvelrules2011 said:Get real, this is an equal fight.
Team two stomps
@IZZR said:if thunderstrike can do that so can Thor team Two ftwPosting scans out of context will only backfire on you. By the way, that's Masterson Thor aka Thunderstrike. He's much weaker than Thor and has virtually no experience with his powers yet he actually won with moderate difficulty.
@marvelrules2011 said:Youre being so childish ofcourse he has when Kallark has low confidence but when his confidence is high he puts a bad hurting on Thor on occasions and yes ive got scans for it too.
@IZZR said:i saw a scan when Thor was handling Gladiator foolish a##
@marvelrules2011 said:What kind of reasoning is that?? obviously anyone can dish out statements like that but the fact of the matter is Glad is at full confidence and thats a scary prospect, i remember thinking he was going to rip Vulcan in half
@IZZR said:Thor can beat Gladiator and juggernaut can handle hulk thats how Team two wins
@marvelrules2011 said:Get real, this is an equal fight.
Team two stomps
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