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#1 Posted by LightningGod67 (374 posts) - - Show Bio
No Prep time.
Location: Savage Land.
Morals are off.
Mongul does not have his rings.
They begin 100 feet away.
KO/Death FTW. 
Who wins?



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#2 Posted by capall2 (1454 posts) - - Show Bio

pre crisis Mongul would mop the floor with Kallark, the current version has been significantly watered down so Kallark should win here...
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#3 Posted by termiteone4ever (12795 posts) - - Show Bio

OH Please gladiator loses

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#4 Posted by _Courage_ (1181 posts) - - Show Bio
@capall2 said:
" pre crisis Mongul would mop the floor with Kallark, the current version has been significantly watered down so Kallark should win here... "
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#5 Posted by PowerHerc (86188 posts) - - Show Bio
@capall2 said:
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                    pre crisis Mongul would mop the floor with Kallark, the current version has been significantly watered down so Kallark should win here...

                   

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Zackly.
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#6 Posted by RiseofApocalypse (4095 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator wins without too much difficulty. 

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#7 Posted by Nefarious (35649 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator wins this fight with some difficulty.

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#8 Posted by MrDirector786 (44087 posts) - - Show Bio

Which version of Mongul?

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#9 Posted by mrtrickster (2944 posts) - - Show Bio

either gladiator bfr mongul quickly or he gets pummeled to death

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#10 Posted by Gremlin From Kremlin (2978 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrtrickster said:
" either gladiator bfr mongul quickly or he gets pummeled to death "
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#11 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator has nanosecond reaction speed - Mongul doesn't. Gladiator stomps.

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#12 Posted by deactivated-5bf70359d2dd1 (16596 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator

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#13 Posted by Assman (1997 posts) - - Show Bio

The only times Glads would struggle somewhat would be if Mongul had his rings, or was in PC mode, which is then unfair to Glads.  Since it's current Mongel, ie Jnr, he goes down to Kallark and gets a beating in the end. 

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#14 Posted by Sy8000 (35186 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator. Mongul gets beat up by Superman for the most part and I'd think Kallark can at least put up a fight.

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#15 Posted by Kingant27 (16907 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: Gladiator, is practically Superman, but with a pro and con that differs from Superman.

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#16 Posted by lordraiden (9663 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator, all day leading up to sunday

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#17 Posted by MasterKungFu (20773 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul

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#18 Posted by Sy8000 (35186 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: Gladiator, is practically Superman, but with a pro and con that differs from Superman.

He's close I'll give him that. I'd say he's pretty much even with New 52 Superman, but pre-new 52 Superman has considerably better feats in most aspects.

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#19 Posted by Loves2spooge (99 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul Jr goes down hard. Mongul Sr will mop the floor with Kallark

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#20 Posted by Mad_Jim (2362 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul stomps .

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#21 Edited by ProteusXManRxis (4446 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul.

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#22 Posted by MasterSkywalker (3609 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul Jr.

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#23 Posted by APEX_pretador (20218 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator stomps

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#24 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

Without his rings, Mongul is generally unimpressive. Clark has fodderised him 3 times with ease so Junior doesn't really have many feats to indicate he can beat Gladiator just because he's a threat to Superman.

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#25 Edited by MasterSkywalker (3609 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Wouldn't Clark fodderize Gladiator too?

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#26 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@masterskywalker: Obviously mate, this is basically who is stronger between 2 characters that get fodderised by Superman ;)

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#27 Posted by Batvibe12 (5637 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator.

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#28 Posted by PhoenixTitan (899 posts) - - Show Bio

BUMP

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#29 Posted by Toratorn (7053 posts) - - Show Bio

Gladiator is only a low mid, he gets turned into paste.

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#30 Posted by EmpressOfDread (12367 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul can take one hit from Superman, Gladiator would die from it.

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#31 Posted by comic_book_fan (11344 posts) - - Show Bio

@toratorn: lol gladiator is the closest thing to actual superman marvel has he has virtually limetless strength and speed tiers are dumb but even if you stick to them like glue no logical person would put gladiator that low he is more powerful than thor and can trade blows with thanos for christ sakes

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#32 Edited by HellionVulcan (7181 posts) - - Show Bio

@empressofdread said:

Mongul can take one hit from Superman, Gladiator would die from it.

Gladiator has taken hits from beings far above Mongul/Superman and lived, he took some punches from the Shi'ar Gods who threw nuclear bomb level punches and all did was give Gladiator a black eye.

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#33 Posted by Toratorn (7053 posts) - - Show Bio

@empressofdread said:

Mongul can take one hit from Superman, Gladiator would die from it.

Gladiator has taken hits from beings far above Mongul/Superman and lived, he took some punches from the Shi'ar Gods who threw nuclear bomb level punches and all did it did Gladiator was give him a black eye.

And yet he couldn't take a hit from a falling building, or an energy pistol, or a blast that didn't even KO street tiers, or a frog with a hammer, or nuclear reactor, or Living Lightning...

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#34 Posted by RogalDorn (19 posts) - - Show Bio

@toratorn: lol gladiator is the closest thing to actual superman marvel has he has virtually limetless strength and speed tiers are dumb but even if you stick to them like glue no logical person would put gladiator that low he is more powerful than thor and can trade blows with thanos for christ sakes

Maybe to Rebirth Superman, he does not have limitless strength or anything remotely close to it, his speed is street tier outside of 1-2 outliers. Gladiator lost a fight to Eric Masterson, who is the weaker version of Thor. And never has Gladiator traded blows with Thanos, congratulations you just made up everything you said.

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#35 Posted by WollfMyth209 (16484 posts) - - Show Bio
@toratorn said:
@hellionvulcan said:
@empressofdread said:

Mongul can take one hit from Superman, Gladiator would die from it.

Gladiator has taken hits from beings far above Mongul/Superman and lived, he took some punches from the Shi'ar Gods who threw nuclear bomb level punches and all did it did Gladiator was give him a black eye.

And yet he couldn't take a hit from a falling building, or an energy pistol, or a blast that didn't even KO street tiers, or a frog with a hammer, or nuclear reactor, or Living Lightning...

Please, Toratron, we only use consistent feats here like that one time where Gladiator sorta busted a planetoid, maybe, and went 100x lightspeed, probably.

Nevermind that he has about 5 embarrassing showings for each sorta impressive feat he has, it doesn't suit our worldview. He fought Thanos, y'know.

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#36 Posted by RogalDorn (19 posts) - - Show Bio

@wollfmyth209: More like 10 embarrassing showing for one decent showing. Also i love when they say "he fought Thanos", yea he once fought a weakened dying Thanos who had trouble fighting Shiar fodder. Without adding proper context saying things like Spiderman fought Thanos and Captain American fought Thanos, both things are true except when you add context it isn't as remotely as impressive as one might think.

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#37 Posted by HellionVulcan (7181 posts) - - Show Bio

@toratorn said:
@hellionvulcan said:
@empressofdread said:

Mongul can take one hit from Superman, Gladiator would die from it.

Gladiator has taken hits from beings far above Mongul/Superman and lived, he took some punches from the Shi'ar Gods who threw nuclear bomb level punches and all did it did Gladiator was give him a black eye.

And yet he couldn't take a hit from a falling building, or an energy pistol, or a blast that didn't even KO street tiers, or a frog with a hammer, or nuclear reactor, or Living Lightning...

He wasn't ko'd despite your hurt feelings, Link the pistol for proper context better yet issue number, a blast that didn't ko street tiers ?, being uppercutted by a frog isn't a bad showing since he wasn't ko'd or harmed, a nuclear reactor filled with his weakness or are you incapable of reading the speech bubbles on panel ? and living lighting was a sneak attack after Gladiator had ran through Wonder Man and Eric Masterson.

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#38 Posted by Toratorn (7053 posts) - - Show Bio

@hellionvulcan: oh, don't worry about scans and citations, I'll post them when I'm home. Too bad that you'll probably just run away and never reply afterwards. You know, like you did every other time I started to throw scans at you?

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#39 Edited by baph (1626 posts) - - Show Bio

@hellionvulcan said:
@toratorn said:
@hellionvulcan said:
@empressofdread said:

Mongul can take one hit from Superman, Gladiator would die from it.

Gladiator has taken hits from beings far above Mongul/Superman and lived, he took some punches from the Shi'ar Gods who threw nuclear bomb level punches and all did it did Gladiator was give him a black eye.

And yet he couldn't take a hit from a falling building, or an energy pistol, or a blast that didn't even KO street tiers, or a frog with a hammer, or nuclear reactor, or Living Lightning...

He wasn't ko'd despite your hurt feelings, Link the pistol for proper context better yet issue number, a blast that didn't ko street tiers ?, being uppercutted by a frog isn't a bad showing since he wasn't ko'd or harmed, a nuclear reactor filled with his weakness or are you incapable of reading the speech bubbles on panel ? and living lighting was a sneak attack after Gladiator had ran through Wonder Man and Eric Masterson.

So, like you?

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#40 Posted by HellionVulcan (7181 posts) - - Show Bio

@baph said:
@hellionvulcan said:
@toratorn said:
@hellionvulcan said:
@empressofdread said:

Mongul can take one hit from Superman, Gladiator would die from it.

Gladiator has taken hits from beings far above Mongul/Superman and lived, he took some punches from the Shi'ar Gods who threw nuclear bomb level punches and all did it did Gladiator was give him a black eye.

And yet he couldn't take a hit from a falling building, or an energy pistol, or a blast that didn't even KO street tiers, or a frog with a hammer, or nuclear reactor, or Living Lightning...

He wasn't ko'd despite your hurt feelings, Link the pistol for proper context better yet issue number, a blast that didn't ko street tiers ?, being uppercutted by a frog isn't a bad showing since he wasn't ko'd or harmed, a nuclear reactor filled with his weakness or are you incapable of reading the speech bubbles on panel ? and living lighting was a sneak attack after Gladiator had ran through Wonder Man and Eric Masterson.

So, like you?

Nah, i understand them but you struggle constantly.

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#41 Edited by HellionVulcan (7181 posts) - - Show Bio

@toratorn said:

@hellionvulcan: oh, don't worry about scans and citations, I'll post them when I'm home. Too bad that you'll probably just run away and never reply afterwards. You know, like you did every other time I started to throw scans at you?

Nah, you and your buddy just repeat debunked comments until i further the embarrassment and you'll double down hence why your buddy keeps getting banned.

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#42 Posted by Supermanthor (18708 posts) - - Show Bio

@toratorn said:

Gladiator is only a low mid, he gets turned into paste.

Mongul can take one hit from Superman, Gladiator would die from it.

but but..................never mind

mongul wins

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#43 Posted by RogalDorn (19 posts) - - Show Bio

@toratorn said:

@hellionvulcan: oh, don't worry about scans and citations, I'll post them when I'm home. Too bad that you'll probably just run away and never reply afterwards. You know, like you did every other time I started to throw scans at you?

Nah, you and your buddy just repeat debunked comments until i further the embarrassment and you'll double down hence why your buddy keeps getting banned.

Getting owned by a perma banned account.

Oof.

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#44 Posted by DESPERO_Z_AMAZO (290 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul beats him to a pulp. Have we forgotten that even a young Colossus has traded blows with Kallark?

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#45 Posted by comic_book_fan (11344 posts) - - Show Bio
hear is him pushing a huge astroid and traveling lightyears in seconds and them outright saying  his speed and strength are practically limitless
hear is him pushing a huge astroid and traveling lightyears in seconds and them outright saying his speed and strength are practically limitless
thanos declairs that gladiator  is the biggest threat among the annihilators and chooses to bfr him rather than fight him like the rest of the team
thanos declairs that gladiator is the biggest threat among the annihilators and chooses to bfr him rather than fight him like the rest of the team
hear he oneshots a weakened  and tired thanos .
hear he oneshots a weakened and tired thanos .

@rogaldorn:

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#46 Posted by Finbaru (59 posts) - - Show Bio

@comic_book_fan: He knocked out a Thanos that was so weakened and tired and literally dying, he couldn't even talk properly.

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He was literally getting punched around by Shiar fodder, so saying he "traded blows with Thanos" is deceptive since they didn't trade any blows and Gladiator just came in and hit him while he was almost on the verge of collapsing unconscious by himself

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Even Shair guard were confused how Thanos was bleeding from their attacks.

Secondly, Thanos BFRing Gladiator is also debunked. Not only is that not 616 Gladiator, stating someone is dangerous is a meaningless statement since by feats he is not. Thanos has in the past said he avoided a fight with Hulk, do you think anyone takes that seriously?

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The third scan is just travel speed. Also saying anyone strength is limitless is pure PIS/hyperbole, only omnipotent beings have limitless strength. Hulk has a bunch of scans saying he has infinite strength, doesn't mean it's nothing more than bullshit.

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Secret Wars II #2

His strength has no limit

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There is no way to measure his strength, he has the power to conquer galaxies

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His strength is incalculable.

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#48 Edited by Toratorn (7053 posts) - - Show Bio

@hellionvulcan: So now I'm home and ready to kick your ass all over again. Let's start, shall we?

Nah, you and your buddy just repeat debunked comments until i further the embarrassment and you'll double down hence why your buddy keeps getting banned.

Yeah, right, and that's why you keep running away from these threads without posting another reply. Like in that Iceman vs HT thread, or Ares/Herc/Thing/Colossus thread, or all the Gladiator threads, or all the IH threads... And just like this thread that you're going to run away from when I post all the scans.

He wasn't ko'd despite your hurt feelings, Link the pistol for proper context better yet issue number,

And case in point: I've already schooled you on both of these things, but you ran away and never replied. So I'm just going to quote myself here.

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Even more bullshit you pulled out of your ass. At the point when Colossus fought Gladiator, Gladiator had 0 good feats. His only achievement prior to that fight was getting one-shot by Corsair in his first goddamn appearance:

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Who would have thought that Gladiator sucked since his debut? The fact that Colossus couldn't beat him and was described narratively as his equal sounds like an extreme low end for Colossus. Especially considering that yes, they both got stomped by a building falling on them:

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In the end, though, it's not they who decide the issue. Rather, it's the ancient, fragile structures around them.

At first, the outcome is in doubt, as shockwaves from skyscraper's collapse thunder across the great crater, to be followed MINUTES LATER BY AN UNNATURAL SILENCE.

SEVERAL MINUTES PASSSED BEFORE GLADIATOR RECOVERED. He was either so goddamn weak that he got KOed by fallen debris and needed minutes to come around, OR he was so goddamn weak he needed several minutes to clear away the rubble that even Spider-Man would effortlessly lift. Pick your poison, my dear Gladiator wanker.

At this point, Gladiator had no achievements exept for being one-shot by Corsair and gettinng KOed by a building. The fact that Colossus couldn't one-shot him at this point is not a testament of how strong Gladiator was and how impressive it was for Colossus to keep up, but an extremely pathetic showing on behalf of Colossus. And yes, it was the same Colossus who got casually one-shot by Juggernaut 30 issues prior to that.

Oh and yeah, the issues are X-Men #107-108 and X-Men #137.

a blast that didn't ko street tiers ?

Yup. Guardians of the Galaxy #1.

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Notice that Gladiator is out cold, but Moondragon and Corsair are totally fine.

being uppercutted by a frog isn't a bad showing since he wasn't ko'd or harmed

Oh yeah, he just mysteriously disappeared from the issue right after Throg owned him. And he wasn't KOed, noooooo, he just stood there and allowed Throg and Skurge go on their business without stopping them. Yeah, that's what happened. Suuuuuuure.

a nuclear reactor filled with his weakness or are you incapable of reading the speech bubbles on panel ?

Wait, I thought that Gladiator can, you know, fly through suns? You know, the same suns that are basically gigantic and monstrously powerful nuclear reactors? How come Gladiator didn't die from radiation when he flew through that sun, huh?

and living lighting was a sneak attack

Oh yeah, because there's a difference between being hit by lightning when you're off-guard and when you're not. Because that's how electricity works. Totally.

had ran through Wonder Man and Eric Masterson.

And by "run through" you must mean "couldn't scratch Wonder Man and resorted to BFRing him despite explicitly trying to kill him and couldn't do shit to Eric either despite, once again, explicitly saying he will kill him".

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Inb4 "Gladiator was holding back" and "but Wonder Man said...".

And I haven't even mentioned that time when Gladiator was one-shot by Gambit and screamed in pain from the explosion that didn't even make Captain America flinch:

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So yeah, now you're free to run away, just like all the other times you ran away from a debate with me.

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#49 Edited by Helloman (29574 posts) - - Show Bio

Mongul wins.

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#50 Posted by comic_book_fan (11344 posts) - - Show Bio

@finbaru: i do take it seriously because hulk has over powered time manipulation and has literally ripped holes in space and time and destroyed domes that celestials couldn't get through all you did really is show why it should be taken seriously.

the gambit thing was an outlier it was a do or die thing the 52 card attack was meant to be gambit's nova blast but was dropped because they knew how silly it was

and you do realise hulk could beat mongul too