VS
Rules:
Current Manga Garou
True Bankai Ichigo
In character
Garou can see and attack Ichigo
Win by KO or Death
Location: Namek
EoS Ichigo Stomps the vers bar Saitama.
VL Ichigo will be a better match being Planet level like Garou.
@sky__warrior: are you talking about hellverse VL Ichigo? Cause the canon one should not be anywhere above country level
@sky__warrior: are you talking about hellverse VL Ichigo? Cause the canon one should not be anywhere above country level
Canon one scale to Planet as Ichigo in EoS can take on a glactic level threat with Yhwach
The Hell verse may be non-canon but their feats isn't, to put it simply, the things Ichigo demonstrated would have happened if it wasn't in the movie. Since VL Ichigo didn't have enough canon screen time, they had to give VL a movie to show what he can do.
Personally speaking I think VL Ichigo is on the same plane field as Garou and Boros if we try to compare all of Ichigo transformations vs the other S-class and monsters.
@sky__warrior: hope you are being ironic
@sky__warrior: are you talking about hellverse VL Ichigo? Cause the canon one should not be anywhere above country level
You'd be surprised how there are ways to get him way higher via backwards scaling.
ah yes garou with his factual on panel feats vs strawberry with his...what feats?
One shotting SK Yhwach, who easily has above planet level durability and internals due to Bleach Spiritual Power mechanics.
I’ll explain.
Exerting too much power in Bleach can cause your body to blow up and destroy itself, and that having too much power in your body can cause it to just explode anyway, shown on numerous occasions:
That obviously means SK Yhwach is tanking his internal energy, the Soul King husk’s energy, here’s some feats for this energy:
Secondly, he’s exerting himself here getting ready to destroy the boundaries, which are easily a planetary sized structure, and which explosions that pushed the Bleach worlds back (slightly below planet level explosions) couldn’t remove:
He’s exerting this force and his body isn’t destroyed meaning he can tank this energy:
He’s obviously exerting his reiatsu to do this, I mean can it get any clearer.
Ichigo one shots him prior to this:
Meaning his Bankai Getsuga Tensho is far above planet level in potency, and he was nerfed here (no HoS, severely weakened)
So yes, he has feats.
They aren’t as clear and as flashy as OPM, they do require some context and insight, and at times confusing.
If you aren’t sure what the feat is:
He one shot someone who can tank forces that can destroy planetary sized structures that tank planetary explosions.
AP goes to Ichigo if you not ratting. Speed I think goes to Garou though, depending on what calc/scale you using.
ah yes garou with his factual on panel feats vs strawberry with his...what feats?
One shotting SK Yhwach, who easily has above planet level durability and internals due to Bleach Spiritual Power mechanics.
I’ll explain.
Exerting too much power in Bleach can cause your body to blow up and destroy itself, and that having too much power in your body can cause it to just explode anyway, shown on numerous occasions:
That obviously means SK Yhwach is tanking his internal energy, the Soul King husk’s energy, here’s some feats for this energy:
Secondly, he’s exerting himself here getting ready to destroy the boundaries, which are easily a planetary sized structure, and which explosions that pushed the Bleach worlds back (slightly below planet level explosions) couldn’t remove:
He’s exerting this force and his body isn’t destroyed meaning he can tank this energy:
He’s obviously exerting his reiatsu to do this, I mean can it get any clearer.
Ichigo one shots him prior to this:
Meaning his Bankai Getsuga Tensho is far above planet level in potency, and he was nerfed here (no HoS, severely weakened)
So yes, he has feats.
They aren’t as clear and as flashy as OPM, they do require some context and insight, and at times confusing.
If you aren’t sure what the feat is:
He one shot someone who can tank forces that can destroy planetary sized structures that tank planetary explosions.
i see nothing plantery in there
Garou.
Like i know people like to Cals and stuff but he has on panel feats to show is speed power and defense. The damn move he did literally bulge out the planet. Just moving part of the actual crust is billions of tons of force bare minimum....
Honestly seems like Murata drew it that way so there would be no doubt to his power and I like it.
Garou is FTL confirmed
Garou is Bare minimum Multi Continental.
All Ichigo has is scaling and that varies from person to person. I'd rather take facts rather than vagueness.
i see nothing plantery in there
That’s why I said it is confusing sometimes (to you). I’ll explain using the novels and the canon movie, so you know that it is planetary.
1. The boundaries:
I mean it literally says the real world and Soul Society are being stabilised on panel mate. You can just say you didn’t wanna read the post.
What’s happening here is explosions are being used to push both worlds apart, which is small planetary.
2. Energy being used as fuel
…act as fuel to make the system that made the three realms, The Soul Society, the world of the living, and Hueco Mundo, continue…
Literally means the Soul Kings energy is being used as fuel so planets can continue to exist. There’s nothing unclear here.
If you wanna see more planetary stuff, look here:
Boundaries (the red picture above) almost being destroyed without the Soul King’s energy. Not a planetary AP feat, but this is on a planetary scale no?
A force surrounding the world? Causing earthquakes worldwide greater than any earthquake ever recorded on earth (unprecedented) is this not planetary?
3. Boundary removal
As I just showed you above, the boundaries tanked small planet level blasts mate, can’t get any clearer than that, it’s literally as clear as OPM feats mate.
Yhwach was going to remove them:
With his reiatsu (his power, as he shows and says on panel)
Here’s the point mate.
We BOTH know no planet was destroyed ‘on panel’ in canon Bleach. We all know this.
Bur we are told VERBATIM planets and planetary sized structures with planet level durability are almost destroyed, and that a God tier plans to remove these same boundaries with his own Reiatsu, meaning his AP and durability is above planet level.
Like, do you need someone to spell it out for you?
Garou.
Like i know people like to Cals and stuff but he has on panel feats to show is speed power and defense. The damn move he did literally bulge out the planet. Just moving part of the actual crust is billions of tons of force bare minimum....
Honestly seems like Murata drew it that way so there would be no doubt to his power and I like it.
Garou is FTL confirmed
Garou is Bare minimum Multi Continental.
All Ichigo has is scaling and that varies from person to person. I'd rather take facts rather than vagueness.
Can you tell me what’s vague about this?
Explosions pushing back worlds, they take no damage:
Yhwach was going to remove them with his power:
What’s vague about this?
This is why bleach is cancer.
How so?
I see this a lot and I genuinely don’t understand the problem with claiming someone is planet level, when they say they are going to perform a planetary feat? It seems like the most obvious thing you can do, which is try to support character statements with evidence…?
Garou blitz and one shots.
His physical feat is better than HST feats. It also somewhat ignores durability.
Garou seems to be able to copy stats (to an extend, at least), so, even if Ichigo would have the AP advantage, eventuallg Garou would match him and then outmatch him.
Honestly maybe.
Or maybe not.
Zangetsu has shown resistance to this type of stuff, as due to it’s irregular power, it was only able to be copied in appearance but not power:
There’s no evidence Garou would be able to do what Enrakyoten couldn’t? Yes Garou’s copying abilities are extremely powerful but considering it’s irregular power it seems like Zangetsu is immune to that sorta stuff.
Ichigo is a brick. Garou has hax and much better stats. Also actual on panel feats and not only scaling and statements.
Much weaker characters like Tatsumaki would stomp Ichigo, let alone Garou. Stop making these mismatches.
Garou seems to be able to copy stats (to an extend, at least), so, even if Ichigo would have the AP advantage, eventuallg Garou would match him and then outmatch him.
Honestly maybe.
Or maybe not.
Zangetsu has shown resistance to this type of stuff, as due to it’s irregular power, it was only able to be copied in appearance but not power:
There’s no evidence Garou would be able to do what Enrakyoten couldn’t? Yes Garou’s copying abilities are extremely powerful but considering it’s irregular power it seems like Zangetsu is immune to that sorta stuff.
That's irrelevant, Garou has every stat advantage, skill advantage and actually has hax unlike Ichigo. Even Tatsumaki would stomp Ichigo and you know that.
Garou>>>>>Boros>>>>>Tats>>>>Ichigo
Do the math
Garou>>>>>>>>>Boros>>>>Tats>>>>>SK Yhwach too?
Ridiculous.
That's irrelevant, Garou has every stat advantage
I completely disagree. I actually think Ichigo is above him by a considerable margin due to being above Yhwach.
skill advantage and actually has hax unlike Ichigo.
100%. Got those in the bag.
Even Tatsumaki would stomp Ichigo and you know that.
LOOL I know what mate?
Ichigo would shrug off her TK the same way he shrugged off Kurohitsugi, as Kurohitsugi >>>> Tatsumaki TK potency. He literally just forces his way through it. Garou is a far more contentious matchup, and I’d CaV it.
Ichigo would shrug off her TK the same way he shrugged off Kurohitsugi, as Kurohitsugi >>>> Tatsumaki TK potency. He literally just forces his way through it.
Tatsumaki has much better feats than Kurohitsugi. Actually Kurohitsugi is almost featless. Knowning Bleach there probably some statements or fan calculations that put Kurohitsugi at galaxy level or something but... nobody cares.
Ichigo bodies
Ichigo forcing SK Yhwach to get serious>>>
With help from another characters... One of them being Aizen.
Tatsumaki has much better feats than Kurohitsugi.
I said the potency of Kurohitsugi is far greater than her TK. Don’t shift the goal posts. Can Tatsumaki produce a gravitational force that can reduce things to atoms? It’s a better feat.
Actually Kurohitsugi is almost featless.
No it isn’t, it literally did on panel exactly what it is said to do, which is reduce things to atoms using gravity, and it did, it left no trace.
Knowning Bleach there probably some statements or fan calculations that put Kurohitsugi at galaxy level or something but... nobody cares.
Then it’s clear you don’t know Bleach. Kurohitsugi is quantifiably calculated at high multi-continental, which is what it takes to atomise something in a given area with just gravity:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:GDEM/Hadō_90:_Kurohitsugi
7291202e+27 Joules (Multi-Continent level, High 6-A)
Which is indeed more potent than anything Tatsumaki has done or dealt with. Hell, just for fun, let’s push EoS Chair Aizen to moon level casually because he performed the feat through Eishohaki (no incantation):
Eishohaki makes kido three times as weak:
Let‘s see what you’ve got for Tatsumaki. Is it multi-continental?
garou negs the hill lvl verse
Get Garou’s cosmic chode out of your vocal cords
Ichigo would shrug off her TK the same way he shrugged off Kurohitsugi, as Kurohitsugi >>>> Tatsumaki TK potency. He literally just forces his way through it.
Tatsumaki has much better feats than Kurohitsugi. Actually Kurohitsugi is almost featless. Knowning Bleach there probably some statements or fan calculations that put Kurohitsugi at galaxy level or something but... nobody cares.
Genuinely feel bad for Ninja, man's out here establishing the planetary+ Bleach god tier meta in every thread of this type........only for it all to revert back to Tatsumaki still stomps in the very next one. Must be like living in Groundhog Day.
Kurohitsugi >>>> Tatsumaki TK potency.
Please Log In to post.
Log in to comment