General Grievous Vs. Darth Maul

Tough choice. I'll go with Grievous as he's has experiance fighting Jedi and Maul has no experiance with multi-limbed cyborg psychos.

Darth Maul, people often talk of how he was just a killing machine. Little do they know he was also proficient in not only Force Push, but Force Grip(Choke) as well. He was also very intelligent, even built a 3PO droid like Anakin did. However he turned his into an assassin type droid, loading it up with all types of weapons.

" Darth Maul, people often talk of how he was just a killing machine. Little do they know he was also proficient in not only Force Push, but Force Grip(Choke) as well. He was also very intelligent, even built a 3PO droid like Anakin did. However he turned his into an assassin type droid, loading it up with all types of weapons. "

" Tough choice. I'll go with Grievous as he's has experiance fighting Jedi and Maul has no experiance with multi-limbed cyborg psychos. "

Maul honed a lot of his fighting skills against various robots, trained in all sorts of combat. Who is to say that he did, or did not have practice against a multi-armed individual. He was meant to be the perfect instrument for combat. Had he not gotten cocky in his fight against OB1 at the end, I have no doubt he would of been just as successful if not more so against the Jedi later on. Which is what Grievous was used for.
 
@Baldy said:

"Force Choke won't help here and push will be limited. "

" Maul honed a lot of his fighting skills against various robots, trained in all sorts of combat. Who is to say that he did, or did not have practice against a multi-armed individual. He was meant to be the perfect instrument for combat. Had he not gotten cocky in his fight against OB1 at the end, I have no doubt he would of been just as successful if not more so against the Jedi later on. Which is what Grievous was used for.
 
@Baldy said:

"Force Choke won't help here and push will be limited. "

I beg to differ. Force push can easily be used to throw his opponent around if he so chose. Knocking him prone to gain an advantage or even using it to kick up a smoke screen of dust to give him a tactical edge. Force choke can be used just as effective. He could easily use it to crush one of the lightsabers Grievous wields, or even once he got in close he could do much like OB1 did and pry open his chest cavity. Then use force choke to squeeze his dried up heart. "

Maul.@Andferne said:

" Maul honed a lot of his fighting skills against various robots, trained in all sorts of combat. Who is to say that he did, or did not have practice against a multi-armed individual. He was meant to be the perfect instrument for combat. Had he not gotten cocky in his fight against OB1 at the end, I have no doubt he would of been just as successful if not more so against the Jedi later on. Which is what Grievous was used for.
 
@Baldy said:

"Force Choke won't help here and push will be limited. "

I beg to differ. Force push can easily be used to throw his opponent around if he so chose. Knocking him prone to gain an advantage or even using it to kick up a smoke screen of dust to give him a tactical edge. Force choke can be used just as effective. He could easily use it to crush one of the lightsabers Grievous wields, or even once he got in close he could do much like OB1 did and pry open his chest cavity. Then use force choke to squeeze his dried up heart. "

"Tough choice. I'll go with Grievous as he's has experiance fighting Jedi and Maul has no experiance with multi-limbed cyborg psychos. "

As far as I know Grievous has not faced a swordsman or martial artist of Maul's caliber so I am giving it to Maul

I vote Maul, he has force Grevious doesn't.

" I vote Maul, he has force Grevious doesn't. "

" @vuviper said:

" I vote Maul, he has force Grevious doesn't. "

Didn't help those few dozen Jedis he slaughtered at the same time...  Cartoon Grievous wins, Movie Grievous gets chopped into pieces. "

" @AtPhantom said:

" @vuviper said:

" I vote Maul, he has force Grevious doesn't. "

Didn't help those few dozen Jedis he slaughtered at the same time...  Cartoon Grievous wins, Movie Grievous gets chopped into pieces. "

None of them were on Maul's level of force use though. "

Interesting battle.

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @vuviper said:

" I vote Maul, he has force Grevious doesn't. "

Didn't help those few dozen Jedis he slaughtered at the same time...  Cartoon Grievous wins, Movie Grievous gets chopped into pieces. "

None of them were on Maul's level of force use though. "

If I remember, at least one of them was a jedi master with a seat on the council. "

 @Strafe Prower said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @vuviper said:

" I vote Maul, he has force Grevious doesn't. "

Didn't help those few dozen Jedis he slaughtered at the same time...  Cartoon Grievous wins, Movie Grievous gets chopped into pieces. "

None of them were on Maul's level of force use though. "

If I remember, at least one of them was a jedi master with a seat on the council. "

Do you remember Maul killing Qui Gon Jin? Master level wasn't much to him. "

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @vuviper said:

" I vote Maul, he has force Grevious doesn't. "

Didn't help those few dozen Jedis he slaughtered at the same time...  Cartoon Grievous wins, Movie Grievous gets chopped into pieces. "

None of them were on Maul's level of force use though. "

If I remember, at least one of them was a jedi master with a seat on the council. "

Do you remember Maul killing Qui Gon Jin? Master level wasn't much to him. "

You know he is going to answer that Padawan level proved to be too much for Maul though, right? "

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" @Strafe Prower said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @vuviper said:

" I vote Maul, he has force Grevious doesn't. "

Didn't help those few dozen Jedis he slaughtered at the same time...  Cartoon Grievous wins, Movie Grievous gets chopped into pieces. "

None of them were on Maul's level of force use though. "

If I remember, at least one of them was a jedi master with a seat on the council. "

Do you remember Maul killing Qui Gon Jin? Master level wasn't much to him. "

You know he is going to answer that Padawan level proved to be too much for Maul though, right? "

Anyone who was paying attention knows that Maul was fight both at the same time and Obi caught him when he let his guard down and got cocky. In a straight up fight, Obi would have got slaughtered. "

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @vuviper said:

" I vote Maul, he has force Grevious doesn't. "

Didn't help those few dozen Jedis he slaughtered at the same time...  Cartoon Grievous wins, Movie Grievous gets chopped into pieces. "

None of them were on Maul's level of force use though. "

If I remember, at least one of them was a jedi master with a seat on the council. "

Do you remember Maul killing Qui Gon Jin? Master level wasn't much to him. "

You know he is going to answer that Padawan level proved to be too much for Maul though, right? "

Anyone who was paying attention knows that Maul was fight both at the same time and Obi caught him when he let his guard down and got cocky. In a straight up fight, Obi would have got slaughtered. "

You missed the " :P " part of my post... "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @vuviper said:

" I vote Maul, he has force Grevious doesn't. "

Didn't help those few dozen Jedis he slaughtered at the same time...  Cartoon Grievous wins, Movie Grievous gets chopped into pieces. "

None of them were on Maul's level of force use though. "

If I remember, at least one of them was a jedi master with a seat on the council. "

Do you remember Maul killing Qui Gon Jin? Master level wasn't much to him. "

You know he is going to answer that Padawan level proved to be too much for Maul though, right? "

Anyone who was paying attention knows that Maul was fight both at the same time and Obi caught him when he let his guard down and got cocky. In a straight up fight, Obi would have got slaughtered. "

You missed the " :P " part of my post... "

I knew, but I went ahead and said that for anyone wanting to use the arguement :) "

" Do you remember Maul killing Qui Gon Jin? Master level wasn't much to him. "

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @Strafe Prower said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @vuviper said:

" I vote Maul, he has force Grevious doesn't. "

Didn't help those few dozen Jedis he slaughtered at the same time...  Cartoon Grievous wins, Movie Grievous gets chopped into pieces. "

None of them were on Maul's level of force use though. "

If I remember, at least one of them was a jedi master with a seat on the council. "

Do you remember Maul killing Qui Gon Jin? Master level wasn't much to him. "

You know he is going to answer that Padawan level proved to be too much for Maul though, right? "

Anyone who was paying attention knows that Maul was fight both at the same time and Obi caught him when he let his guard down and got cocky. In a straight up fight, Obi would have got slaughtered. "

You missed the " :P " part of my post... "

I knew, but I went ahead and said that for anyone wanting to use the arguement :) "

Seriously, whenever I see the scene were Obi Wan cut Maul in half, I want to break the screen. PIS at its finest. "

"  You know he is going to answer that Padawan level proved to be too much for Maul though, right? :P "

" @Strafe Prower said:

" Do you remember Maul killing Qui Gon Jin? Master level wasn't much to him. "

I also remember Maul being killed by a padawan. XD  In all fairness though, Grievous was highly vulnerable to the force, as instances with Dooku and Windu proved. Griveous doesn't have a chance of overpowering Maul, he wouldn't stand a chance against any jedi that way. Grievous' key was always been confusing the enemy. Attacking from four to six different directions, striking at impossible angles, tossing and catching sabers, misleading moves, weird monkey style fighting style, and all this at the speeds even proficient force users can barely keep up with. He relies on freaking out the opponent so much they don't get the chance to concentrate and use the force. Every time the opponent does get a breather he disappears out of site and wait for another opportunity.   I believe the same goes for Maul. He has the power to crush Grievous, but not the reflex speed to do it, and defend himself at the same time. So presuming they start at a reasonably close distance, I go with Grievous.  And I'm of course not paying mind to the movie version. That was utter crap. "

" @Strafe Prower:  1. Training blind is more of a sense training than reflex speed training. 2. I don't think an assassination robot has anything on someone who brought the trade federation to a near bankrupt because they were paying for his reconstruction. 3. But I presume he was trained to predict where the attack is coming from, while the entire point of Grievous' attacks is to be impossible to predict. 4. Not sure about distance, but if he does, he wins. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

"  You know he is going to answer that Padawan level proved to be too much for Maul though, right? :P "

GET OUT OF MY MIND!!!!!! "

" @AtPhantom:@Strafe Prower:  Oh yeah? well in BattleFront 2 Maul was better than Grievous, lol "

" @AtPhantom said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

"  You know he is going to answer that Padawan level proved to be too much for Maul though, right? :P "

GET OUT OF MY MIND!!!!!! "

LMAO
 
@vuviper said:

" @AtPhantom:@Strafe Prower:  Oh yeah? well in BattleFront 2 Maul was better than Grievous, lol "

That reminds me a guy who said Superman would defeat Silver Surfer because he has better stats than him in Heroclix. 
 
True story. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

"  You know he is going to answer that Padawan level proved to be too much for Maul though, right? :P "

GET OUT OF MY MIND!!!!!! "

LMAO
 
@vuviper said:

" @AtPhantom:@Strafe Prower:  Oh yeah? well in BattleFront 2 Maul was better than Grievous, lol "

That reminds me a guy who said Superman would defeat Silver Surfer because he has better stats than him in Heroclix. 
 
True story. "

Heroclix is awesome, Despero and MM need better figures. lol "

Grevious ftw

Maul.  I don't remember the exact story but as he was training Maul, Sidious left him on a planet for a months time where he constantly was hunted and fought of assassination droids without food or rest.  After the Maul succeeded Sidious came down and told Maul he sent him off so he can begin training a new apprentice.  Enraged, Maul went after Sidious and this was his final test.  Sidious now made Maul a Sith Lord because he was willing to attack even Darth Sidous.  Maul went on to kill many Jedi and bounty hunters.  He took down entire federations at the request of Sidious and I also agree he no doubt would have killed Obi Wan as well as Qui Gonn if it wasn't for his lack of discipline.  I'm fully aware of Grevious in the cartoons, but even then I never felt he rivaled any of the top Sith in skill.  And Maul is certainly among the top Sith in skill.

Maul easy but Grievous is no punk. Obi beat them both because of luck. His accidentally fall of the edge and telekinetically grab someone Else's weapon trick worked on both of them and he used a similar tactic to beat Vadar only that time it was on purpose.

"Grievous' key was always been confusing the enemy. Attacking from four to six different directions, striking at impossible angles, tossing and catching sabers, misleading moves, weird monkey style fighting style, and all this at the speeds even proficient force users can barely keep up with.

"He relies on freaking out the opponent so much they don't get the chance to concentrate and use the force. Every time the opponent does get a breather he disappears out of site and wait for another opportunity.

"I believe the same goes for Maul. He has the power to crush Grievous, but not the reflex speed to do it, and defend himself at the same time. So presuming they start at a reasonably close distance, I go with Grievous. "

Ah General Grievous, yet another slap in the face by Mr Lucus, yet another spit in the eye by Georgie boy. General Grievous (both movie version and especially cartoon version), goes against everything Lucus tells us about The Force in episodes 4 - 6.

All that crap about: "The power to destroy a planet is nothing when compared to the power of the Force", and "Size means nothing to a Jedi, for his ally is the force". But apparently the Force is no match for a 6 armed cyborg!!

Someone please tell me why OB1, or any of the dozens of Jedi Grievous fought, didn't simply use the Force to pick him up and just throw him around the room. Or Force push him, he can't weigh more that 3 normal droids. I mean if it's that easy to build and train a cyborg to kill dozens of your average Jedi, then why not build 20 Grievous (or did Grievous have the force before he became a cyborg). Anyway rant over.

Darth Maul easily wins this. In fact any half decent Jedi / Sith / Force user, should be able to wipe the floor, walls, ceiling and those hard to reach places with General Grievous. Jedi / Sith speed is super fast, even multiple attacks should not be a problem. The first thing a Jedi learns is how to defend against a laser droid while blindfolded. Plus Maul likes to incorporate the force in his fighting style, Grievous can't defend against that. Maul could pull him apart and smile while doing it.    

"Someone please tell me why OB1, or any of the dozens of Jedi Grievous fought, didn't simply use the Force to pick him up and just throw him around the room. Or Force push him, he can't weigh more that 3 normal droids. I mean if it's that easy to build and train a cyborg to kill dozens of your average Jedi, then why not build 20 Grievous (or did Grievous have the force before he became a cyborg). Anyway rant over.  "

I knew the old, classic ideal about the Force from the old trilogy was in trouble the second they mentioned midichlorians in Episode 1.  LAME!