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#1 Posted by Tjakrabirawa (2600 posts) - - Show Bio

All-out battle

This is current Supes after being brought back to life

No prep

Fight to the death or incap

No BFR

Location: Z-City

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#2 Posted by Chris-Sama (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

Genos megastomps

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#3 Posted by Tjakrabirawa (2600 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama: what? How? I thought clark is faster after JL

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#4 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18247 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Posted by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

Genos is a jobber with questionable durability. Supes grabs him and flies to the sun

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#7 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18247 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan said:

Genos is a jobber with questionable durability. Supes grabs him and flies to the sun

He isn't a jobber, he lost to Sea King simply because he jumped in the way of his acid in an attempt to protect someone. And he lost to CK just because he wasn't strong enough to win, not sure how that makes him a jobber.

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#8 Posted by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

@watcher5000: nah, he's literally a jobber. That's the point of his character, to lose and look bad so Saitama can save the day.

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#9 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18247 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan: Not really, again losing to superior opponents to yourself or letting yourself be beaten doesn't make you a jobber.

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#10 Posted by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

@watcher5000: He's going to lose in some dumb way like usual. Genos isn't that great, hell he's somehow going to let a nearly dead Garou get away right now

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#11 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18247 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan said:

@watcher5000: He's going to lose in some dumb way like usual. Genos isn't that great, hell he's somehow going to let a nearly dead Garou get away right now

When Garou gets away it will be more of Bang's fault than Genos', since he is the one who's currently fighting him.

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#12 Posted by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

@watcher5000: meh, I still see Genos getting grabbed by Supes and we all know how DCEU supes loves bull rushes

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#13 Posted by IfDCRuledTheWorld (1098 posts) - - Show Bio

So how exactly does Genos hurt Clark? Even his strongest AOE attack wouldn't hurt him. Clark wins eventually.

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#14 Posted by Tjakrabirawa (2600 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan: yeah i feel little disappointed after he gets upgrade he let a nearly dead Garou ripped his arm apart just like that..

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#15 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18247 posts) - - Show Bio

So how exactly does Genos hurt Clark? Even his strongest AOE attack wouldn't hurt him. Clark wins eventually.

You serious? It's quite the opposite, cause I could say Genos has took an attack from awakened Garou who would one shot Superman.

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#16 Posted by SuperGoku17 (7220 posts) - - Show Bio
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#17 Posted by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

@watcher5000: Everyone took a hit from awakened Garou. I don't think Awakened Garou even killed anyone

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#18 Edited by thelocust619 (7854 posts) - - Show Bio

Genos vaped a mountaintop a few arcs ago, and busted through a nuke bunker. Superman's nuke level durability is trash here. He gets blitzed and possibly even one shot.

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#19 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18247 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan said:

@watcher5000: Everyone took a hit from awakened Garou. I don't think Awakened Garou even killed anyone

He killed monsters, either way, just because he wasn't trying to kill Genos doesn't mean it's not a good durability feat.

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#20 Posted by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

@watcher5000: Monster Garou was going all out and trying to kill everyone...... but he didn't and if I remember correctly, nearly every hero there was attacked by him and took hits from him, some even multiple times. I don't think every S-Class hero has DCEU supes durability or speed either.

But really, we knew Genos wasn't gonna die because he's there to be beat on and come back like Yamcha.

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#21 Posted by rickyrck (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan said:

@watcher5000: He's going to lose in some dumb way like usual. Genos isn't that great, hell he's somehow going to let a nearly dead Garou get away right now

this isnt true, bang wanted to settle things with garou and SPOILERS Elder centipede is gonna save garou in the next chapter

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#22 Edited by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickyrck: If Genos was actually that powerful or consistent, he would've taken Garou out before Bang came since you know, he got there much earlier and has heavy advantages

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#23 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18247 posts) - - Show Bio

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@rickyrck: If Genos was actually that powerful or consistent, he would've taken Garou out before Bang came since you know, he got there much earlier and has heavy advantages

I don't get why people are using that chapter as a bad moment for Genos, why can't Garou just be that good? Garou is probably the most skilled fighter in the world excluding people like Bang, has an advanced growth ability, and literally adapts to those who he fights. Just because Genos didn't incinerate Garou the second the fight started means Genos is weak?

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#24 Edited by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

@watcher5000: Oh Garou is good but Genos is supposed to be much better since he's an actual S-Class compared to the A-class (or B-Class?) that Garou just beat with high difficulty. Genos also got lots of new upgrades and is completely fresh while having the drop on Garou while Garou is running away, badly beaten, heavily injured with poison in his system and nearly dying and he's still beating Genos.

Genos is weak and he only takes out fodder. On paper Genos sounds great, in actual fights he loses.

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#25 Posted by rickyrck (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan: thats what you call plot armor for garou, like.. he has a major role to play in future events and one´s not gonna kill garou just because genos is theoretical stronger than him

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#26 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18247 posts) - - Show Bio

^^^

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#27 Posted by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickyrck: Genos also has plot armor, which is why he hasn't died even though he should've.

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#28 Posted by rickyrck (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan: not as strong has the next big villain of season 2

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#29 Edited by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickyrck: does it really matter here? Garou isn't the first, last or only person Genos has fought. Any way, this is getting out of topic, Genos is still not going to beat Supes.

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#30 Posted by rickyrck (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan: of course it does, youre trying to say genos is weak because he didnt kill garou.

he is, hypersonic + cb speed and borderline moutain busting feats its more than enough to beat this supes.

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#31 Posted by TrueAustralian (1186 posts) - - Show Bio

Genos is no Jobber, he's 6 for 6 W/L. He's just an average fighter that doesn't know how to pick his battles.

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#32 Posted by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickyrck: It's not going to put supes down and supes is also hyper-sonic but with better durability and better flight. Lets not get into Genos durability too.

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#33 Posted by rickyrck (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan: mind showing those so called hypersonic + cb speed feats for superman? also mountain busting -> nuke durability.

genos durability means nothing here since supes is not gonna tag him until i see those hypersonic+ combat speed feats.

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#34 Edited by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickyrck: Supes fight with Zod is enough. The guidebook says his reflexers are as fast as his acceleration and we see how fast supes is by flying from space back to earth, flying from continent to continent, etc.

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Seeing as how Genos "mountain destroying" attack hasn't taken anyone but fodder and needs to be somewhat charged, I doubt it would take supes. He couldn't even take out Garou with it either and Garou at this point wasn't doing things supes can't do.

Genos body also easily gets destroyed a lot because he's a jobber and he has a power supply that can be destroyed. This will be like many of his fights where he goes against a non-fodder strong enemy and loses

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#35 Edited by rickyrck (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan: stating things aint gonna cut it bud. show me why the fight with zod is considered hypersonic + and then ill concede that this isnt a stomp for genos, i can show you why genos is hypersonic + in cb speed if you want.

the fact that it took down a mountain its all the proof needed to conclude it would one shot superman.

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#36 Posted by GLCorps (145 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickyrck: Superman gor shriveled up by the nuke because of the radiation not the kinetic force. DCEU Superman is officialy planet level according to JL

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#37 Edited by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickyrck: You don't need the zod fight because supes reflexes are as fast as his flying speed. He also reacts well against the flash.

Yes, supes will wait for Genos to charge his attack and just stand there.

Genos also got beat by Gouketsu, again, a character with barely any speed feats who's just large and strong.

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#38 Posted by deactivated-5a694c5def8ac (959 posts) - - Show Bio

This downplay is crazy.

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#39 Posted by Chris-Sama (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

I really cant believe fan boys are trying to argue this, genos took hits from people that have tremendous strength/striking feats. Far above snyderman. Genos is also able to keep up with speed o sound sonic. Supes would get blizted and disenegrated before he even knew what happened

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#40 Posted by rickyrck (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan said:

@rickyrck: You don't need the zod fight because supes reflexes are as fast as his flying speed. He also reacts well against the flash.

Yes, supes will wait for Genos to charge his attack and just stand there.

Genos also got beat by Gouketsu, again, a character with barely any speed feats who's just large and strong.

so far you just proved superman to be above the speed of sound which isnt enough.

genos didnt need to charge to destroy the mountain.

that fight happened off panel as far as were concerned genos could have been beat by a surprise attack.

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#41 Posted by rickyrck (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama: yeah the sea king alone has better striking feats than superman and genos fought him one armed.

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#42 Posted by NWgzsjUwhM96Y2 (3667 posts) - - Show Bio

@glcorps: lmao planet level ? because the mother box can't kill him ? you know in that context batman meant 'harder to change' than a planet. Planets are just large rocks and metal it would take a long time to terraform but definitely easier than something 1000 times stronger than steel. Unless your energy durability is below city level you wont nearly die to a nuke. Radiation= pure energy.

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#43 Posted by Superhero24 (4748 posts) - - Show Bio

Genos wrecks no debate here

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#44 Posted by jashugan (6072 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickyrck: Supes flew from space to Earth in a matter of seconds, he's more than supersonic. Genos has never actually wiped anyone with his "mountain busting shot" or else so many enemies wouldn't give him so much trouble. Even the abomination cockroach was giving him trouble

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#45 Posted by DarkPsychicLord_Prime (4060 posts) - - Show Bio

Genos one shots

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#46 Posted by GLCorps (145 posts) - - Show Bio

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: Batman meant exactly what he said. Radiation and blunt kinetic force are two entirely different things. Superman can tank blasts of that magnitude, not however the radiation blasting through his cells.

Btw Genos takes this. Ez.

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#47 Posted by NWgzsjUwhM96Y2 (3667 posts) - - Show Bio

@glcorps: and what he said means what i said. Fyi stronger than a planet means having any level of strength whatsoever since planets dont have strength lol.

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#48 Posted by Chaos239 (5081 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan: He could have one shotted most of his foes with a Moutain Busting attack casually, the only problem is that he fights 99% of his fights on a populated City.

Genos blitzes and onebsots:

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#49 Posted by MasterSkywalker (3609 posts) - - Show Bio

Genos destroys him.

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#50 Posted by Archangel01 (1438 posts) - - Show Bio

Genos one shots him