@gabrielbelmont: TP = Mind based attacks
I don't know you but if tried arguing a point instead of pretending you're better than 'Narutofanboys" you might be taken seriously.
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@gabrielbelmont: TP = Mind based attacks
I don't know you but if tried arguing a point instead of pretending you're better than 'Narutofanboys" you might be taken seriously.
@gabrielbelmont: It effects the 5 sense all of which are controlled via what organ?
> Calls people fanboys
> Doesn't present an argument
> Doesn't even know what he's arguing
Both control five senses - Kyoka suigetsu is featless against anyone with illusion resistance. Sharingan, on the other hand, is not. It can also be used to hypnotize and take opponents out of commission.
Read the blog if you don't seem to understand how genjutsu works, it will help this move on faster.
And the best part is that common Genjutsu or normal 3 Tomoe Sharingan Genjutsu can do all that stuff, let alone what all the top tier Genjutsu can do, lol. Tsukuyomi is a world where the caster has the complete control over the time-space-reality. Itachi killed people with it.
Izanami can put you under an infinite time loop where if the caster doesn't tell you how to escape from it you will never figure it out.
Nirvana's Temple can put hundreds of people to sleep in a second.
Christ, how many Genjutsu are in Naruto?!
@limitlesssigil: it's actually vis versa by a decent amount.
@tetsukage said:
@limitlesssigil: it's actually vis versa by a decent amount.
It's really not. You must enjoy going around in circles.
@limitlesssigil: it is I've read this entire thread , more people sided with Genjutsu.
In fact I saw you getting schooled in it earlier, your the guy who refused to read a link that proved you wrong you then made the excuse that it was a "Theory" so you wouldn't have to post a rebuttal
Now about going in circles, you got schooled why did you come back?
So, the general consensus thus far is that any form of Genjutsu shits on KS.
Fixed ;)
Christ, saying a shitty, mere mirage is better than any form of Genjutsu...lucky to you i fixed that bullshit, lol.
@tetsukage said:
@limitlesssigil: it is I will be read this entire thread , more people sided with Genjutsu.
I'm fact I saw you getting schooled in it earlier, your the guy who refused to read a link that proved you wrong you then made the excuse that it was a "Theory" so you wouldn't have to post a rebuttal
Now about going in circles, you got schooled why did you come back?
I've also read the entire thread, overwhelming majority agree KS shits on any form of Genjutsu.
Lets be honest, you're a Naruto fanboy, so it's obvious you're going to see it that way.
How am I going in circles? I've stopped debating on how KS is superior, you're the one who's still going.
@saxz: No, Tsu, Koto, Izanami, Izanagi, and IT are all better
Advanced Genjutsu>>KS>>Basic Genjutsu
So, the general consensus thus far is that any form of Genjutsu shits on KS.
Fixed ;)
Christ, saying a shitty, mere mirage is better than any form of Genjutsu...lucky to you i fixed that bullshit, lol.
You're aware that a Mirage only relies on sight right?
1.) Wrong
2.) Wrong
3.) You came back, you're going in circles.
How about we do one of those CaV battles, I'll represent Genjutsu you represent KS well debate which is stronger and that's that.
@godren: Pain has stopped Fodder Genjutsu, and fear manipulation.
@tetsukage said:
1.) Wrong
2.) Wrong
3.) You came back, you're going in circles.
How about we do one of those CaV battles, I'll represent Genjutsu you represent KS well debate which is stronger and that's that.
I'm pretty sure such a thread is against the rules since it isn't technically a battle, but I'm fine with it if you set it up.
@godren said:
I wonder if Tetsukage is that person that deactivated their account.
It does seem suspicious that all the people advocating for Genjutsu have extremely low post count lol.
@limitlesssigil: well if it's against the rules we better not, I'll ask first.
@limitlesssigil: I can count two people here alone with lower post count than mine siding with KS.
@limitlesssigil: I can count two people here alone with lower post count than mine siding with KS.
I should have worded that better, *It does seem suspicious that the all of the people that are "still" advocating for Genjutsu have extremely low post count*
Better?
@limitlesssigil: Not really because someone with 3k said Genjutsu was better not to long ago
Anyways I asked a mod, let's see what he says.
@silentnightz: nothing you said is a counter for anything we've already been through.
Sigil is right going in circles is a drag, I'll focus on my debate with him if it's even allowed.
And, while everyone here is spewing nonsense about how ‘non-resistant’ Bleach characters are, they state clearly in Naruto tht GENJUTSU(not TP) users are RARE given how DIFFICULT it is to wield genjutsu PRACTICALLY IN A FIGHT. Even Jiraiya had a hard time with genjutsu....well, balls. Guess we’re back at square one
This is actually true, we've only seen like 4-5 Naruto characters ever break out of a Genjutsu lmao.
As Nodt fear which makes people die of cardiac arrest in seconds and Pepe's love, both equal advanced genjutsu such as shisui's and neither are considered even half as deadly as KS
@limitlesssigil: well Koto isn't the strongest Genjutsu and this debate is all about which is stronger.
The only Genjutsu you can even compare to KS would be Kotoamatsukami due to;
Both control your 5 senses without you realizing, and yet KS is clearly superior due to never being removed, not costing any form of energy, being completely undetectable (Unlike Koto), and not having a 10 year long cooldown lmao.
It baffles me how they can call KS a fodder Genjutsu when it does everything Koto does with more efficiency.
@tetsukage said:
@limitlesssigil: well Koto isn't the strongest Genjutsu and this debate is all about which is stronger.
Koto is the strongest Genjutsu though, the only advantage IT has over it is AoE. Hell, Koto is literally called the "Ultimate Genjutsu".
Actually KS can't compel you to do things you don't want,while koto can. So a point for koto I guess
@chakko: Completely agree.
Except it's not, IT can't be broken, Koto can.
Tsu makes you off yourself Koto doesn't
Izanami puts you in a endless loop and it can only be broken via one way.
Izanagi can rewrite death
Koto's only claim to fame is being nigh undetectable.
I'm actually interested in what you bring to the table that surpasses all that.
@tetsukage: KS is comparable to kotoamatsukami. You trick your enemy into attacking someone els. That doesn't sound like basic genjustu. It also works on souls and dead people Something Even IT cant even do. Aizens KS stays active forever. And the best you dont have to worrie about going blind or chakra limits or someone breaking. Unless its yhwach who litterly has the ability nullify anything
Izanagi does not rewrite your death because ypu have to activate it befor you die. Ywach can legit rewrite his death he got killed by ichigo and still change the future were he died
@limitlesssigil: FYI, 3 people with at least 3,000 post count all just said Genjutsu wins as opposed too, two sub 100 post count people saying KS
Just to close that weird argument you had earlier.
@tetsukage said:
Except it's not, IT can't be broken, Koto can.
Tsu makes you off yourself Koto doesn't
Izanami puts you in a endless loop and it can only be broken via one way.
Izanagi can rewrite death
Koto's only claim to fame is being nigh undetectable.
I'm actually interested in what you bring to the table that surpasses all that.
Most of this is completely wrong
Koto can't be broken, Itachi was willing to use this on an EMS Sasuke who casually broke from his own Tsukuyomi before even acquiring MS.
Koto can make you kill yourself if the weilder commanded you to do so.
Cost of using Izanami > Benefits
Cost of using Izanagi > Benefits
Koto was detected by a fodder Byakugan lol, how is that its claim to fame? It's claim to fame is being called the Ultimate Genjutsu.
@tetsukage said:
@limitlesssigil: FYI, 3 people with at least 3,000 post count all just said Genjutsu wins as opposed too, two sub 100 post count people saying KS
Just to close that weird argument you had earlier.
Sky Sanji, a notorious Bleach hater and someone who has a personal grudge against me, not surprising he'd side with Naruto.
Gilateen, everyone knows he's a Naruto wanker, hardly a reliable opinion.
@silentnightz: the senju cells thing was retconned EMS Madara used it to come back after Hashirama killed him
@limitlesssigil: doesn't matter the cost, their benefits are powerful and that's what we are debating.
@godren said:
lol some people are confusing Genjutsu with Dojutsu.
Further evidence Genjutsu needs a chakra system to work/maintain.
Finally, this is completely irrefutable "Your chakra is under your opponents control"
Now we can end this completely obvious debate.
@limitlesssigil: doesn't matter the cost, their benefits are powerful and that's what we are debating.
In a combat situation, if anyone that isn't Danzo with 30 Sharingans uses Izanagi or Izanami, then all they're doing is hurting themselves, that's why you don't see Madara or Sasuke use it.
We're not just seeing what's more powerful, we're also seeing which is better in a combat scenario, which is undoubtedly KS.
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