Gilgamesh vs Dragonborn

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Once again, you are using gameplay mechanics even for Fate.

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@swagpack said:

Gilgamesh has not shown ability to use techniques that derive from other Heroes, such as Cu's causality reversing attack.

He can use techniques that derive from the weapon itself, which would be Gae Bolg's thrown attack.

On the topic of speedblitzing, he can speedblitz because he is faster and, in Extra CCC, he is aggressive and engages opponents in melee combat.

As I already noted that's not the case here because we're including everything for the Dovahkiin, and that means a Dovahkiin that is a demi-god that can fight the likes of Tsun. Who is comparable to Ysgramor. Who can potentially be an Argonian, and have a connection the Hist. Which is a threat to the likes of Mehrunes Dagon. As well as the valiant of Sovngarde who exist beyond the concepts of time, and space. So, speed would be irrelevant for them at that point.

To say nothing of the fact omnipresence across the multiverse can be achieved by magic users who are nowhere near as powerful as the Dovahkiin. As technically he is an Aedra for having the spirit of a dragon, and has read the Oghma Infinium. Which by default makes people into practical demi-gods. Which means he scales to the speed, and ridiculousness we see in the likes of such characters.

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@swagpack said:

Once again, you are using gameplay mechanics even for Fate.

To explain How Gilgamesh doesn't move that Fast in Extella? You know the only Extra Title that Showcase's his actual combat speed and travel speed without Outlier's or a ship of Light?

In which case all Bullshit aside Gilgamesh is Faster then Dragonborn no wank he Isn't however Fast enough to Gtfo of the Range of a Lore thu'um nor will he tank anything a composite Dragonborn will decide to use on him and nor will he take the Zasshu serious enough to realize DB Can end this fight in seconds.

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Jesus, you are worse than a child. Goodbye.

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@swagpack said:

Gilgamesh has not shown ability to use techniques that derive from other Heroes, such as Cu's causality reversing attack.

He can use techniques that derive from the weapon itself, which would be Gae Bolg's thrown attack.

On the topic of speedblitzing, he can speedblitz because he is faster and, in Extra CCC, he is aggressive and engages opponents in melee combat.

As I already noted that's not the case here because we're including everything for the Dovahkiin, and that means a Dovahkiin that is a demi-god that can fight the likes of Tsun. Who is comparable to Ysgramor. Who can potentially be an Argonian, and have a connection the Hist. Which is a threat to the likes of Mehrunes Dagon. As well as the valiant of Sovngarde who exist beyond the concepts of time, and space. So, speed would be irrelevant for them at that point.

To say nothing of the fact omnipresence across the multiverse can be achieved by magic users who are nowhere near as powerful as the Dovahkiin. As technically he is an Aedra for having the spirit of a dragon, and has read the Oghma Infinium. Which by default makes people into practical demi-gods. Which means he scales to the speed, and ridiculousness we see in the likes of such characters.

Technically speaking Composite Dovakiin is the Ultimate Paradox right? meaning he is all races and both a werewolf and Vampire Lord decked with either Ebony Mail or some stupidly OP enchanted armor is a Master of all forms of Magic stealth and the Thu'um and should have the Daedric prince's on speed Dial pretty much?

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@swagpack said:

Jesus, you are worse than a child. Goodbye.

Pretty sure a Child would just Scream at you that your wrong and not post evidence as to why instead just be really annoying and keep telling you, You are wrong.

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Powerlevels are different in CCC and Extella. Gilgamesh only went faster than light when he got the origin power up in CCC. He no longer has it in Extella.

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Powerlevels are different in CCC and Extella. Gilgamesh only went faster than light when he got the origin power up in CCC. He no longer has it in Extella.

Extella retconned Gilgamesh as archer class aswell it was also Revealed the thing that beat BB and Kiara Wouldn't even bother Velber, Gilgamesh only went MFTL with a ship of Light i have the Translation page Saved as a Bookmark.

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#710  Edited By Boogeymonster

@sainguinexshadow said:
@boogeymonster said:
@swagpack said:

Gilgamesh has not shown ability to use techniques that derive from other Heroes, such as Cu's causality reversing attack.

He can use techniques that derive from the weapon itself, which would be Gae Bolg's thrown attack.

On the topic of speedblitzing, he can speedblitz because he is faster and, in Extra CCC, he is aggressive and engages opponents in melee combat.

As I already noted that's not the case here because we're including everything for the Dovahkiin, and that means a Dovahkiin that is a demi-god that can fight the likes of Tsun. Who is comparable to Ysgramor. Who can potentially be an Argonian, and have a connection the Hist. Which is a threat to the likes of Mehrunes Dagon. As well as the valiant of Sovngarde who exist beyond the concepts of time, and space. So, speed would be irrelevant for them at that point.

To say nothing of the fact omnipresence across the multiverse can be achieved by magic users who are nowhere near as powerful as the Dovahkiin. As technically he is an Aedra for having the spirit of a dragon, and has read the Oghma Infinium. Which by default makes people into practical demi-gods. Which means he scales to the speed, and ridiculousness we see in the likes of such characters.

Technically speaking Composite Dovakiin is the Ultimate Paradox right? meaning he is all races and both a werewolf and Vampire Lord decked with either Ebony Mail or some stupidly OP enchanted armor is a Master of all forms of Magic stealth and the Thu'um and should have the Daedric prince's on speed Dial pretty much?

Basically yeah, makes you wonder what's going to happen when he dies. Since nearly ever Daedric Prince has named him their champion, and that means nearly every single one of them is going to want him in their realm. Which is just not going to be possible, and might even lead to a colossal war in Oblivion over who is to have ownership of his soul.

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See now why i didn't post shit for Gilgamesh on my Thread with Goku Black and Gilgamesh vs Ragna the Bloodedge and Accelerator? I deal with Gilgamesh wank alot and have to attempt to either Debunk it or attempt to find pain in the ass translation's.

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@jashro44@jedixman I think this thread needs to be closed, skim through the pages and you can see the trash talks and flames that went on in here. I think that Dragonborn threads should get the DBZ treatment, they always end up in flames.

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@sainguinexshadow said:
@boogeymonster said:
@swagpack said:

Gilgamesh has not shown ability to use techniques that derive from other Heroes, such as Cu's causality reversing attack.

He can use techniques that derive from the weapon itself, which would be Gae Bolg's thrown attack.

On the topic of speedblitzing, he can speedblitz because he is faster and, in Extra CCC, he is aggressive and engages opponents in melee combat.

As I already noted that's not the case here because we're including everything for the Dovahkiin, and that means a Dovahkiin that is a demi-god that can fight the likes of Tsun. Who is comparable to Ysgramor. Who can potentially be an Argonian, and have a connection the Hist. Which is a threat to the likes of Mehrunes Dagon. As well as the valiant of Sovngarde who exist beyond the concepts of time, and space. So, speed would be irrelevant for them at that point.

To say nothing of the fact omnipresence across the multiverse can be achieved by magic users who are nowhere near as powerful as the Dovahkiin. As technically he is an Aedra for having the spirit of a dragon, and has read the Oghma Infinium. Which by default makes people into practical demi-gods. Which means he scales to the speed, and ridiculousness we see in the likes of such characters.

Technically speaking Composite Dovakiin is the Ultimate Paradox right? meaning he is all races and both a werewolf and Vampire Lord decked with either Ebony Mail or some stupidly OP enchanted armor is a Master of all forms of Magic stealth and the Thu'um and should have the Daedric prince's on speed Dial pretty much?

Basically yeah, makes you wonder what's going to happen when dies. Since nearly ever Daedric Prince has named him their champion, and that means nearly every single one of them is going to want him in their realm. Which is just not going to be possible, and might even lead to a colossal war in Oblivion over who is to have ownership of it.

Free for all with Sheogorath trolling and Winning in the end in some Ridiculous method to be sure.

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@theorder14 said:

Powerlevels are different in CCC and Extella. Gilgamesh only went faster than light when he got the origin power up in CCC. He no longer has it in Extella.

Extella retconned Gilgamesh as archer class aswell it was also Revealed the thing that beat BB and Kiara Wouldn't even bother Velber, Gilgamesh only went MFTL with a ship of Light i have the Translation page Saved as a Bookmark.

I know exactly which feats ur talking about and he went FTL without the ship once he got the origin power up.Nowhere in this video did they mention anything about ship of light

https://youtu.be/6xRfHpsZMxY?t=68

No mention of ship of light in the link above. This was when he got hold of his origin power

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@the_red_viper: you might aswell make that Claim for the Nasuverse thread's too.

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#716  Edited By Boogeymonster
@boogeymonster said:
@sainguinexshadow said:
@boogeymonster said:
@swagpack said:

Gilgamesh has not shown ability to use techniques that derive from other Heroes, such as Cu's causality reversing attack.

He can use techniques that derive from the weapon itself, which would be Gae Bolg's thrown attack.

On the topic of speedblitzing, he can speedblitz because he is faster and, in Extra CCC, he is aggressive and engages opponents in melee combat.

As I already noted that's not the case here because we're including everything for the Dovahkiin, and that means a Dovahkiin that is a demi-god that can fight the likes of Tsun. Who is comparable to Ysgramor. Who can potentially be an Argonian, and have a connection the Hist. Which is a threat to the likes of Mehrunes Dagon. As well as the valiant of Sovngarde who exist beyond the concepts of time, and space. So, speed would be irrelevant for them at that point.

To say nothing of the fact omnipresence across the multiverse can be achieved by magic users who are nowhere near as powerful as the Dovahkiin. As technically he is an Aedra for having the spirit of a dragon, and has read the Oghma Infinium. Which by default makes people into practical demi-gods. Which means he scales to the speed, and ridiculousness we see in the likes of such characters.

Technically speaking Composite Dovakiin is the Ultimate Paradox right? meaning he is all races and both a werewolf and Vampire Lord decked with either Ebony Mail or some stupidly OP enchanted armor is a Master of all forms of Magic stealth and the Thu'um and should have the Daedric prince's on speed Dial pretty much?

Basically yeah, makes you wonder what's going to happen when dies. Since nearly ever Daedric Prince has named him their champion, and that means nearly every single one of them is going to want him in their realm. Which is just not going to be possible, and might even lead to a colossal war in Oblivion over who is to have ownership of it.

Free for all with Sheogorath trolling and Winning in the end in some Ridiculous method to be sure.

OR MAYBE THAT WAS THE DOVAHKIIN'S PLAN ALL ALONG

ALL ACCORDING TO HIS KEIKAKU

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@sainguinexshadow said:
@theorder14 said:

Powerlevels are different in CCC and Extella. Gilgamesh only went faster than light when he got the origin power up in CCC. He no longer has it in Extella.

Extella retconned Gilgamesh as archer class aswell it was also Revealed the thing that beat BB and Kiara Wouldn't even bother Velber, Gilgamesh only went MFTL with a ship of Light i have the Translation page Saved as a Bookmark.

I know exactly which feats ur talking about and he went FTL without the ship once he got the origin power up.Nowhere in this video did they mention anything about ship of light

https://youtu.be/6xRfHpsZMxY?t=68

No mention of ship of light in the link above. This was when he got hold of his origin power

The feat your Refering to is the Normal end against BB you get the Origin code in both End's Normal end Gilgamesh appears to Fly back MFTL speeds with no ship.

True end Gilgamesh reveal's he used a ship of Light when Kiara BFR him with BB's technique.

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@sainguinexshadow: yeah whatever happened to that thread at the end?

I don't think anyone know's shit about team 2 so they haven't bothered Commenting or all that's been Said team 1 win's with no explanation why.

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OR MAYBE THAT WAS THE DOVAHKIIN'S PLAN ALL ALONG

ALL ACCORDING TO HIS KEIKAKU

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"Cue Light Yagami theme"

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#722  Edited By Theorder14

@theorder14 said:
@sainguinexshadow said:
@theorder14 said:

Powerlevels are different in CCC and Extella. Gilgamesh only went faster than light when he got the origin power up in CCC. He no longer has it in Extella.

Extella retconned Gilgamesh as archer class aswell it was also Revealed the thing that beat BB and Kiara Wouldn't even bother Velber, Gilgamesh only went MFTL with a ship of Light i have the Translation page Saved as a Bookmark.

I know exactly which feats ur talking about and he went FTL without the ship once he got the origin power up.Nowhere in this video did they mention anything about ship of light

https://youtu.be/6xRfHpsZMxY?t=68

No mention of ship of light in the link above. This was when he got hold of his origin power

The feat your Refering to is the Normal end against BB you get the Origin code in both End's Normal end Gilgamesh appears to Fly back MFTL speeds with no ship.

True end Gilgamesh reveal's he used a ship of Light when Kiara BFR him with BB's technique.

Yea but that doesn't mean he used it in his fight against BB. Does that make sense to you that Archer,Caster and Saber all can travel at faster than light once they got the origin power up yet ur saying that Gilgamesh cannot do that only because he used the ship of light in this fight? I don't buy it. All you have is speculation.

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@boogeymonster: all going According to Dragonborn's Keikaku for Daedric prince Free for all.

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@theorder14 said:
@sainguinexshadow said:
@theorder14 said:
@sainguinexshadow said:
@theorder14 said:

Powerlevels are different in CCC and Extella. Gilgamesh only went faster than light when he got the origin power up in CCC. He no longer has it in Extella.

Extella retconned Gilgamesh as archer class aswell it was also Revealed the thing that beat BB and Kiara Wouldn't even bother Velber, Gilgamesh only went MFTL with a ship of Light i have the Translation page Saved as a Bookmark.

I know exactly which feats ur talking about and he went FTL without the ship once he got the origin power up.Nowhere in this video did they mention anything about ship of light

https://youtu.be/6xRfHpsZMxY?t=68

No mention of ship of light in the link above. This was when he got hold of his origin power

The feat your Refering to is the Normal end against BB you get the Origin code in both End's Normal end Gilgamesh appears to Fly back MFTL speeds with no ship.

True end Gilgamesh reveal's he used a ship of Light when Kiara BFR him with BB's technique.

Yea but that doesn't mean he used it in his fight against BB. Does that make sense to you that Archer,Caster and Saber all can travel at faster than light once they got the origin power up yet ur saying that Gilgamesh cannot do that only because he used the ship of light in this fight? I don't buy it. All you have is speculation.

Archer's MFTL is via his Origin code and he claim's he don't know how it was Done this heavily implys they Do not normally move at the Speed and you obtain each char's Origin Code before the Dream Battle's where you engage regular Stay night Archer and Gilgamesh doesn't immediately paste him he actually proclaim's Rin used archer to Give Gilgamesh a Good fight.

Saber Nero used Love to MFTL cause LOL reasons?

Caster uses Magic and Reduces the Distance to 0 after claming some crap like Zero distance Love showing Again this isn't speed for her.

Gilgamesh used a Ship of Light said so by himself.

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@theorder14: also it's the Same Move BB does that Kiara does and Gilgamesh outright say's if there is a Technique capable of sending someone to the Edge of the Galaxy i would have a Np to counter it meaning if he Got flung he would just use his ship of Light to come back he doesn't say i'm Fast as F*** Boi if you Flung me i would fly back Cause i'm Gilgamesh and i'm the Rules.

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It's a damn shame really that thread has Massive potential if only people could Expand there Horizon's i might bump it 2 more times.

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@sainguinexshadow:

Gilgamesh used a Ship of Light said so by himself.

He did against Kiara but you clearly do not see any ships of light in this scene against BB. Is the ship invisible all of the sudden?

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@sainguinexshadow:

Gilgamesh used a Ship of Light said so by himself.

He did against Kiara but you clearly do not see any ships of light in this scene against BB. Is the ship invisible all of the sudden?

No it's to add suspense for it to be Revealed in the True ending because otherwise if it was the Exact Same scene that the Normal end had most players would be like waste of Time why did i play this again exact same thing happened wtf is this a reskin???

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@theorder14: keep in mind Gilgamesh is still Origin Code in this Translation.

Ship of Light Noble phantasm that allows him to travel faster than the speed of light. It allows him to instantly return after he is sent to the edge of the Moon Cell's Imaginary Space hundreds of lightyears away. When the feat is questioned, he mentions that it is obvious that he would have a Noble Phantasm corresponding to a technique that sends the target to the edge of space, as his vault holds the origin of human wisdom.

Gilgamesh Conversation with Kiara about the event in Question,

Kiara: What?! But you were sent to the end of the galaxy

Kiara: Did you Fly faster then Light?

Gil: Idiot! Did you think i didn't have a noble phantasm capable of something like this?

After battle Translation.

-System is Rebooting-

Sakura: senpai please get out of there quickly!

Sakura: it's all thank's to you

Gil tells you were almost out of time but that's a challenge fitting for you both.

Gil : Run, master to the door of the underworld itself

Gil is ashamed of having to depend on a women to save him.

You reach the border of the mooncell.

Gil kicks the wall trying to destroy it but can't LOL

The wall of doom get's closer

That's all i'm posting for this Translation.

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@theorder14: note: Gilgamesh is in Panic Mode and tell's you that Both you and him are Almost out of time and he is Telling you to run if Gilgamesh was MFTL he Wouldn't be anywhere near the Deletion wall he would already be at the Goal he is not and again his Status of his Origin state hasn't been reverted that's what the Deletion wall was Doing Getting rid of Anomalies in the Mooncell and returning everything to it's Normal state.

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We also know for a fact that the Deletion wall isn't MFTL Otherwise Hakuno's human ass Definitely Wouldn't have Been able to outrun it the Fact Gilgamesh say's that you are Both out of time Make it seem like this.

Deletion wall<<Hakuno<Gilgamesh or Shorter time Frame and Distance so Possibly Deletion wall<Hakuno<<Gilgamesh.

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@sainguinexshadow: well it is. I've seen accelerator in forums some times but people just don't know anything about ragna at all. I know some people here who play arc system games but due to the top noch gameplay most of them focus on that alone and don't really bother with the story, which is funny because arc sys really puts lot of efforts in the story and mangas related to the story.

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@fat_hobo389 said:

@sainguinexshadow: well it is. I've seen accelerator in forums some times but people just don't know anything about ragna at all. I know some people here who play arc system games but due to the top noch gameplay most of them focus on that alone and don't really bother with the story, which is funny because arc sys really puts lot of efforts in the story and mangas related to the story.

Yep especially with Guilty Gear and Base sol Dishing out a Star lvl Punch.

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Dragonborn stomps the verse with a song.

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Damn, 732 comments? That's some number.

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#737  Edited By Mr-Otaku

My Dragonborn would wreck him with a finger tap m8. lmao

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Dragonborn casually Stomps that verse with just a simple word. he would literally be their new god of the Verse.

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#739  Edited By Kepler70

Hey guys, it's Kepler78 here, just want to add that I copy and pasted some of the arguments from this link: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:772089?useskin=oasis

Credit to Mora8

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#741  Edited By zgtfreak

Damn, this an old thread. Super outdated. Gilgamesh wills him to die.

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Composite Gilgamesh wins with low-difficulty

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Gilgamesh clap his hands together and Dragonborn suddenly dies. The end.

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