random encounter, who wins?
General Grievous (RotS) vs MCU Hulk
Lightsaber cuts Hulk in half unless he has feats of star temperature heats not effecting him.
This. Lightsabers are not some ordinary blade Hulk just smashes through. At the very least, we would have zero feats of him being shown to be able to do it.
Movie versions, Hulk should win unless he gets stabbed
TCW Grievous impales him
Legends Grievous, stomps him
It literally depends who hits who first, I don't think Hulk can withstand being cut in half by a lightsaber, and grievous definitely would get one shotted by a punch/kick/whatever by Hulk...
The problem is how effective would a saber be on the Hulk? GG is easily quick and smart enough to land multiple hits one it not durable enough to withstand a good punch from the Hulk. I could see GG getting crushed instantly but also the Hulk getting minced by GG. I'll give it to GG due to superior speed and intelligence.
The problem is how effective would a saber be on the Hulk? GG is easily quick and smart enough to land multiple hits one it not durable enough to withstand a good punch from the Hulk. I could see GG getting crushed instantly but also the Hulk getting minced by GG. I'll give it to GG due to superior speed and intelligence.
I disagree.
GG tanks the same blaster canons that blew apart 200 tons of asteroids easy. With no real damage, just fazed. He is made of the strongest materiel known in the Republic/Empire. I dont see he being one shotted. Two or three maybe lol.
But as you pointed out, the speed, skill, and intellect of grievous lets him win regardless.
Are we using Canon, or EU Grievous?
EU Grievous absolutely demolishes Hulk. He's not only too durable for Hulk to take down, he's also too fast for Hulk to touch and has weapons that the big green man has no way to counter. If it's Canon Grievous, things get a bit murky.
Grievous stomps if we're using Legends. Hell, TCW Grievous could arguably pull a win if we use his more high-end showings.
canon, Hulk
Legends, General.
Still this, more or less
Well the question is, just how effective would lightsabers be against Hulk? Sure, snapping could burn him but six stones used together for a universal feat is definitely beyond the amount of energy a lightsaber has and there was still some arm left. He also took a ton of Chitauri lasers and no sold all Ultron sentry blasts. Hulkbuster's giant repulsor blast didn't do much either except knockback when Hulk wasn't actively resisting. Grievous might get pulled apart if his light sabers take too long to do significant damage. I'm assuming this is movie Grievous by the image. Even if his armor holds, his organs would get wrecked from a single punch.
Canon or not Grievous one shots with 4 blades as hot as a star
MCU fanboys should be banned from vine
@emmafrostxmen: Thor already tanked the “full force of a Star” and Hulk mid comparable to him. I do think lightsabers can hurt Hulk, but they won’t cut through him like butter. Heck, there are animals in Star Wars that are lightsaber resistant, and they are a hell of a lot weaker than Hulk.
@alextheboss: what the hell
No, just no
You can scale blunt force durability relatively nicely from Thor to Hulk. But heat resistance? No you can’t
@emmafrostxmen: Hulk wasn't burned at all when grabbed by the flaming suture, and I'm pretty sure he has never been burned at all by any of the explosions that hit him either. Thor was also the one they decided had the best chance of withstanding the gauntlet. I don't see any reason his heat durability wouldn't be on a similar level to Thor's.
@alextheboss: Star >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “the flaming surtur > an explosion
@emmafrostxmen: Even still, one good punch from Hulk can kill Grievous, so they may just kill each other.
@alextheboss: Not when Grievous is faster
Grievous has fought several hundred Jedi in his career. One of which is Ahsoka who effortlessly danced around like 20+ stun blasters being fired at her
Not when Grievous is faster
Maybe in reaction speed, but Hulk has a higher top speed.
Grievous has fought several hundred Jedi in his career.
Not in canon.
One of which is Ahsoka who effortlessly danced around like 20+ stun blasters being fired at her
And the Hulk jumped multiple miles in a few seconds when he attacked Suture.
@alextheboss: blasters are visibly much faster than missiles
@emmafrostxmen: I just googled it and blaster shots supposedly go at around 78 mph, while rocket launchers shoot at 657 mph.
@alextheboss: fan calculations aren’t usable in a debate
Audience perspective prevents fan calculations from being usable...ever
@emmafrostxmen: But you just said blasters are visibly faster tha missiles... That is using your audience perspective... And I don't think you know how perspective works, because jets that can move faster than sound are easily visible in the sky, while bullets that are around the same speed are completely invisible to us, so to compare blaster fire to missiles by visible speed is disingenuous in the first place.
"Throughout the generations, lightsaber technology was refined from those first high-maintenance 'captive bolt' lightsabers to the lightweight modern lightsabers, which utilizes a stablized, massless plasma beam that burns as hot and bright as the core of a star."
- SW: Force & Destiny Core Rulebook.
Plus:
It wouldn't withstand a lightsaber, but it would keep a horde of safecrackers busy for a month, and would easily withstand a small nuclear blast."
- Fatal Alliance.
Lightsabers also have feats of completely melting through material so dense it requires reinforced floor to stand on despite being less than a meter tall and are so dense they warp space:
"As a Jedi shuttle settled to the landing deck outside, the shadow sent its mind into the far deeper night within one of the several pieces of sculpture that graced the office: an abstract twist of solid neuranium, so heavy that the office floor had been specially reinforced to bear its weight, so dense that more sensitive species might, from very close range, actually percieve the tiny warping of the fabric of space-time that was its gravitation. Neuranium of more than roughly a millimeter thick is impervious to sensors; the standard security scans undergone by all equipment and furniture to enter the Senate Office Building had shown nothing at all. If anyone had thought to use an advanced gravimetric detector, however, they might have discovered that one smallish section of the sculpture massed slightly less than it should have, given that the manifest that had accompanied it, when it was brought from Naboo among the then-ambassador's personal effects, clearly stated that it was a single piece of solid-forged neuranium. The manifest was a lie. The sculpture was not entirely solid, and not all of it was neuranium. Within a long, slim, rod-shaped cavity around which the sculpture had been forged rested a device that had lain, waiting, in absolute darkness-darkness beyond darkness-for decades. Waiting for night to fall on the Republic. The shadow felt Jedi Masters stride the vast echoic emptiness of the vaulted halls outside. It could practically hear the cadence of their boot heels on the Alderaanian marble. The darkness within the sculpture whispered of the shape and the feel and every intimate resonance of the device it cradled With a twist of its will, the shadow triggered the device. The neuranium got warm. A small round spot, smaller than the circle a human child might make of thumb and forefinger, turned the color of old blood. Then fresh blood. Then open flame. Finally a spear of scarlet energy lanced free, painting the office with the color of stars seen through the smoke of burning planets. The spear of energy lengthened, drawing with it out from the darkness the device, then the scarlet blade shrank away and the device slid itself within the softer darkness of a sleeve."
- Revenge of the Sith Novelization
All of this stuff is Legends, but it was stated and did happen at one point.
@hittheassasin: Those are some great quotes. Really makes you think how durable starships must be if lightsabers meet resistance going through them. And artillery fire can bring those things down if they have no shields.
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