Proof on why Gilgamesh stomps and is 8D:
CCC Genesis Mystic Code Gilgamesh cannot be compared to his planet level Fate counterpart, as Extraverse works entirely different. CCC Gilgamesh is at least multiversal. He defeated BB, who became a higher dimensional being that fused with a device that simulates and physically stores infinite possible futures. BB is also able to destroy reality after fusing with the Moon Cell and has shown to do so. Even Hakuno is capable of reshaping reality when fusing with the Moon Cell.
"Rani :: The Holy Grail is an observational device that simulates the future of the Earth, and stores those records continuously, at regular intervals. It has been doing so since the beginning of human history. Though it is supposed, an infinity of futures are recorded here in the moon. To obtain the Moon Cell means to be able to search out the future you wish for from among all of those, and put it into effect." < < < https://tsukinoura.wordpress.com/2014/10/14/entry-141-ellipsis/
We learn from Twice Piecemen in Fate/Extra (the game before Fate/Extra CCC) that the futures that Rani speak of are indeed infinite. Also simulating and storing infinite possibilities ALONE is storing infinite different outcomes, which is what timelines are, infinite different outcomes. Not only that, but storing something that is infinite is infinite, period. The Moon Cell has complete rule over it's domain/reality, meaning it can easily erase said infinite physically stored futures as easy as it simulates and stores them. BB fusing with the Moon Cell completely means she also has this power; so BB can create and erase something of infinite size. These possibilities also exist because the Moon Cell not only simulates, but stores them, making these possibilities exist to some degree like timelines, since they can be stored as if they exist. Even if you say they aren't similar to timelines, storing something of infinite size is infinite (as I said before).
Gilgamesh probably wins if he uses SNI to keep up with their speed and Ea as it is stated to be "the first and strongest NP." putting it beyond the likes of this.
If CCC is allowed here, then we have a multiverse buster NP that also destroys reality with indeterminably high stats.
But Normal Gilgamesh arguably could have a multiversal feat with Ea like when he fought Tiamat who's body remains makes up pretty much all of the Nasuverse which is an infinite multiverse.
She is then slain by Enki's son, the storm-god Marduk, but not before she had brought forth the monsters of the Mesopotamian pantheon, including the first dragons, whose bodies she filled with "poison instead of blood". Marduk then forms the heavens and the Earth from her divided body.
"And the lord stood upon Tiamat's hinder parts,
And with his merciless club he smashed her skull.
He cut through the channels of her blood,
And he made the North wind bear it away into secret places."
Slicing Tiamat in half, he made from her ribs the vault of heaven and earth. Her weeping eyes became the sources of the Tigris and the Euphrates, her tail became the Milky Way.
Sure, she was holding back on some level with her self-restraint skill. But one cannot deny that he absolutely killed her. This stills make him low galaxy level at the very least in AP.
He hit her so hard with Ea that she had once again reached imaginary number space (Nasuverse place for things that don't exist).
GoB also has some really good hax and effects here that could pose some trouble for the team.
I'd give Gilgamesh the majority if we are talking about with CCC included, 50/50 odds if not.
I disagree, Gilgamesh is absolutely the top tier of what a servant can be as his power serves as the basis for all other powers in his verse. Don't get me wrong, SSB Vegeta and Android 17 is strong and all, but in a fight against Gilgamesh, he's in over their head. Being able to see the past and future unobstructed and being able to stop all mage craft only gets you so far against Gilgamesh who's strongest NP is capable of destroying the entire Multiverse . Sha Naqba Imuru is also the perfect counter to them as it basically makes Gilgamesh see every possible thing that his opponent could do. I believe that the two EX rank skills would cancel out in this fight though to make things fair and where does that leave us? A really Good Saiyan fighting the King of all Heroes and he's not jobbing this time.
Gilgamesh wins all matches here 10/10
Bruh that is like Saiyan Saga levels of power. Fodder to DBS low tiers. Now show me Gil doing something like this ^
I disagree, Gilgamesh is absolutely the top tier of what a servant can be as his power serves as the basis for all other powers in his verse. Don't get me wrong, SSB Vegeta and Android 17 is strong and all, but in a fight against Gilgamesh, he's in over their head. Being able to see the past and future unobstructed and being able to stop all mage craft only gets you so far against Gilgamesh who's strongest NP is capable of destroying the entire planet. Sha Naqba Imuru is also the perfect counter to them as it basically makes Gilgamesh see every possible thing that his opponent could do. I believe that the two EX rank skills would cancel out in this fight though to make things fair and where does that leave us? A really Good Saiyan fighting the King of all Heroes and he's not jobbing this time.
Gilgamesh wins all matches here 10/10
Yeah tho game feats like Xenoverse and Heroes' would be spite against the whole verse.
Not that Super Saiyan God and Beerus' casual feat isn't.
@lordballer: lmao and so what? The punch clash from beerus and goku was going to destroy the entire universe 7 macrosome.
And there are four to give infinite universe sized dimension universe 7
A macrocosm is just a word for a very large universe. Universe 7 is not an infinite universe as we see it all contained in little orbs. It has one main alternative dimension such as otherworld. Plus, being a mappable verse with clear borders automatically makes your verse not infinite.
DBZ is at most a 5-D verse if we make the world of void infinite. Fate at its baseline is a 6-D verse due to statements about Avalon.
The scabbard dissipates into countless tiny particles in the air and engulfs the user to become a "portable fortress" that shuts out all interference. It is the Bounded Field of the tranquil domain of fairies that keeps out all filth from the outside world, and allows nothing to harm the tranquil King that stands in the land of Avalon. The individual is shielded from all destructive interference in the physical realm, transliners from parallel worlds, and multidimensional communication as far as the sixth dimension. It is on the level of true magic, an actual true magic in itself, that transcends all magecraft, and not even the Five Magics can overcome the barrier.
That's an extremely toxic low-ball that isn't true at all. If you really wanted to low-ball you'd be like "only 1/5th of Earth level." but the Shockwaves clearly indicate that it's clearly impacting a radius that far expands the Earth. We don't even see how much wind is flowing upwards from it.
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