Physically Luffy probably has Yamma beat, speed goes to Luffy as well, but he simply doesn’t have heat resistance feats anywhere near good enough to breath the same air as yamma let alone withstand his passive heat even with CoA, yamma vapes
Yeah no proof for Luffy coming back from getting vaped from existence, and ryou isn't doing shit to Yamamoto as he still has to make phyaical contact without getting vaped. The Old Man still solos the verse.
@snitchbuster: even Ichigo vaste Lorde kills the verse before G5 including kaido and using Yamamoto with bankai is overkill,luffy can't even with stand the hear kaido breath is nothing compared to zanka no tachi
Yama patiently stalls until Luffy runs out of Haki and stops goofing around, in which after he erases him from existence with even Shikai.
Bankai Yamamoto isn’t needed, Luffy’s AP isn’t enough to kill Base Yama, who’s FAR above Post TS Kenpachi, the guys still trading blows with Kaido for God sake.
Speaking of this.
You’d think with these multipliers that One Piece debaters use, Base Luffy who was matching Kaido with Ryou, in G4 and G5, would basically one shot him right?
Let’s say Base Luffy is continental (max wank) from trading blows with Kaido. With these multipliers, G4 and G5 Luffy should be multi-continental easily (that’s how you guys get him there) yet he’s still trading blows with a weakened Kaido, and is unable to one shot him.
Kinda makes me feel like multipliers in this case are BS.
Yama has no way to deal with the toon force. The same thing that Luffy did after being "toasted" by the Bolo Breath would be the same thing he is gonna do here.
If you add to this the enormous difference in destructive capacity in favor of Luffy, and as if that were not enough, he causes internal damage (something that Yama has no prowess to resist), frankly I don't see how he can win.
@sk27032004: VL Ichigo beat this Luffy? Some people here are trying to convince me that Luffy is above country level since Dressrosa, scaled to Chinjao who can split glaciers/ ice continent harder than steel, and so they say Luffy is currently multi-continental at bare minimum, Old WB confirmed by Sengoku can destroy the planet, since the One Piece' earth is as big as Jupiter that makes WB is a Large planet level, and Kaido is stronger than that WB is the Ace Novel.
Yama patiently stalls until Luffy runs out of Haki and stops goofing around, in which after he erases him from existence with even Shikai.
Bankai Yamamoto isn’t needed, Luffy’s AP isn’t enough to kill Base Yama, who’s FAR above Post TS Kenpachi, the guys still trading blows with Kaido for God sake.
Speaking of this.
You’d think with these multipliers that One Piece debaters use, Base Luffy who was matching Kaido with Ryou, in G4 and G5, would basically one shot him right?
Let’s say Base Luffy is continental (max wank) from trading blows with Kaido. With these multipliers, G4 and G5 Luffy should be multi-continental easily (that’s how you guys get him there) yet he’s still trading blows with a weakened Kaido, and is unable to one shot him.
Kinda makes me feel like multipliers in this case are BS.
Huh? That just shows Kaido has insane damage soak and endurance, nothing more, like all OP characters do. Just look at the Katakuri vs Luffy fight, Katakuri was initially much much stronger than Luffy and beat on him for hours on end and yet couldn't put him down.
Btw I am going to try and reply to your Kenpachi post elsewhere as I have finally got access to a computer for a brief period.
@snitchbuster: i said vaste Lorde beat everyone before G5
"even Ichigo vaste Lorde kills the verse before G5 including kaido " my statement i acknowledge that current luffy is extremely strong but he is still can't no diff kaido and Yamamoto can kill kaido before the fight even start like with release off his Bankai he will vaporize every Inch of moisture in air and when it comes to destructive power
Yamamoto have better ap than kaido with his Bankai Alone and combined with kido , bakudo #81 Dankū can block every single kaido attack and hado have so much destructive power combined with bankai they are overkill
Yama patiently stalls until Luffy runs out of Haki and stops goofing around, in which after he erases him from existence with even Shikai.
Bankai Yamamoto isn’t needed, Luffy’s AP isn’t enough to kill Base Yama, who’s FAR above Post TS Kenpachi, the guys still trading blows with Kaido for God sake.
Speaking of this.
You’d think with these multipliers that One Piece debaters use, Base Luffy who was matching Kaido with Ryou, in G4 and G5, would basically one shot him right?
Let’s say Base Luffy is continental (max wank) from trading blows with Kaido. With these multipliers, G4 and G5 Luffy should be multi-continental easily (that’s how you guys get him there) yet he’s still trading blows with a weakened Kaido, and is unable to one shot him.
Kinda makes me feel like multipliers in this case are BS.
Huh? That just shows Kaido has insane damage soak and endurance, nothing more, like all OP characters do. Just look at the Katakuri vs Luffy fight, Katakuri was initially much much stronger than Luffy and beat on him for hours on end and yet couldn't put him down.
Btw I am going to try and reply to your Kenpachi post elsewhere as I have finally got access to a computer for a brief period.
So you would say someone like G4 Luffy is higher than Kaido in AP, because in Base they were virtually equal in strength. Maybe the drunken form buffed him.
The Kenpachi post? What my planet level Kenpachi one? No way looool looking forward to it
So you would say someone like G4 Luffy is higher than Kaido in AP, because in Base they were virtually equal in strength. Maybe the drunken form buffed him.
Yes and yes, although you should also keep in mind Kaido has been fighting literally dozens of characters and stacking up damage and fatigue while levitating and moving an island.
Anyway in G5 he is strong enough to casually ragdoll Kaido as is being shown right now, the guy literally used him like a skipping rope for crying out loud. It's just that in OP, even being tiers above your opponent strength wise may not be enough to one shot them, as has been shown many many times.
Luffy tanked a blast breath before....Nothing new there.
there is no toon force here
Check a couple panels after:
Classic looney tunes response.
Orr just a simple recovery.....
Are you in denial? Have you not seen Road Runner? When has Luffy ever done that with his legs? Or instantly shaken off blacken burns? Why am I asking so many questions!?
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