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#1 Posted by claws (5266 posts) - - Show Bio

who would win

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#2 Posted by Zoom (14751 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends on which Ghost Rider, which Flash, where they are fighting and the rules of the battle.

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#3 Posted by LordCosmicKing (2717 posts) - - Show Bio

only way i see flash winning is with BFR via IMP punch if he is at full speed in this fight..

i dont see him KOing the spirit of  vengeance let alone killing him.

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#4 Posted by Shonen (828 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't flash just send ghost rider into the speed force ?

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#5 Posted by claws (5266 posts) - - Show Bio

ok the ghhostrider is johny blaze
flash is wallywest
and it takes place in the middle of nowhere
and its fight to the death

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#6 Posted by LordCosmicKing (2717 posts) - - Show Bio

does the wally have his current speed level?

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#7 Posted by King Saturn (221181 posts) - - Show Bio
I dont know how GR could get Wally to slow down for him to actually do anything to him...
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#8 Posted by ecsnclr (4282 posts) - - Show Bio

Hell fire can't be put out and it wil fry Wally

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#9 Posted by claws (5266 posts) - - Show Bio

lordcosmickingsaid
does the wally have his current speed level?
i guess

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#10 Posted by ecsnclr (4282 posts) - - Show Bio
claws said:
"lordcosmickingsaid
does the wally have his current speed level?
i guess"
Quote,Quote,Quote !
it's there for a reason LOL
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#11 Posted by Nighthunter (29571 posts) - - Show Bio

stalemate, Ghost rider can't hit Flash, Flash can't injure him

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#12 Posted by claws (5266 posts) - - Show Bio
ecsnclr said:
"claws said:
"lordcosmickingsaid
does the wally have his current speed level?
i guess"
Quote,Quote,Quote !
it's there for a reason LOL
"

i get it
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#13 Posted by ecsnclr (4282 posts) - - Show Bio
claws said:
"ecsnclr said:
"claws said:
"lordcosmickingsaid
does the wally have his current speed level?
i guess"
Quote,Quote,Quote !
it's there for a reason LOL
"

i get it"

LOL
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#14 Posted by claws (5266 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"stalemate, Ghost rider can't hit Flash, Flash can't injure him"

would his bike be fast enough to catch up to him
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#15 Posted by Nighthunter (29571 posts) - - Show Bio
claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"stalemate, Ghost rider can't hit Flash, Flash can't injure him"

would his bike be fast enough to catch up to him"
nope
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#16 Posted by ecsnclr (4282 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"stalemate, Ghost rider can't hit Flash, Flash can't injure him"

would his bike be fast enough to catch up to him"
nope"

Actuly if it's modern GR then i think it can
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#17 Posted by Nighthunter (29571 posts) - - Show Bio

how fast is the bike?

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#18 Posted by claws (5266 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"how fast is the bike?"

i think its fast enough to move across water
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#19 Posted by Nighthunter (29571 posts) - - Show Bio
claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"how fast is the bike?"

i think its fast enough to move across water"
and flash has gone above the light speed...
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#20 Posted by ecsnclr (4282 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"how fast is the bike?"

Not sure if it can reach light speed but like i said not sure because it can go very fast now when it travels you can see it and time stands still around him
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#21 Posted by claws (5266 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"how fast is the bike?"

i think its fast enough to move across water"
and flash has gone above the light speed..."

then its an statemate
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#22 Posted by ecsnclr (4282 posts) - - Show Bio
claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"how fast is the bike?"

i think its fast enough to move across water"
and flash has gone above the light speed..."

then its an statemate"
No.1 Wally can't any more
No.2 I think GR can go past light speed now
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#23 Posted by claws (5266 posts) - - Show Bio
ecsnclr said:
"claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"how fast is the bike?"

i think its fast enough to move across water"
and flash has gone above the light speed..."

then its an statemate"
No.1 Wally can't any more
No.2 I think GR can go past light speed now"
when
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#24 Posted by ecsnclr (4282 posts) - - Show Bio
claws said:
"ecsnclr said:
"claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"how fast is the bike?"

i think its fast enough to move across water"
and flash has gone above the light speed..."

then its an statemate"
No.1 Wally can't any more
No.2 I think GR can go past light speed now"
when"

Wally lost alot of his speed i know he did
And modern Hell Fire has more energy and power (both power and Strength) than power cosmic
and the Bike runs on it ! i'm sure he has gon to light speed
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#25 Posted by claws (5266 posts) - - Show Bio
ecsnclr said:
"claws said:
"ecsnclr said:
"claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"how fast is the bike?"

i think its fast enough to move across water"
and flash has gone above the light speed..."

then its an statemate"
No.1 Wally can't any more
No.2 I think GR can go past light speed now"
when"

Wally lost alot of his speed i know he did
And modern Hell Fire has more energy and power (both power and Strength) than power cosmic
and the Bike runs on it ! i'm sure he has gon to light speed"
so ghostrider wins
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#26 Posted by ecsnclr (4282 posts) - - Show Bio
claws said:
"ecsnclr said:
"claws said:
"ecsnclr said:
"claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"how fast is the bike?"

i think its fast enough to move across water"
and flash has gone above the light speed..."

then its an statemate"
No.1 Wally can't any more
No.2 I think GR can go past light speed now"
when"

Wally lost alot of his speed i know he did
And modern Hell Fire has more energy and power (both power and Strength) than power cosmic
and the Bike runs on it ! i'm sure he has gon to light speed"
so ghostrider wins"
I would imagine so yes
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#27 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4853 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally depowerment is only temporary
Come Flash Rebirth he will be back at full power

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#28 Posted by Nighthunter (29571 posts) - - Show Bio
ecsnclr said:
"claws said:
"ecsnclr said:
"claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"claws said:
"Nighthunter said:
"how fast is the bike?"

i think its fast enough to move across water"
and flash has gone above the light speed..."

then its an statemate"
No.1 Wally can't any more
No.2 I think GR can go past light speed now"
when"

Wally lost alot of his speed i know he did
And modern Hell Fire has more energy and power (both power and Strength) than power cosmic
and the Bike runs on it ! i'm sure he has gon to light speed"
he had lost it on the last arc of his comic, he could barely reach sound speed, considering that Final Crisis is after that and there he moves with ease "1000 times the speed of sound" I think he is alright now...
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#29 Posted by TheDrifter (24811 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalemate

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#30 Posted by ecsnclr (4282 posts) - - Show Bio
TheDrifter said:
"Stalemate"
Yer i'm gonna say that too but i do think GR will win
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#31 Posted by Zoom (14751 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally already got his powers back.

Ghost Rider probably wins.  Flash can't kill the Rider.  Rider can get lucky or hit Wally with a huge blast of hellfire around himself.

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#32 Edited by Zoom (14751 posts) - - Show Bio

And ecsnclr is incorrect.

Ghost Rider cannot move anywhere near the speed of light.  And him driving over water has nothing to do with his speed.  It's just something his bike can do.

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#33 Posted by Magicalmoment (1507 posts) - - Show Bio
Zoom said:
"And ecsnclr is incorrect.

Ghost Rider cannot move anywhere near the speed of light.  And him driving over water has nothing to do with his speed.  It's just something his bike can do."

yea,zoom is correct,ghost rider's bike has mystical properties which allows him to ride on water
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#34 Posted by ecsnclr (4282 posts) - - Show Bio
Zoom said:
"And ecsnclr is incorrect.

Ghost Rider cannot move anywhere near the speed of light.  And him driving over water has nothing to do with his speed.  It's just something his bike can do."

His speed would not come in handy against Wally anyway since i think he can reach light speed but i never said anywhere
he needs to build up his speed and god knows how long it would take to get that fast but i think he is capable of it.
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#35 Edited by mira (1545 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghostrider. Or at least I think.

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#36 Posted by Zoom (14751 posts) - - Show Bio
ecsnclr said:
"His speed would not come in handy against Wally anyway since i think he can reach light speed but i never said anywhere
he needs to build up his speed and god knows how long it would take to get that fast but i think he is capable of it."
Why would you think that?  When has Ghost Rider ever given you the impression that he could move at light speeds?

When has he ever given you the impression that he could move at even 1/10th of the speed of light?
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#37 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5592 posts) - - Show Bio

Could an infinite mass punch send Ghost Rider to the moon?

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#38 Posted by claws (5266 posts) - - Show Bio

unless GRs bike is fast enough to catch up with him than its an statemate

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#39 Posted by The_Scourge (5335 posts) - - Show Bio
Zoom said:
Ghost Rider probably wins.  Flash can't kill the Rider.  Rider can get lucky or hit Wally with a huge blast of hellfire around himself."
Exactly what I was thinking
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#40 Posted by Donnieman v5.1 (44210 posts) - - Show Bio

This is most likely a stalemate.

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#41 Edited by Shot (2975 posts) - - Show Bio

bump.

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#42 Posted by Carter_esque (6705 posts) - - Show Bio
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#43 Edited by mtuske (3246 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump. Curious on current opinions.

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#44 Posted by icecold14 (6767 posts) - - Show Bio

GR with penance stare humiliates flash lol

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#45 Posted by The_Titan_Lord (8165 posts) - - Show Bio

GR. Flash dies of old age.

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#46 Posted by Dredeuced (6437 posts) - - Show Bio

GR with penance stare humiliates flash lol

Why would Penance Stare work on The Flash? Like, for one, how would he get Flash to stand still and stare him in the eyes for it to work, and secondly, Flash does not cause lots of emotional and physical pain to others, considering he's got the cleanest history of any hero I can imagine.

That said I had this argument with Cadence/Pokergeist/whoever he is now and we determined that, if he unleashes Zarathos, Flash can't really beat Ghostrider. Ghostrider is immune to physical damage, gets his power from a source that's too voluminous for Flash to completely speed steal, and can circumvent Flash's form of BFR with dimensional travel. The only chance Flash would have is to BFR him to entropy where GR would cease to exist but that's not something Flash would do in a majority of fights.

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#47 Posted by icecold14 (6767 posts) - - Show Bio

@dredeuced: From what I heard he has penanced stared a whole city so yeah

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#48 Posted by Transformers1024 (7593 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't even know how Flash would hurt him.

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#49 Posted by noah_ouellette (2882 posts) - - Show Bio

Duh ghos rider, he looks badass

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#50 Posted by Leo-343 (30912 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalemate or Flash just Bfr's him for a temporary win.