Garou vs Tomura Shigaraki (Current Manga)

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Both in current Manga forms (Half Monster Garou and AFO Tomura)

Starts 1000 meters apart, Garou sees Tomura dusting Tareo so he is bloodlusted and Tomura knows someone is coming for him as he sees Garou jumping from a building, leveling it.

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Garou blitzes and oneshots.

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Garou stomps.

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Depends if Tomura can disintegrate him before he gets blitzed and one shotted

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Shigaraki decays him

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Depends if Tomura can disintegrate him before he gets blitzed and one shotted

Shigaraki reacting to post-DS Garou? no way in hell.

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Garou, no feats to suggest Shigaraki can even react to Garou.

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Hypothetically Shigaraki could win but we don't know how many powers he has. Garou blitzes and one-shots for now.

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@nwname: I reckon we should wait for some more concrete feats. Kamino Shigaraki could react to Gran Torino and Deika Shiggy could react to Re-Destro but we have nothing else to go off to say he could react to Garou's level of speed.

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Garou godstomps. Shigaraki seems like a high demon level threat and current manga Garou has beaten people like Darkshine who can one shot demons and beat immensely powerful dragons like Carnage Kabuto

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I'll back what others say and confirm Garou blitzs and one shots. No one in Boku no hero is half as fast as he is.

Speed equalized (or at least close) then Shigaraki would stomp.

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#16  Edited By SquadDoubleYou

@darthspider42: It hasn't shown limitation/s to durability yet because it hasn't affected characters with city level durability or greater which also the verse doesn't have.

Current manga Garou scales higher than DS who can beat decent dragon levels ie. Asura Kabuto, dragon levels usually have city level durability. That said, I personally don't think it could even harm Garou in a small period of time of contact which also won't happen since the battle ends in a blitz.

It's better to go feats over assumption, as we don't take Kaguya/Yhwach being omnipotents.

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Shigaraki shoud takes this.

He was really impressive in the recent chapters.

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@squaddoubleyou: Shigaraki's decay ignores durability..

It decays atoms..it doesn't matter how strong and durable you are..if u are solide then u turn to dust

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Garou blitzes

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#20  Edited By NWName

@eobard21 said:

@squaddoubleyou: Shigaraki's decay ignores durability..

It decays atoms..it doesn't matter how strong and durable you are..if u are solide then u turn to dust

I think it negates intermolecular bonds if it were on a intramolecular level it would turn water into hydrogen and oxygen etc. or if it were sub atomic it would pretty much cause nuclear fission everywhere.

There is a possibility of it not being able to break down things with bonds way stronger than the ones he decayed. We don't know for now unless there is a source that says he can break down solids no matter how durable they are, without limit.

That said i don't think this Garou is more durable than AM or AFO yet.

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Speed gap too much

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#25  Edited By Megafanflash

I think its ridiculous to assume that Decay wouldn't affect or work on Garou. The quirk is described as disintegrating whatever he touches. It will take effect whether the target is organic or not and has shown the same effect on every character and material regardless of durability. The disintegration spreads quickly and will expand unless cut off or no longer in contact with "non-decayed material".

That being said, Garou still blitzes Shigaraki's head off currently.

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#27  Edited By Eobard21  Online

@megafanflash: This fight would b better with speed equalized tbh

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Physicals in MHA can't compare to OPM. Garou stomps

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Holy shit, Shigaraki's literal power is to break down an object through decaying it and people here are like "BUT WHAT ABOUT MUH DURABILITY" like they don't know how decaying actually works.

Garou isn't even that much above Shigaraki's paygrade now, no idea where some of you thought of that. Shigaraki disintegrated the mountainous area around him, pretty safe to say Shigaraki is at least mountain level now which is enough to contend with this version of Garou.

But Garou is faster & way more skilled, so he still wins this match 6-7/10.

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I think garou has enough speed & skill 2 avoid shigaraki's touch

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#33 Eobard21  Online

@nwname: With this much distance

Shigaraki should win this

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#34  Edited By Wot_m8  Online

@faradaysloth said:

Holy shit, Shigaraki's literal power is to break down an object through decaying it and people here are like "BUT WHAT ABOUT MUH DURABILITY" like they don't know how decaying actually works.

Garou isn't even that much above Shigaraki's paygrade now, no idea where some of you thought of that. Shigaraki disintegrated the mountainous area around him, pretty safe to say Shigaraki is at least mountain level now which is enough to contend with this version of Garou.

But Garou is faster & way more skilled, so he still wins this match 6-7/10.

It's the usual OPM hype. As soon as OPM is involved, people tend to lose brain cells and just randomly start shouting as to how "CHARACTER X BLITLZES LOL GG NO RE F PHYSICALS!!"

With this much distance, no way in hell Garou can blitz Shigaraki before he releases a city-wide decay. Even if he does blitz him, the decay will kill him regardless. Also, this, "Muh Garou durability" is probably the stupidest argument I've heard in a while... and the attempt to label Decay as NLF by bringing up Thanos is just sad. A bloodsucking tick living on Thanos' body has better durability than OPM verse. They don't compare.

OT: Shigaraki kills Garou no question whatsoever. The real question is whether Garou can blitz Shigaraki before he gets dusted.

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Its seems MHA is geting a powercreep cool

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@wot_m8 said:

It's the usual OPM hype. As soon as OPM is involved, people tend to lose brain cells and just randomly start shouting as to how "CHARACTER X BLITLZES LOL GG NO RE F PHYSICALS!!"

With this much distance, no way in hell Garou can blitz Shigaraki before he releases a city-wide decay. Even if he does blitz him, the decay will kill him regardless. Also, this, "Muh Garou durability" is probably the stupidest argument I've heard in a while... and the attempt to label Decay as NLF by bringing up Thanos is just sad. A bloodsucking tick living on Thanos' body has better durability than OPM verse. They don't compare.

OT: Shigaraki kills Garou no question whatsoever. The real question is whether Garou can blitz Shigaraki before he gets dusted.

Whats wrong with that? They can bring up Old King Thor too. Why not? If its actually breaking down all solids regardless of durability he can dust both.

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Garou still blitzes and oneshots, Shiggy is barely even above bullet timing.

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Garou blitzes. This shouldn't even be a thing.

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#39  Edited By Wot_m8  Online

@nwname said:
@wot_m8 said:

It's the usual OPM hype. As soon as OPM is involved, people tend to lose brain cells and just randomly start shouting as to how "CHARACTER X BLITLZES LOL GG NO RE F PHYSICALS!!"

With this much distance, no way in hell Garou can blitz Shigaraki before he releases a city-wide decay. Even if he does blitz him, the decay will kill him regardless. Also, this, "Muh Garou durability" is probably the stupidest argument I've heard in a while... and the attempt to label Decay as NLF by bringing up Thanos is just sad. A bloodsucking tick living on Thanos' body has better durability than OPM verse. They don't compare.

OT: Shigaraki kills Garou no question whatsoever. The real question is whether Garou can blitz Shigaraki before he gets dusted.

Whats wrong with that? They can bring up Old King Thor too. Why not? If its actually breaking down all solids regardless of durability he can dust both.

Because Thanos and Garou are like 10 tiers apart. Using Thanos to claim Decay wouldn't work on him so it shouldn't on Garou is faulty logic and strawman. Garou and Shigaraki are in the same ballpark, so, unless Garou has anti-disintegration feats, he dies.

Claiming NLF only works if the character is simply too absurdly powerful against whatever hax he is paired with... example, King Thor vs Shigaraki. In this case, if I were to claim "Decay GG" it would be NLF due to the absurd power difference.

So, yes, if you wish to argue Garou can survive a hax that ignores durability, you have to provide anti said hax feats.

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Garou can blitz and one shot at the moment I would say. This can change in the upcoming chapters if shigaraki gets speed or durability feats.

Literally shigaraki could be capable of anything. He could have a bunch of quirks we haven’t seen yet.

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@jashro44: Can Garou blitz him when there's so much distance ?

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#42  Edited By jashro44

@eobard21 said:

@jashro44: Can Garou blitz him when there's so much distance ?

Admittedly I read the OP as them starting 1000ft apart. Basically comes down to how long you think Garou can close the distance though.

EDIT: Garou could also throw stuff at Shigaraki as well if he is to slow to close the distance.

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@eobard21 said:

@darthspider42: Shigaraki's decay doesn't care about durability

So could this guy kill someone like Thanos if he was restrained?

No. Thanos has resisted matter manipulation before. In like his first appearance.

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@jashro44: I hope he'll get some nice speed feats against Enji

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@jashro44: I hope he'll get some nice speed feats against Enji

He'll probably get something. I am assuming Shigaraki has more than decay but who knows. I think people are being a bit premature with judging current Deku and Shigaraki. We haven't seen much of either yet even though they both got good feats.

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@jashro44: True we barely saw them doing anything atm

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Going by current feats Garou can blitz and kill Shigaraki. However, if Tomura gets a chance to use Decay Garou would have to flee (not sure if he has the necessary travel speed to get away) or jump and attack Shiggy in a potential suicide move.

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#49  Edited By TheWatcherKing

Shigaraki is too slow by feats, that said should we get good feats from him later this arc he could win.

That said Garou isn’t killing Shigaraki, people forget this but Garou only kills monsters. He can still knock him out however

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@wot_m8 said:
@nwname said:
@wot_m8 said:

It's the usual OPM hype. As soon as OPM is involved, people tend to lose brain cells and just randomly start shouting as to how "CHARACTER X BLITLZES LOL GG NO RE F PHYSICALS!!"

With this much distance, no way in hell Garou can blitz Shigaraki before he releases a city-wide decay. Even if he does blitz him, the decay will kill him regardless. Also, this, "Muh Garou durability" is probably the stupidest argument I've heard in a while... and the attempt to label Decay as NLF by bringing up Thanos is just sad. A bloodsucking tick living on Thanos' body has better durability than OPM verse. They don't compare.

OT: Shigaraki kills Garou no question whatsoever. The real question is whether Garou can blitz Shigaraki before he gets dusted.

Whats wrong with that? They can bring up Old King Thor too. Why not? If its actually breaking down all solids regardless of durability he can dust both.

Because Thanos and Garou are like 10 tiers apart. Using Thanos to claim Decay wouldn't work on him so it shouldn't on Garou is faulty logic and strawman. Garou and Shigaraki are in the same ballpark, so, unless Garou has anti-disintegration feats, he dies.

Claiming NLF only works if the character is simply too absurdly powerful against whatever hax he is paired with... example, King Thor vs Shigaraki. In this case, if I were to claim "Decay GG" it would be NLF due to the absurd power difference.

So, yes, if you wish to argue Garou can survive a hax that ignores durability, you have to provide anti said hax feats.

Thats irrelevant. The argument was, the durability did not matter due to the nature of the attack which is indeed a NLF (unless there is a source). Saying decay would work on Garou, who is commonly claimed to be more durable than the entire MHA verse (not true imo), without giving a reason/feats and solely basing it on "thats the nature of the power" is the same as doing it againts OKT. If it ignores durability it doesnt matter if the durability of the opponent is a million times better than a human or octillions of times better.