Poll Gear 5 Luffy vs Juubito (read OP) (117 votes)
This is gear 5 luffy post wano, and stable juubito.
Juubito’s regen/immortality is restricted
Speed is not equalized
Who wins?
This is gear 5 luffy post wano, and stable juubito.
Juubito’s regen/immortality is restricted
Speed is not equalized
Who wins?
Simply matching kaido while in base blow for blow >> Juubito in Ap
Luffy=Kaido> old wb > old shiki Who has mc feats
Does he? I would like to hear why do you think so? First of all let us recall that chakra cannon, machine with chakra of Raikage , Bee and the army of 300 Ninjas , was able to destroy millions of meteors and make a ring of vaping in the space that was visible from the earth;
This was calculated to be around Multi Continental to Moon level:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Dariel_Senju/Naruto_-_Chakra_Cannon_Feat_Calc
Juubi would have far more energy than people above. Yet, we saw that Four Hokage barrier was taking attacks from The Final Form of the Ten Tails effortlessly:
Obito, once he became became the Jinchuruki , casually tore that very same Four Hokage Barrier like piece of paper, with just strength of his arms:
He also destroyed gates that were also unharmed by attacks from Ten Tails by just flexing. That is above anything i saw from Luffy. Thus, i would like to know what do you think makes Luffy more durable then something that Final Form Juubi was unable to damage? Because Obito tore that in half
At best you can argue that Luffy is faster but Obito is:
1. Stronger and more durable
2. Has much better hax than Luffy
Yea luffy in base already scales to MC+ gears amp takes him multiple lvls above
Not to mention ap and durability is almost irrelevant to gear 5 due to hax durability altering hax and reality wrapping hax
Juubito is not stronger than luffy who has feats of taking dozens upon dozens of attacks from kaido even while in base form which are at least mc tier
No way Juubito is more hax than g5 ..literally his best and only arguable effective hax on g5 is TSB matter erasure which luffy has answers to
Juubito has no answer to these hax from g5
Matter manipulation & biological manipulation
Stamina manipulation
Ressurection
Damage negation
Future sight
Reality wrapping- alter other attack potency/how they function
.......
Juubito doesn't stand a chance here, he only ever did because his regeneration could carry him for a while but that's restricted here whereas multiple of g5 hax isn't ..this entire match is spite against Juubito
Juubito isn’t needed lol. White mask is enough
What?
@eredin12: Reason? What feats does Kaido have that you put above Obito/Juubi?
He's stated to be stronger than old wb
Old wb has feats calced at continental- multi continental and also scale above old shiki who has his own multi continental feats
To put it simply kaido scales to multi continental+ and base luffy can equally match kaido(so also MC) and both of them can further boost their stats by kaido using drunk phase modes and luffy using gears..and this scaling is very consistent with the other lower feats in the verse ..but I can't say the same for what ur trying to scale juubito to.
Obito has resistance to matter manipulation though, and he himself has better/more hax than Luffy does.
Except luffy has a very potent transmutation above sub atomic lvl ..that is lvls above what juubito has resisted.
Luffy has shown many haxes in gear 5 but I only listed the ones that are effective in this battle
Juubito has no answer to luffy manipulating reality to change how his attacks should work..[did this to borobreath making it incapable of damaging a piece of floor or even burning it on contact but rather just bounce off.. meanwhile same borobreath has been shown to vape a hole through onigashima island and vape mountain tops on contact and set mountain ranges on fire but couldn't do thesame to a piece of floor clearly not coated in haki]
@cosmicemperor: that Obito dies horribly to base Luffy
@edgelord91: I'm pressing X
@wk_decaff: what exactly is masked Obito doing Luffy?
Multi-continental base luffy🥵
Yes, that's the lowball calc that Vsbattle came up with: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/One_Piece:_Gomu_Gomu_no_Bajrang_Gun
And I mention them cause they soo wank Naruto, hard. So if this gave this to Luffy, it is definitely earned at least that.
what exactly is masked Obito doing Luffy?
Using Genjutsu to subdue him and Rinnegan to soul hax him. Or Genjutsu and tp to Kamui.
Because of Kamui Obito will always stay invulnerable.
Yes, that's the lowball calc that Vsbattle came up with: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/One_Piece:_Gomu_Gomu_no_Bajrang_Gun
And I mention them cause they soo wank Naruto, hard. So if this gave this to Luffy, it is definitely earned at least that.
26 km fist length...
Yes, that's the lowball calc that Vsbattle came up with: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/One_Piece:_Gomu_Gomu_no_Bajrang_Gun
And I mention them cause they soo wank Naruto, hard. So if this gave this to Luffy, it is definitely earned at least that.
so the scaling is G5 luffy > base luffy > Bajrang Gun = multi-continental???
Fodder obito was damaged by swirling wind fodder rasengan from base nardo 💀
Juubito was tiers below juubidara who gets ragdolled and blitz by Relativistic 8 Gates guy,
Base Luffy is FTL and has future sight on top of that,
FTL Base Luffy>=<FTL Thunder Bagua>>LS+ Future Sight>>>LS Basic Observation Haki>=<LS Laser from kuma
We know the answer here so IDK about what kind of wank will nardo fanboy show.
Kaido was on his knees from a Scabbard attack. One SM Naruto Rasengan and he's done.
Never happened
U haven't read op (we both know this)
Stick to wanking bc
@yray: Cope with it.
Restricting obitos regen makes this a spite matchup in luffys favour because without it i dont see jubbito survive ryuo+ adv coC combo hits from luffy..now he's just another statue about to be pummelled to death
@greythejiren: ok people are still debating whether non Shinobi can break out of genjutsu so I'll leave that. but lol at Obito landing soul rip.
He'd have to turn tangible to do that and he gets pasted the minute Luffy tags home
ok people are still debating whether non Shinobi can break out of genjutsu so I'll leave that. but lol at Obito landing soul rip.
He'd have to turn tangible to do that and he gets pasted the minute Luffy tags home
There's nothing to debate. You don't have resistance, you don't break out of it.
He can genjutsu Luffy and then turn tangible. He has good enough speed to react to Luffy's attack and turn intangible if needed. This isn't Teen Obito and your wanking FTL+++ fanfictions for OP aren't a consensus.
@greythejiren: that's not how it works. Nobody in Naruto has resistance but they can break out once they realize they're in it.
War arc Obito needs to turn tangible to touch you and he's nowhere near durable to survive a punch from Luffy. Especially considering the rinnengan has been shown to be blind sided by invisible punches before
@greythejiren: that's not how it works. Nobody in Naruto has resistance but they can break out once they realize they're in it.
War arc Obito needs to turn tangible to touch you and he's nowhere near durable to survive a punch from Luffy. Especially considering the rinnengan has been shown to be blind sided by invisible punches before
Lmao.
@eredin12: Nature Energy just allows them to bypass the Juubi Jin immunity against Ninjutsu, it is not negating their actual durability. BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke with the Curse Mark had Nature Energy too and obviously also a lot more powerful than SM Naruto but Juubito was nowhere near this messed up from their combined Majestic Susanoo attack. The reason he was from the Rasengan is because it is an internal attack.
Wasn't Big Bom inconvenienced by a motorcycle once? Like, we are not going to downplay her and everyone else to motorcycle level because of that one instance?
Obito was stated to be stronger than Juubi, his chakra arms which are weaker than his actual arms and TSB did bust a barrier that tanked attacks far above Luffy's pay grade. He also demolished BSM Naruto who previously tanked Juubi's laser in 50% Kurama.
@greythejiren: It's the OP way of life, ignore the plethora of anti feats but lets bring up SM Rasengan even tho that has context and Naruto is just powerful.
@eredin12: Don't remember that, wouldn't really make much sense, TSB interacted with Senjutsu and Sage Mode users so many times in the War arc and they didn't disintegrate on contact or something. Rasengan causes internal damage, that's the entire point, remember that scene of kid Naruto using Rasengan on a water tank?
That's because that fight was in the mental plane and Kurama and all the Bijuu are essentially a mass of chakra there so internal attacks don't mean anything. Internal attacks are only special against someone that has a physiology which Juubito does, that's why it affected him. Plus War arc SM Naruto should be stronger than SM at that point anyway.
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