Gladiator vs. Martian Manhunter

vs.

all out battle on Mars

well?

MM for the win.

I still belive him to be stronger than Gladiator although some people have posted incidents of Gladiator destroying planets etc. Looking at the majority of his appearances he does not demonstrate the planet destroying power level.

Mm has abilities on par with Superman which would appear to be higher than Gladiators and then all the bonus powers like shape changing (he can have more arms to attack with), invisibility, intangibility and his mental powers.

This versatility, particularly the phasing and mental powers, should provide him with the win.

thought so^^

gladiator is resistant to psychic assaults.

Blackjuggy says:

"gladiator is resistant to psychic assaults."

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The_Creator says:

"MM for the win.I still belive him to be stronger than Gladiator although some people have posted incidents of Gladiator destroying planets etc. Looking at the majority of his appearances he does not demonstrate the planet destroying power level.Mm has abilities on par with Superman which would appear to be higher than Gladiators and then all the bonus powers like shape changing (he can have more arms to attack with), invisibility, intangibility and his mental powers.This versatility, particularly the phasing and mental powers, should provide him with the win."

The_Creator says:

"MM for the win.I still belive him to be stronger than Gladiator although some people have posted incidents of Gladiator destroying planets etc. Looking at the majority of his appearances he does not demonstrate the planet destroying power level.Mm has abilities on par with Superman which would appear to be higher than Gladiators and then all the bonus powers like shape changing (he can have more arms to attack with), invisibility, intangibility and his mental powers.This versatility, particularly the phasing and mental powers, should provide him with the win."

Blackjuggy says:

"gladiator is resistant to psychic assaults."

Resistant does not mean immune.

Martain Manhunter easily, he not only is stronger than Gladiator but he has other factors too. Yes Gladiator could have that will and be physically stronger but when he sees that he is punching right through Martian Manhunter and can't hit him his confidence would drop and he would become weaker. Also MM could use his telepathy to drop Gladiator's cofidence down making him weaker.

Earlier this week there was a MM Vs. Hulk battle and everyone said that MM would win.

Well, in Hulk annual '97, Gladiator got absolutely OWNed by Hulk. It was a fair fight and Glad tried every trick in the book and failed.

Therefore, there's no way Gladiator could beat MM.

Hahaha I know you guy's think I hate Gladiator. But, he would lose this fight, too. XD

Martian Manhunter all the way. MM is just as strong as Superman, got shapeshifting (can make more arms, for example), can be invisible, intagible and is one of the most powerful telepaths alive. He could easily influence the Gladiator during the fight using his telepathy. Let's not forget that Gladiator was defeated by the Fantastic Four, a hologram of Reed Richards and Captain America.

MM,not even superman wants to fight MM,he is just that strong

MM's telepathy is all that matters. Gladiator's powers are completely dependent on his confidence; he has infinite potential and extreme weakness, all rolled into one. Cassandra Nova/Xavier made him wimper like a baby in the Imperial story arc, and based on what people have said about MM, I'm confident he can do the same.

Martian Manhunter would beat Gladiator. Gladiator is really just a weaker variation of Superman in terms of power. He would lose this fight

Kraven says:

"Earlier this week there was a MM Vs. Hulk battle and everyone said that MM would win. Well, in Hulk annual '97, Gladiator got absolutely OWNed by Hulk. It was a fair fight and Glad tried every trick in the book and failed. Therefore, there's no way Gladiator could beat MM."

Hulk really has nothing to do with this fight. Hulk doesn't have heat vision and doesn't move nearly as fast as Gladiator. He only has physical attacks. Against a phasing, flying telepathy, Hulk is severly hanicaped.

Just because A beats B and B beats C does not necessarily mean that A beats C.

MM and Glads are about physical equals.

Gladiator can exploit the Manhunter's weakness with his heat vision.

The Manhunter can exploit Gladiator's weakness with his telepathy.

Who wins here will come down to who attacks first. Assuming no surprised attacks, Gladiator usually will attack first so he will win more than 50% of the time, though probably not much more.

Zoom says:

"Kraven says:

"Earlier this week there was a MM Vs. Hulk battle and everyone said that MM would win. Well, in Hulk annual '97, Gladiator got absolutely OWNed by Hulk. It was a fair fight and Glad tried every trick in the book and failed. Therefore, there's no way Gladiator could beat MM."

Hulk really has nothing to do with this fight. Hulk doesn't have heat vision and doesn't move nearly as fast as Gladiator. He only has physical attacks. Against a phasing, flying telepathy, Hulk is severly hanicaped. Just because A beats B and B beats C does not necessarily mean that A beats C. MM and Glads are about physical equals. Gladiator can exploit the Manhunter's weakness with his heat vision. The Manhunter can exploit Gladiator's weakness with his telepathy. Who wins here will come down to who attacks first. Assuming no surprised attacks, Gladiator usually will attack first so he will win more than 50% of the time, though probably not much more."

Gladitor and MM are physical equals.....I personally don't think so. MM appears to be far more physcially powerful/faster (reactions) than Gladiator based on their entire list of appearances.

MM does not suffer from a true physical/psychological weakness to fire now - not to the level he did before anyway - so there is no significant weakness to exploit.

MM has heat vision to equal Galdiators anyway.

If MM can phase to be immune to physical attacks and still attack with his mental powers, then how will Gladiator counterattack ?

Finally, even if Gladiator managed to get in the first attack (which I doubt), MM can withstand his first attack and then simply phase and mentally counterattack.

I've seen MM phasing to protect himself against Superman's heat vision and then beating him like some kind of super-strong enlogated man.

His telepathy could easily undermine Gladiator if Cassandra Nova did the same.

The_Creator says:

"Zoom says:

"Kraven says:

"Earlier this week there was a MM Vs. Hulk battle and everyone said that MM would win. Well, in Hulk annual '97, Gladiator got absolutely OWNed by Hulk. It was a fair fight and Glad tried every trick in the book and failed. Therefore, there's no way Gladiator could beat MM."

Hulk really has nothing to do with this fight. Hulk doesn't have heat vision and doesn't move nearly as fast as Gladiator. He only has physical attacks. Against a phasing, flying telepathy, Hulk is severly hanicaped. Just because A beats B and B beats C does not necessarily mean that A beats C. MM and Glads are about physical equals. Gladiator can exploit the Manhunter's weakness with his heat vision. The Manhunter can exploit Gladiator's weakness with his telepathy. Who wins here will come down to who attacks first. Assuming no surprised attacks, Gladiator usually will attack first so he will win more than 50% of the time, though probably not much more."

Gladitor and MM are physical equals.....I personally don't think so. MM appears to be far more physcially powerful/faster (reactions) than Gladiator based on their entire list of appearances. MM does not suffer from a true physical/psychological weakness to fire now - not to the level he did before anyway - so there is no significant weakness to exploit. MM has heat vision to equal Galdiators anyway. If MM can phase to be immune to physical attacks and still attack with his mental powers, then how will Gladiator counterattack ? Finally, even if Gladiator managed to get in the first attack (which I doubt), MM can withstand his first attack and then simply phase and mentally counterattack. "

Being physical equals is something that is hard to argue.

Gladiator is supposed to be the physical equal to Superboy (Kal) originally but has evolved into something else as a character. Unless you subscribe to the "DC goes up to 11" principle, they should be pretty close to equal.

As for the whole Trial By Fire "I'm only hurt by flames of passion" thing, did they ever actually implement that? The way I saw it, they said it and then regular fire still hurt him and emotional fire never did.

Granted, he didn't fall apart at the sight of an open flame, but it still significantly hurts him last I checked, probably to the extent of giving Glads a big enough opening for Gladiator to rip him up.

However, I made a mistake when I first thought of this fight. Gladiator does not know MM has a weakness to fire. He does not start with his heat vision. He starts with his fists. J'onn doesn't start with his telepathy either, but he uses it more quickly than Glads uses his heat vision.

Therefore, Martian Manhunter should win.

Gladiator absolutely gets wrecked here, his TP resistance is immensely inconsistent (Oracle/Cass Nova can TP him just fine anyway) and his stats just aren't good enough even for regular J'onn.