Gear 5 Luffy vs SO6P Sasuke

Sasuke

according to CV intellectuals Sasuke stomps Kaido and BM 1v2 so going by that he should neg-diff G5

OT: luffy destroys him. 90% of sasuke's arsenal doesn't even work on Luffy. The only viable attacks that he can use to put luffy down is Susanoo Arrow, but luffy holds the speed advantage and has future-sight so that shouldn't be an issue

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Small Planetlevel Character>Not Small Planetlevel Character

Stop making apparent mismatches.

Sasuke has no difficulty here.

fixed it for u

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Add the rest of the verse and Sasuke takes it just as easily

Stop wanking One Piss

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show me 1 attack saske has that can put luffy down and i'll paypal you $20

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luffy blitz and violates

@xebec: Stop tagging me. I'm not interested.

Genjutsu one shots Sasuke could literally jump in the ocean and swop places with him a Luffy it’s literally that easy also Perfect Susanoo one shots Luffy as well

Shidory

Genjutsu

A normal kick or punch

Pick one.Fairy Condom is fodder for Nardo God-Tiers

@paxa:

Nobody here is even close to planet level stop that nonsense

Sasuke stomps, no one in OP can take him

Sasuke stomps

Sasuke without much troubles

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Sasuke shitstomps the fodder One Turd verse with a sneeze.

@xebec: Soul Rip.

Genjutsu

Luffy is still susceptible to cutting attacks so while the electricity would be useless, the piercing aspect of a chidori.

A chibaku tensesi is unavoidable.

If an Amaterasu connects Luffy will never be able to get it off.

The main issue against Sasuke here is that Luffy is faster and has better avoiding skills with seeing into the future, but Sasuke holds most of the other advantages. He has more hax, holds the higher AP advantage and has greater defenses and AoE with Susanoo. As well as the fact that his teleportation would definitely help him with getting around Luffy’s speed gap seems like Sasuke holds more win conditions here.

@xebec: Your total is up to $40 for the time being, btw.

I'll keep track, so you don't have to.

Oh,i forgot that Fire>Rubber

Amaterasu is a thing

KS is a thing

CT is a thing

ST is a thing

Soulrip

etc etc

Damn,im getting rich from Xebec

Luffy wins. Half of sasuke’s moves don’t work on Luffy. Future sight makes keeping up and avoiding sasuke easy.

And Luffy can potentially one shot with internal damage.

Assuming sasuke doesn’t immediately start with susanno or chubaku tensei Luffy 7/10

Does Luffy have immunity to illusions and mind control?

Sasuke can Hax his sword into luffy face

His Humanoid form Chidori has enough AP to pierce through Luffy rubber body

And his PS form Chidori has enough AP to clash with Spsm Kurama Avatar Naruto and blow off half of each other avatar. Small planet lv AP scaling from both being half Hag who scales to half of his and Hamura calc feat pushing moon into orbit in 30/60 mins minimum. Either can gg Luffy. God tree juudara > Nika Luffy.

All Luffy can do is try to avoid Sasuke with superior speed and use long range punches and kicks. But even that won’t save him because Sasuke as a teen had a slightly different Hax than adult Rinnegan. Sasuke as a teen could not only teleport / switch positions with anything he sees, but he could also teleport people in front of him without sauce having to change positions

He used it 3 times at least in 3 different battles (Madara, Kaguya, Naruto) so he should be able to use it here in this battle ultimately piercing Luffy with a Chidori and GGing him like God Tree Juudara..only no regen for the ladder to come back unless Luffy laughing powers allows his body to reattach

Sasuke AP > Kaidou club thing AP

genjutsu is not a win con

chidori doesn't work on luffy

normal kicks and punches don't work on him

When has Soul Rip ever taken out someone on note? It's a move for fodders, and it takes time lol. Luffy not about to sit around for minutes while sasuke drains his soul, and sasuke has to tag luffy which is kinda hard considering he gets outsped.

again, genjutsu is not a win con

just no. being chidori is a piercing attack due to the high amount of chakra concentrated in 1 point and by manipulating the electricity. its still an electricity based attack and does nothing to Luffy

What is Chibaku Tensei exactly gon do? Trap Luffy inside a ball of rubble? Cool, he just turns it all into rubber and plays basketball with it. We've seen Luffy tank gravity based attacks before

"IF" amaterasu connects. We've seen people dodge it many times, people who don't have future-sight. and again, just like the soul rip, that shit never did anything against notable people in the series. technique for fodders

>sasuke has more hax

it's a fact that people in one piece can tank hax with haki. and gear 5 is permanently coated in both armament and conqueror's haki

>holds the higher AP

headcanon. again, sasuke's best attack is the Susanoo Arrow, and it's not even comparable to the high end Luffy attacks

>has greater defense and aoe with susanoo

hashirama wood can break perfect susanoo defense. why would i believe that luffy doesn't simply pummel that shit

greater aoe?

my guy, luffy made a fist literally the size of an island

nope

"fire>rubber"

?

he took point blank boro breaths and shook it off like it was nothing

>amaterasu is a thing

and never did shit, congrats

same with soulrip

idk wtf the acronyms stand for

still waiting for attacks potent enough that saske has that can put luffy down

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Sauce drops the verse

ight now let s see rdc

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Leaning towards Sasuke here, not a easy battle anyway.

BM and kaidos haki were potent enough to resist spatial teleportation from law ..same one sauske is using here

And luffys haki grew to the point of being equally matched with kaido in their fight

He would resist this easily

@leon46123: genjutsu affects the 5 sense

Luffy can not only fight without his 5 sense via observation haki he can also see the future without it

Plus it's very questionable if genjutsu would work on luffy since he has no chakra network and the fact luffy can still use telepathy while he is knocked out unconscious

Luffy can win if sasuke doesnt start with genjutsu or soul rip. Pretty sure Luffy wins 7/10

@rdcdesmondsaid:

Sasuke can Hax his sword into luffy face

great, what exactly is that gonna accomplish?

luffy took a haki enhanced spike straight to the face and kept on fighting like it was nothing

took a barrage of air slices from kaido (which are way more potent that a simple ass sword tp) and kept on fighting

His Humanoid form Chidori has enough AP to pierce through Luffy rubber body

based on what? As far as luffy is concerned, it's a simple sword slice, the electricity doesn't do shit here

also cutting madara is the super impressive AP showing you think it is. Madara doesn't have some god tier durability, he got blasted and cut n shit all the time, it was the regen that gave them trouble.

And his PS form Chidori has enough AP to clash with Spsm Kurama Avatar Naruto and blow off half of each other avatar.

ok, interesting, let's see where you're going with this

Small planet lv AP scaling from both being half Hag who scales to half of his and Hamura calc feat pushing moon into orbit in 30/60 mins minimum. Either can gg Luffy. God tree juudara > Nika Luffy.

LMAO the jump. ok so:

• sasuke and naruto are not halves of hagoromo. This is evident even by the fact that sasuke gets 1 Izanami, and hagoromo has 2.
• Sasuke getting izanami and So6P power doesn't automatically scale him up to hagoromo
• Hagoromo AND hamura made the moon together
• making the moon using chibaku tensei is not AP applicable lol, idk why i have to explain this to you

All Luffy can do is try to avoid Sasuke with superior speed and use long range punches and kicks. But even that won’t save him because Sasuke as a teen had a slightly different Hax than adult Rinnegan. Sasuke as a teen could not only teleport / switch positions with anything he sees, but he could also teleport people in front of him without sauce having to change positions

He used it 3 times at least in 3 different battles (Madara, Kaguya, Naruto) so he should be able to use it here in this battle ultimately piercing Luffy with a Chidori and GGing him like God Tree Juudara..only no regen for the ladder to come back unless Luffy laughing powers allows his body to reattach

One Piece characters can resist hax by being coated in haki.

We know for a fact Luffy is permanently coated in both CoA and CoC during Gear 5

Kaido and Big Mom resisted law's Shambles which is a way more potent spatial manip hax than Izanami by feats (actually teleporting and manipulating huge objects like large boulders, towers, warships etc., not just humans and smaller objects).

and again, chidori doesn't work on luffy

and again, madara doesn't have any particularly insane durability feats to prove that splitting madara means you can split luffy

Sasuke AP > Kaidou club thing AP

based on headcanon and insane, INSANE highballing on sasuke's part.

LMAO at planetary AP sasuke

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@leon46123: no but didn’t boruto retcon the genjustu on non chackra users thing.?

@rdcdesmond: Luffy is IMMUNE to lightning. Chidori isn’t doing anything. Luffy’s punches directly damage the insides so sasuke can’t just eat them.

Good point about sasuke teleporting Luffy into his sword since he can’t actually stop it.

Sasuke's only win con is genjutsu.

@xebec: You owe $140 so far btw

2022 year, and people still believe that Dojutsu Genjutsu requires chakra from opponent when in Itachi's light novel everything was explained. Itachi was talking to Shisui, and Shisui explains that occular Genjutsu and Genjutsu like it can affect anyone because it doesn't disrupt chakra like other basic Genjutsu. He explains that Genjutsu affect the nervous system and mind itself and fills the gap by pouring their own chakra as a medium.

Also, MS Obito literally controlled mind of Yagura, who was Jinchuriki, as puppet. For Sasuke with EMS and Rinnegan to do the same is not a problem.

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@xebec: Soul rip is gonna do just exactly that. Rip Luffy’s soul out. So if Sasuke gets a hold of him, he can kill Luffy that way. It’s also been show to be pretty fast as even Nagato was able to do it casually. Just because it’s a move not used often doesn’t mean it’s dismissible as it’s still able to kill Luffy.

Genjutsu is still illusions however I’ve realized Luffy can actually easily bypass this as he doesn’t need sight to fight at all thanks to future sight.

Like I said the electric aspect of Chidori will be useless however as you pointed out it’s still a large amount of chakra concentrated in one point. It will still pierce through Luffy even if it won’t electrify him.

Can you prove Luffy can turn something so large into rubber? Even the weaker chibaku tensei of pain was dwarfing entire mountain ranges, so you’ll need to demonstrate Luffy can turn something so large into rubber.

Yeah it can be dodged, but just because it can be dodged still doesn’t make it any less of a one shot ability against Luffy, just like soul rip. If Luffy gets doused in Amaterasu then he can never get it off and will continue to burn.

Haki negates devil fruit abilities or strengthens you, and Sasuke’s abilities differ from devil fruit abilities. but if you want to play this energy equals hax negation then Sasuke’s abilities have worked on people with far higher chakra and strength than his own.

It is a fact that Sasuke holds the AP advantage. He simply has the better scaling. He scales to sage of six paths Naruto and Juubidara who both hold much better feats than anything Luffy has displayed.

You mean regular Madara’s susanoo? Literally incomparable to sage of six paths Sasuke’s power. Literally the equivalent of saying that just because Luffy was able to punch through Doflamingo’s armament haki therefore Hashirama could punch through current gear 5 Luffy’s armament haki. That’s you’re argument right there.

My guy Sasuke’s attacks were slicing up Madara’s meteors which were literally seen from the curvature of the earth.

@hybrid101: lightning chackra is still lightning based with everything that entails. The 3rd raikage hell stab is similar to chidori and got stopped by a rubber wall justu.

Amaterasu is only a one shot on fodder. Top tiers like the 4th raikage can still fight through it. And that’s IF it lands on Luffy.

Gear 5th transmutation effect is comparable to his hand which he can enlarge to island size, though I don’t know if it work on the susanno

@edgelord91: Fair point on the lightning chakra but there.

Again I don’t know what this means by Amaterasu only works on fodder. Most characters who aren’t fodder when dealing with Amaterasu either avoid it or have capabilities to absorb it. None of them outright just tank it or let it sit there. Luffy has no means of getting Amaterasu off, so if he’s hit by it, then it’s gonna be a huge disadvantage in the fight.

Where is it stated that his transmutation is proportional to his size? But even if that’s the case, chibaku Tensei’s can be vastly larger than Onigashima as demonstrated by Madara.

@mike_coxsmall: Madara didn’t fall into the sword Sasuke teleported it into him

Madara didnt even cover the full distance when sasuke teleported his sword into him

@edgelord91: Yes but Sasuke’s Chidori is still a AP focused Piercing Jutsu, even without the Electricity / Lightning effect of immobilization.

The rubber ball with 3rd Raikage temporarily stopped the Chidori but ultimately raikage broke through when he used 3 fingers instead of 5 panels later so higher AP can > Rubber. Since the less fingers 3rd used with his Stab, the stronger it is. Which is case with Sasuke who has higher AP than Luffy.

Susano is still a lot for the One Piece verse, I still don't see anything capable of overcoming Susano

Sasuke solos the verse for the moment, let's hope that power gets Eos Luffy and there this will be debatable.