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Ghidorah

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Godzilla and Kong

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Legendary versions

Godzilla as of Nuke upgrade

Kong does not have his axe

Victory by Death

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KG, due to the power lines in the location, could probably take a win.

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Kong is a non-factor here. King Ghidorah wins because Godzilla had help twice to defeat Ghidorah.

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Godzilla got amped in GvK, he would destroy Ghidorah with earth piercing Atomic Breath.

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Godzilla got amped in GvK, he would destroy Ghidorah with earth piercing Atomic Breath.

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Godzilla on burn mode stomp.

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Why didn't Godzilla using burning mode in GvK?

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Why didn't Godzilla using burning mode in GvK?

No one nuked him

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If he was burning mode in GvK, the fight with MG would’ve been over in a few seconds

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Did Godzilla actually get a confirmed canonical upgrade going into GvK? Or is that just something people are saying for whatever reason

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@kingguinness: cos of that one feat of drilling into the earth with atomic breath.

Imo I think he was definitely more than capable of doing that in KOTM and Godzilla (2014)

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The Three Kings

This would be an epic fight.

I'll give my vote to the Team 6/10. A combination of Kong's agility and Godzilla's raw power could help the edge out a victory.

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@akz said:

@kingguinness: cos of that one feat of drilling into the earth with atomic breath.

Imo I think he was definitely more than capable of doing that in KOTM and Godzilla (2014)

But that maybe because of Godzilla resonating with the Hollow Earth power source after Kong activated it with the axe.

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Godzilla with nuke upgrade.... Kong with no axe.... ? Why?

Anyway.... Godzilla's improved atomic breath would likely force KG to avoid fighting at along range, as I don't recall KG having a long range attack to oppose it. This works in favor of Kong, using agility and the surrounding buildings to avoid trouble and jumping in when necessary, and probably do as he did against Mechagodzilla, try to tear of its arms... It won't work but it will cause enough damage to wings to effectively keep KG grounded.

Following this, Kong's dexterity will greatly aid in limiting at least one, possibly two of KG's heads, and Godzilla tearing using breath or jaws to destroy the others, its possible the team forces a victory

Team 7.5/10

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@jack_hart: yeah exactly, only reason he didn’t blast to earths core in the other films was cos he had no reason to

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"Godzilla as of Nuke upgrade. Kong does not have his axe"

Moronic, what do you want him to do?

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The team take this without a doubt, Godzilla is already capable of wrestling and damaging KG singlehandedly and now he has Kong who can grab wings and necks and throw haymakers while they both try to rip heads off haha.

Team take it 8-9/10

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@akz said:
@grandtoaa said:

Why didn't Godzilla using burning mode in GvK?

No one nuked him

He needs to be overcharged by nuclear energy then having mothra dust and energy sacrificed into him haha

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@akz: well thats false.

Fight 1 and fight 2 in KOTM were both with smaller pre-nuke Goji and he was capable of going h2h with KG and ripped his head clean off.

Fight 3 with post-nuke Goji he was winning most of the physical encounters then with Mothra starting to help KG needed his own powerup to eventually burn and weaken Godzilla to retake the advantage.

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@finalkingthanos: b4 Burning mode, he was still getting dominated nonetheless, get dropped from the sky 😂

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#23  Edited By finalkingthanos

@akz: that's after KG got the city grid power up though you're leaving out context.

Also remember pre-nuke Goji battled Ghidorah and left him in the ice for millions of years.

Ghidorah isn't taking out 2 of the other 3 Alpha titans at once only Mecha can probably do that.

People are also overlooking it was confirmed Ghidorah needed the volcanic radiation from Rodans volcano to regenerate its not something he can do on a whim.

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#25  Edited By WarlordEternal

@almightyamortal said:

Godzilla with nuke upgrade.... Kong with no axe.... ? Why?

Anyway.... Godzilla's improved atomic breath would likely force KG to avoid fighting at along range, as I don't recall KG having a long range attack to oppose it. This works in favor of Kong, using agility and the surrounding buildings to avoid trouble and jumping in when necessary, and probably do as he did against Mechagodzilla, try to tear of its arms... It won't work but it will cause enough damage to wings to effectively keep KG grounded.

Following this, Kong's dexterity will greatly aid in limiting at least one, possibly two of KG's heads, and Godzilla tearing using breath or jaws to destroy the others, its possible the team forces a victory

Team 7.5/10

You pretty much just explained why. I try not to weigh in on my own fights but based on what we've seen, the axe would tip the scales a little too far in the teams favor. At least that is what I feel.

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"Godzilla as of Nuke upgrade. Kong does not have his axe"

Moronic, what do you want him to do?

Use your imagination. He has enough strength to wrestle with Godzilla. Great dexterity, and excellent agility.

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Godzilla got amped in GvK, he would destroy Ghidorah with earth piercing Atomic Breath.

Lmao no he wouldn't Ghidorah already tanked Atomic breath no difficulty. Nothing suggest his atomic breath got stronger at all.

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Did Godzilla actually get a confirmed canonical upgrade going into GvK? Or is that just something people are saying for whatever reason

No he didn't get a upgrade people are just illiterate.

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The question is....is the burning-mode activation pixie dust unique to Mothra on death or is it something any dead kaiju will pass on to Godzilla? If Kong being roasted has same effect, team wins. If it doesn’t, then team has a 50/50 shot I suppose....KG is not immune to atomic breath, just resistant....same as GZ to lightning breath.

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Godzilla got amped in GvK, he would destroy Ghidorah with earth piercing Atomic Breath.

How was he amped?

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@frozen said:
@darkthunder said:
@hydratedfubuki6 said:

Godzilla got amped in GvK, he would destroy Ghidorah with earth piercing Atomic Breath.

How was he amped?

I mean buffed my bad. Buffed because his Atomic Breath is much stronger now and much more durable since he endured MGZ's proton scream that's more powerful than his Atomic Breath.

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Godzilla already beat Ghidorah in the arctic before the movie, as confirmed by the director, and was, quite literally, manhanding Ghidorah after the nuke, would have killed him after Ghidorah fought Rodan (confirmed by the director), and ran away from Godzilla in the arctic.

Godzilla just wins, Kong is a non factor, really

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@hydratedfubuki6 said:

Godzilla got amped in GvK, he would destroy Ghidorah with earth piercing Atomic Breath.

Lmao no he wouldn't Ghidorah already tanked Atomic breath no difficulty. Nothing suggest his atomic breath got stronger at all.

Godzilla's atomic breath didn't vaporized tens of kilometres and tremble the area in their battle in Antarctica.

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Godzilla solos, KG gets jumped

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@supremekilla010 said:
@hydratedfubuki6 said:

Godzilla got amped in GvK, he would destroy Ghidorah with earth piercing Atomic Breath.

Lmao no he wouldn't Ghidorah already tanked Atomic breath no difficulty. Nothing suggest his atomic breath got stronger at all.

Godzilla's atomic breath didn't vaporized tens of kilometres and tremble the area in their battle in Antarctica.

Correct me if im wrong but did Godzilla ever shoot his atomic breath directly at the ground? Nope it didn't get any stronger bro stop it.

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His breath never got an amp in GVK IDK where that idea is coming from

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#36  Edited By SupremeKilla010

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Godzilla already beat Ghidorah in the arctic before the movie, as confirmed by the director, and was, quite literally, manhanding Ghidorah after the nuke, would have killed him after Ghidorah fought Rodan (confirmed by the director), and ran away from Godzilla in the arctic.

Godzilla just wins, Kong is a non factor, really

Godzilla lost badly in the artic. yes the director said he would have won underwater but that's obvious. Ghidorah didn't run away and Godzilla got blown in the water and was getting helped in the artic stop the foolishness. Not to mention Ghidorah beat his ass in the city as well.

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@vertigo- said:

Godzilla already beat Ghidorah in the arctic before the movie, as confirmed by the director, and was, quite literally, manhanding Ghidorah after the nuke, would have killed him after Ghidorah fought Rodan (confirmed by the director), and ran away from Godzilla in the arctic.

Godzilla just wins, Kong is a non factor, really

Godzilla lost in the artic bro yes the director said he would have won underwater but that's obvious. Ghidorah didn't run away and Godzilla was getting helped in the artic stop the foolishness.

Godzilla beat Ghidorah before the events of this movie. WOG states so and its >you. As for the arctic, he never lost, he got pushed down a hole, climbed back out, then Ghidorah literally flew away. If you think the humans are really any sort of meaningful help against Ghidorah then you never watched the movie as you can see the scene in boston as for how effective the Argo is against him. They are a fly at best.

Godzilla literally already won this fight twice

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#38  Edited By SupremeKilla010

@vertigo- said:
@supremekilla010 said:
@vertigo- said:

Godzilla already beat Ghidorah in the arctic before the movie, as confirmed by the director, and was, quite literally, manhanding Ghidorah after the nuke, would have killed him after Ghidorah fought Rodan (confirmed by the director), and ran away from Godzilla in the arctic.

Godzilla just wins, Kong is a non factor, really

Godzilla lost in the artic bro yes the director said he would have won underwater but that's obvious. Ghidorah didn't run away and Godzilla was getting helped in the artic stop the foolishness.

Godzilla beat Ghidorah before the events of this movie. WOG states so and its >you. As for the arctic, he never lost, he got pushed down a hole, climbed back out, then Ghidorah literally flew away. If you think the humans are really any sort of meaningful help against Ghidorah then you never watched the movie as you can see the scene in boston as for how effective the Argo is against him. They are a fly at best.

Godzilla literally already won this fight twice

Bro were going strictly off feats. Kong species already killed some of Godzilla species prior to their fight and Godzilla still beat Kong so thats irrelevant. Godzilla was still losing regardless Ghidorah dropped him he got back up and Ghidorah used his Gravity beams to blow him back down in the Ocean. When they fought in Boston Godzilla out right lost that fight Ghidorah literally picked him and dropped him down to earth and ko'd him. Then would have killed him. Ghidorah beats Godzilla in a fair 1v1 on land.

Also he trapped Ghidorah in ice that hardly counts as a win. One more thing obviously the humans can't hurt Ghidorah but they distracted him.

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@akz: MG would’ve instantly melted

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@akz: MG would’ve instantly melted

Exactly i don't know why people think Mecha Godzilla is as durable as Godzilla.

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@vertigo- said:
@supremekilla010 said:
@vertigo- said:

Godzilla already beat Ghidorah in the arctic before the movie, as confirmed by the director, and was, quite literally, manhanding Ghidorah after the nuke, would have killed him after Ghidorah fought Rodan (confirmed by the director), and ran away from Godzilla in the arctic.

Godzilla just wins, Kong is a non factor, really

Godzilla lost in the artic bro yes the director said he would have won underwater but that's obvious. Ghidorah didn't run away and Godzilla was getting helped in the artic stop the foolishness.

Godzilla beat Ghidorah before the events of this movie. WOG states so and its >you. As for the arctic, he never lost, he got pushed down a hole, climbed back out, then Ghidorah literally flew away. If you think the humans are really any sort of meaningful help against Ghidorah then you never watched the movie as you can see the scene in boston as for how effective the Argo is against him. They are a fly at best.

Godzilla literally already won this fight twice

Bro were going strictly off feats.

We're going off what happened in verse, and what the literal director of the film states adds on to the lore of the verse and in fact, counts as a feat, even if you want to go off that

Kong species already killed some of Godzilla species prior to their fight

Source? Never stated in the film, only that there was a rivalry, which makes sense since both species are something of an alpha species

Godzilla was still losing regardless Ghidorah dropped him he got back up

Lets unpack this for a second. You first state that Godzilla lost, which he never did, you then state he was losing, which he wasn't. He got pushed down the literal crater Godzilla left him in thousands of years ago. That's a big ass hole that's gonna take him time to get up from. He got up and was still good to go until Ghidorah booked it.

and Ghidorah used his Gravity beams to blow him back down in the Ocean

What is this? The only monster Ghidorah blew back down into the ocean was Rodan, who's not here. What actually happened is that Ghidorah flew away and the POV character (Mark) passes out while hearing Godzilla roar in presumable anger/frustration . When they fought in Boston, Ghidorah out right lost that fight.

When they fought in Boston Godzilla out right lost that fight Ghidorah literally picked him and dropped him down to earth and ko'd him.

Ghidorah was getting thrown around by Godzilla, and blasted back by Goji's atomic breath every time. Ghidorah literally needed to amp himself in order to accomplish that feat and Goji was never KO'd at all. His eyes are still opened, he was just heavily damaged, since he got dropped from a high enough distance to hit re entry speeds.

Then would have killed him. Ghidorah beats Godzilla in a fair 1v1 on land.

This would mean something, had Godzilla not already beat Ghidorah on land before the movie, and then got an amp and beat him again.

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#42  Edited By Vertigo-

@supremekilla010: Also he trapped Ghidorah in ice that hardly counts as a win. One more thing obviously the humans can't hurt Ghidorah but they distracted him.

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  1. Godzilla is patently below Gidorah outside of the water, which is basically the only factor that could have tipped the fight in his scales whenever they fought eons ago. The entirety of KoTM supports this given Godzilla was bodied by Gidorah everytime outside of massive amps.
  2. Juiced Godzilla was winning against Gidorah until the later absorbed the electrical grid, though given all this did was make a bigger EMP (eliminating the military) I think he would have beaten Big G anyway.

In summation, Gidorah beats Godzilla decisively without outside influence and I don't think Kong is enough to meaningfully tip the scales without his axe in play.

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#44  Edited By Vertigo-

>Godzilla is below Ghidora

>Godzilla beat Ghidorah before the movie, so says the director

pick one

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#45  Edited By SupremeKilla010

@vertigo- said:
@supremekilla010 said:
@vertigo- said:
@supremekilla010 said:
@vertigo- said:

Godzilla already beat Ghidorah in the arctic before the movie, as confirmed by the director, and was, quite literally, manhanding Ghidorah after the nuke, would have killed him after Ghidorah fought Rodan (confirmed by the director), and ran away from Godzilla in the arctic.

Godzilla just wins, Kong is a non factor, really

Godzilla lost in the artic bro yes the director said he would have won underwater but that's obvious. Ghidorah didn't run away and Godzilla was getting helped in the artic stop the foolishness.

Godzilla beat Ghidorah before the events of this movie. WOG states so and its >you. As for the arctic, he never lost, he got pushed down a hole, climbed back out, then Ghidorah literally flew away. If you think the humans are really any sort of meaningful help against Ghidorah then you never watched the movie as you can see the scene in boston as for how effective the Argo is against him. They are a fly at best.

Godzilla literally already won this fight twice

Bro were going strictly off feats.

We're going off what happened in verse, and what the literal director of the film states adds on to the lore of the verse and in fact, counts as a feat, even if you want to go off that

Kong species already killed some of Godzilla species prior to their fight

Source? Never stated in the film, only that there was a rivalry, which makes sense since both species are something of an alpha species

Godzilla was still losing regardless Ghidorah dropped him he got back up

Lets unpack this for a second. You first state that Godzilla lost, which he never did, you then state he was losing, which he wasn't. He got pushed down the literal crater Godzilla left him in thousands of years ago. That's a big ass hole that's gonna take him time to get up from. He got up and was still good to go until Ghidorah booked it.

and Ghidorah used his Gravity beams to blow him back down in the Ocean

What is this? The only monster Ghidorah blew back down into the ocean was Rodan, who's not here. What actually happened is that Ghidorah flew away and the POV character (Mark) passes out while hearing Godzilla roar in presumable anger/frustration . When they fought in Boston, Ghidorah out right lost that fight.

When they fought in Boston Godzilla out right lost that fight Ghidorah literally picked him and dropped him down to earth and ko'd him.

Ghidorah was getting thrown around by Godzilla, and blasted back by Goji's atomic breath every time. Ghidorah literally needed to amp himself in order to accomplish that feat and Goji was never KO'd at all. His eyes are still opened, he was just heavily damaged, since he got dropped from a high enough distance to hit re entry speeds.

Then would have killed him. Ghidorah beats Godzilla in a fair 1v1 on land.

This would mean something, had Godzilla not already beat Ghidorah on land before the movie, and then got an amp and beat him again.

1- Trapping Ghidorah in ice is not that same as killing it but go off bro. We seen Kong grab the Axe out of the bones of Godzilla species so clearly Kong species killed Godzilla species you asked for proof there you go.

2- Godzilla got his ass whooped in the artic rewatch the fight if you need to he popped up out of the glazers and got dropped by Ghidorah and then the missiles from the soldiers distracted him. Godzilla then got up and tried to use his atomic breath Ghidorah evaded it and used his gravity beam and that blew Godzilla down into the water and Ghidorah proceeded to fly away he clearly had won up to that point.

3- Godzilla was still losing in Boston you keep saying Ghidorah needed to amp himself but forget that the Nuke literally boosted Godzilla right before he came to Boston and he was still losing. Manthra had to help him by sticking Ghidorah head to a building. Once Ghidorah got amped like Godzilla did prior to coming to boston he proceeded to stomp Godzilla again and it was fair cause they both had been amped.

4- Pre movie fight Ghidorah got froze this we talking about a straight fight to the death and Godzilla loses. He lost in Boston he was getting chopped on by Ghidorah and was helpless until they use the Alpha technology to get Ghidorah attention.

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@vertigo- said:

@supremekilla010: Also he trapped Ghidorah in ice that hardly counts as a win. One more thing obviously the humans can't hurt Ghidorah but they distracted him.

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Director of the film says he outright won. GG

Bro i understand that Godzilla won because Ghidorah was frozen in ice but were talking about a fight to the death not winner via frozen. Ghidorah had Godzilla dead here if the humans didn't interfere.

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#47  Edited By Vertigo-

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1- Trapping Ghidorah in ice is not that same as killing it but go off bro.

Ohhh so now we're changing things again? Now it's not "beat", but "kill". You really need to stop shifting the goal posts so much, it's getting annoying.

We seen Kong grab the Axe out of the bones of Godzilla species so clearly Kong species killed Godzilla species you asked for proof there you go.

Okay, now all you need to do is prove it was a member of Kongs species that killed it, and not say, anything else that was around at that time. Keep in mind that there are over 17 species of titans (and counting) on Earth that we know of (per Serizawa), and we have no idea what else is on the Hollow Earth as that place hasn't been explored for jack yet. In short, you can't prove this

2- Godzilla got his ass whooped in the artic rewatch the fight if you need to he popped up out of the glazers and got dropped by Ghidorah and then the missiles from the soldiers distracted him. Godzilla then got up and tried to use his atomic breath Ghidorah evaded it and used his gravity beam and that blew Godzilla down into the way and Ghidorah proceeded to fly away he clearly had won up to that point.

Like I said, he never lost, nor was he losing. He got pushed down a hole, got up, Ghidorah flew away. Godzilla was basically fine for that whole fight and good to keep going. If anything, Ghidorah lost that fight since he ran away. Literal self BFR

3- Godzilla was still losing in Boston you keep saying Ghidorah needed to amp himself but forget that the Nuke literally boosted Godzilla right before he came to Boston and he was still losing. Manthra had to help him by sticking Ghidorah head to a building. Once Ghidorah got amped like Godzilla did prior to coming to boston he proceeded to stomp Godzilla again and it was fair cause they both had been amped.

>throwing Ghidorah around, blasting him back with atomic breath
>losing
Mentioning the nuke at all doesn't matter, since this is current Goji, which means the nuke amp (permanent) still applies. Mothra did not have to help Godzilla at all, since we know that Goji can beat Ghidorah before the nuke and was beating him after the nuke amped him. Good concession on admitting that he needed an amp to stand against Goji tho.

4- Pre movie fight Ghidorah got froze this we talking about a straight fight to the death and Godzilla loses. He lost in Boston he was getting chopped on by Ghidorah and was helpless until they use the Alpha technology to get Ghidorah attention.

Again, Goji literally already beat Ghidorah in the arctic, there is no point to debate against one of the writers of the script, as well as the director of the actual film in this. WOG literally trumps any opinion you or I may have on it.

Ghidorah got frozen in ice because he got beat by Godzilla. He clearly passed out and got frozen in the intrim. How else do you think he got frozen?

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1- Trapping Ghidorah in ice is not that same as killing it but go off bro.

Ohhh so now we're changing things again? Now it's not "beat", but "kill". You really need to stop shifting the goal posts so much, it's getting annoying.

We seen Kong grab the Axe out of the bones of Godzilla species so clearly Kong species killed Godzilla species you asked for proof there you go.

Okay, now all you need to do is prove it was a member of Kongs species that killed it, and not say, anything else that was around at that time. Keep in mind that there are over 17 species of titans (and counting) on Earth that we know of (per Serizawa), and we have no idea what else is on the Hollow Earth as that place hasn't been explored for jack yet. In short, you can't prove this

2- Godzilla got his ass whooped in the artic rewatch the fight if you need to he popped up out of the glazers and got dropped by Ghidorah and then the missiles from the soldiers distracted him. Godzilla then got up and tried to use his atomic breath Ghidorah evaded it and used his gravity beam and that blew Godzilla down into the way and Ghidorah proceeded to fly away he clearly had won up to that point.

Like I said, he never lost, nor was he losing. He got pushed down a hole, got up, Ghidorah flew away. Godzilla was basically fine for that whole fight and good to keep going. If anything, Ghidorah lost that fight since he ran away. Literal self BFR

3- Godzilla was still losing in Boston you keep saying Ghidorah needed to amp himself but forget that the Nuke literally boosted Godzilla right before he came to Boston and he was still losing. Manthra had to help him by sticking Ghidorah head to a building. Once Ghidorah got amped like Godzilla did prior to coming to boston he proceeded to stomp Godzilla again and it was fair cause they both had been amped.

>throwing Ghidorah around, blasting him back with atomic breath
>losing
Mentioning the nuke at all doesn't matter, since this is current Goji, which means the nuke amp (permanent) still applies. Mothra did not have to help Godzilla at all, since we know that Goji can beat Ghidorah before the nuke and was beating him after the nuke amped him. Good concession on admitting that he needed an amp to stand against Goji tho.

4- Pre movie fight Ghidorah got froze this we talking about a straight fight to the death and Godzilla loses. He lost in Boston he was getting chopped on by Ghidorah and was helpless until they use the Alpha technology to get Ghidorah attention.

Again, Goji literally already beat Ghidorah in the arctic, there is no point to debate against one of the writers of the script, as well as the director of the actual film in this. WOG literally trumps any opinion you or I may have on it.

1- Bro im not changing anything i thought it was common sense that we were talking about win via death. Lets see what other Titan has hands and can actually use a axe correctly or remotely viable none because the other don't even have the means to use a axe but its clear your getting desperate. Lol he was losing bro quit denying it yes Ghidorah flew away but that doesn't mean he wasn't winning before he left when its clear he was.

2- He can't beat Ghidorah pre nuke if there is no where to trap him in ice then he can't win loool guess what bro in the middle of a city there is no ice for Godzilla to trap Ghidorah in therefor he loses like he did in cannon multiple times.

3- With or without the amp Godzilla can't put Ghidorah down while Ghidorah can still put him down via dropping him from the clouds.

Just admit it Ghidorah beats Godzilla bro only how Godzilla can win is Underwater or in the artic where he can trap him in ice that's it.

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Team in a good fight maybe, Big G getting better quantifiable feats does not mean he got stronger, Ghidorah would just scale to that given that he is above normal Godzilla

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1- Bro im not changing anything i thought it was common sense that we were talking about win via death. Lets see what other Titan has hands and can actually use a axe correctly or remotely viable none because the other don't even have the means to use a axe but its clear your getting desperate. Lol he was losing bro quit denying it yes Ghidorah flew away but that doesn't mean he wasn't winning before he left when its clear he was.

Well, I just went back and double checked the film, and the skeleton the axe was buried in is quite literally too small to be from a member of Godzilla's species. We've seen the size of two members of said species in the verse and it's blatantly too small. We have no idea what species that skeleton is from, but no way it's from a member of Godzilla's.

Wins via KO still count in verse, as seen how Ghidorah wasn't dead when Godzilla beat him, as confirmed by Mike. We don't discount wins that don't result in death, otherwise you'd say dumb shit like Ghidorah never beat Rodan and Mothra never beat Rodan, despite both clearly winning their respective fights.

2- He can't beat Ghidorah pre nuke if there is no where to trap him in ice then he can't win loool guess what bro in the middle of a city there is no ice for Godzilla to trap Ghidorah in therefor he loses like he did in cannon multiple times.

Except for the fact that he DID beat him pre nuke, which is why Ghidorah got trapped in the ice to begin with.

3- With or without the amp Godzilla can't put Ghidorah down while Ghidorah can still put him down via dropping him from the clouds.

Except for the fact that Godzill DID put him down without the amp. And can obviously do so again, with the amp. if he can KO him without the amp, and rip his heads off without the amp, I'd say arguing that he can do it with the amp isn't a stretch in the slightest

Just admit it Ghidorah beats Godzilla bro only how Godzilla can win is Underwater or in the artic where he can trap him in ice that's it.

Except according to the screenwriter and director of the film, Godzilla's already beaten Ghidorah. He then only got stronger since doing that