Gamora vs Gorgon vs Wolverine vs Iron Fist

Gorgon or Iron Fist.

A non jobbing Gorgon could take this if he fights smart. Oh and btw, that isn't 616 Gamora, that's Earth 726 Gamora.

Comes down to Gorgon and Danny. I think Danny might win if he uses his chi at full power

my bad, well for this fight its 616 Gamora

gamora wins this

bump

wolverine then gorgan then ironfist then gamora.

Any particular reason for that order?

Bump

Gamora or maybe Iron Fist with full use of powers.

This is a tough one. Probably Iron Fist, but tbh, I don't know.

@supermanwithatan01: wolverine is the most skilled durable one here fallowed by gorgon if he isn't jobbing

I think a case could be made for Danny being the most skilled here.

@supermanwithatan01: sure a case could be made for anyone in this fight thats why it's a good fight. i am just giving you my opinion. i was convinced by there sparing match and fights wolverine have had with other similarly skilled opponents like shangchi and other chi using kungfu folk. that wolverine is more skilled. put that with danny getting caught off gaurd by sue in there training match and lashing out at her a relatively inexperienced fighter in terms of martial arts. and i choose to give logan the nod. i understand an even more direct argument can be made for gorgon he trashed logan there first fight and gave him a hell of a fight in the big rematch. but wolverine has a bigger body of work beating more accomplished fighters and gorgon has jobbed to much since then.

very well said!

Bump

Iron Fist.

If they are all at their prime, then Gorgon should win.

@jay_z94: any particular order?

@supermanwithatan01: Gorgon first, Logan and Danny can go either way, Gamora is last.

Gamora stomps

I don’t see anyone stomping

Danny his he has far more ways to hit people and doesn't need to even connect to KO someone like Flea out who is a top tier fighter (according to taskmaster and a 10 tonner

@slimj87d: think he can take Gamora?

Gamora is someone who can hurt people like Ms. Marvel, Ronan and Classic Drax, what chance do the rest even have against her?

@supermanwithatan01: What can Gamora do to overcome his chi powers? If he's not holding back, he can phase through people and punch their organs. He can ignite and explode a room. He can hit someone hard enough with a giant dragon without touching them and they end up bending a car in half.

@slimj87d: well it’s my understanding she’s “at least as skilled”, physically superior and she can tank pretty much anything he can throw at her. Then again I sincerely don’t know too much about her and I’ve seen solid arguments both ways.

Also the Danny phasing thing, are there any other instances, that’s a bit confusing to me.

Gamora...

Though most of her hype is based on statements, I believe h has more credible martial arts feats.

@supermanwithatan01:

Striking is more important than strength, and he exceeds and outclasses her in striking. Chi amped, he'd quite durable himself. He's won a martial arts tournament with arrows in his chest, got hit from one mountain to another and got slammed through 6 stories of concrete.

Puck is a 10 tonner and Taskmaster said he's one of the best martial artist iirc, and IF took quick work of him.

Black Tarantula is also one of the most skilled members of the hand and is a 30 tonner iirc, and IF handled him no problem either.

Strength doesn't get in Danny's way when he can strike you with a level 75+ tonner strike.

Gorgon wins.

Is there any reason Gamora wouldn't come in last here? Logan's claws and Gorgon's sword should make her durability meaningless.

@saren: think danny could take her or just the other 2?

@slimj87d: excellent points, do you believe him to be the most skilled here?

@supermanwithatan01: I don't know as much about Danny, so I can't say.

@saren: ah, well I appreciate ya anyway

@slimj87d: also anymore information in his phasing or what that’s about?

@supermanwithatan01: no, they're all pretty much on par with one another in skill.

Gorgon has the pre-cog and speed though. But IF has the mouse damage output, the only one that can fight at a range, control the tempo and bend cars in half with a giant dragon without having to directly touch a person.

IF has the long and medium range advantage.

Gamora solos.

Iron Fist

She has a pretty good healing factor as well so I don't see that working. They also have to tag her and she was fast enough to keep pace with Angela

I believe, in terms of pure skill, that its Tomi = Danny (slightly) > Logan > Gamora.

While Gamora has the most physical advantages, Logan has the best healing factor and is the toughest, Tomis speed advantage and equal skill with Danny, that Danny can amp himself to match any of them stat wise, plus his skill being at least on par with each of them, or possibly greater (imo), and each having an "X" factor, that it's close but I'd give him the nod.

Seriously people are voting Rand and Gorgon?

Keeps up with and briefly matches Angela

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manages to tank a few of her hits and even hurt her in return. In the same story she was casually tearing apart Groot.

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tanks a punch from Mona Spectrum and hurts her with a palm strike

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tanks a hit from Ronan who hits ridiculously harder than Rand

like I can see a situation where Logan wins due to his healing factor but Rand and Gorgon???

@_kingoflatveria: just so I can understand the context of a few things or get some better examples:

- I don’t see her matching Angela, she got like 2-3 blocks in and a kick, but was pretty much dominated. There was nothing suggest Danny or Tomi or even Logan could replicate that exact feat, based on those scans.

- idk the context of that scan but she kicked Carol and bloodied her. Danny did just fine against the wrecking crew, destroyed the hellicarrier which is impressive display of force, knocked the more durable and stronger Skaar like 30 feet back crashing through things, and KOd a skyscraper sized god... again, it’s not hard to believe he could hit or kick Carol to the exact same or possibly worse effect.

- no idea who Mona Spectrum is..

- Star Lord took hits from Ronan and even outmaneuvered him for awhile. I believe he could easily survive the same force based on the end result. Also I’ve seen solid arguements made for Danny’s hits being class 75 and maybe 100.

I’m not saying you’re wrong about her winning, but pretending it’s laughable that someone with striking feats in the ballpark of Ronin, speed at least matching her, actual feet’s of skill surpassing her (without just statements), isn’t a good game plan. Also the stigma about Danny’s endurance/durability is definitely overdone given his more recent feats and the consistency over the past 10 years when he’s not screwing around.

Do you have any actual skill feats of her fighting reputable fighters?

@slimj87d: can you post some scans of Danny’s striking feats that should suffice in hurting her? For @_kingoflatveria

@supermanwithatan01:

I don’t see her matching Angela, she got like 2-3 blocks in and a kick, but was pretty much dominated. There was nothing suggest Danny or Tomi or even Logan could replicate that exact feat, based on those scans.

she's matching her in a duel of blades. That requires strength. Where did Logan, Gorgon, or Rand match someone who can hurt Thor Odinson with their strikes?

in the same story she was casually tearing apart Groot with her swings

Seriously how is Rand, Gorgon, or Logan replicating this? Angela could match Thordis with her sword swings... and also keep up with her. The same Thordis who can perform feats like this(1<<<

idk the context of that scan but she kicked Carol and bloodied her.

the context is that Carol was trying to talk sense into her due to keeping Thanos' location a secret from her and she didn't care and kicked her.

Star Lord took hits from Ronan and even outmaneuvered him for awhile.

which is a feat for Star-Lord, when he first appeared he was cybernetically enhanced. Seemed to have been retconned after the GOTG movie.

knocked the more durable and stronger Skaar like 30 feet back crashing through things,

You do know Skaar was holding back? And was playing along with the Avengers on Capt. America's orders. I'm not buying Rand send a Hulk who could get up after hits from Green Scar was sent 30 feet back by Rand while braced. The rest are good feats.

Do you have any actual skill feats of her fighting reputable fighters?

Fighting Angela,

Beating Phyla-vell

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Nerve Strike on Thanos ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ lul

other than hype she doesn't have much but she's still ridiculously stronger, more durable and faster than everyone here. I seriously do not see why she can't solo all 3.

She could dance around faster characters like Venom.

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also sorry that was Miss America not Monica Sepctrum. Been a while since I read ultimates

@supermanwithatan01: I don't know... How much of it has to do with Tomi having pre-cog and Tomi being more skilled?

I'm not saying he isn't skilled but of you took his pre-cog away, he'd have far slower reaction time than he does. I'd argue if he lost his pre-cog, Logan would have stood a much better chance against him.

Gamora wins.