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#1 Posted by Hadrelius (8097 posts) - - Show Bio

One Above All:

Cosmic power on an indeterminable scale. Ability to perform virtually any feat.

Galactus:

Possessor of the Power Cosmic.

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#2 Posted by Brainiac1.0 (448 posts) - - Show Bio

But was the one above all the strongest in marvel

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#3 Posted by Dr. Victor von Doom (3062 posts) - - Show Bio

Brainiac1.0 says:

"But was the one above all the strongest in marvel"

thats the wrong one. there are two.

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#4 Posted by Dr. Victor von Doom (3062 posts) - - Show Bio

Kain Echnida says:

"I believe the One Above All Celestial is the strongest of all Celestial and he may be able to take out Galactus even though Galactus has been show to take out multiple Celestials at once."

Meh, Galactus was created by Phoenix and i don't see Galactus going toe to toe with OAL

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#5 Posted by Kain Echnida (1587 posts) - - Show Bio

I believe the One Above All Celestial is the strongest of all Celestial and he may be able to take out Galactus even though Galactus has been show to take out multiple Celestials at once.

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#6 Posted by Kain Echnida (1587 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Victor von Doom says:

"Kain Echnida says:
"I believe the One Above All Celestial is the strongest of all Celestial and he may be able to take out Galactus even though Galactus has been show to take out multiple Celestials at once."
Meh, Galactus was created by Phoenix and i don't see Galactus going toe to toe with OAL"

Galactus wasn't created by Phoenix.

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#7 Posted by Cap America (98 posts) - - Show Bio

Kain Echnida says:

"Dr. Victor von Doom says:
"Kain Echnida says:
"I believe the One Above All Celestial is the strongest of all Celestial and he may be able to take out Galactus even though Galactus has been show to take out multiple Celestials at once."
Meh, Galactus was created by Phoenix and i don't see Galactus going toe to toe with OAL"

Galactus wasn't created by Phoenix."

http://en.marveldatabase.com/Galactus_(Earth-616)

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#9 Posted by Cap America (98 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah well tough cookie :D

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#10 Posted by Kain Echnida (1587 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap America says:

"Yeah well tough cookie :D"

Your dead. Galactus was made by Phoenix (still bullshit in my opinion), and Spider-Man was retconned. What else is next?

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#11 Posted by Kain Echnida (1587 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap America says:

"Kain Echnida says:
"Cap America says:
"Yeah well tough cookie :D"
Your dead. Galactus was made by Phoenix (still bullshit in my opinion), and Spider-Man was retconned. What else is next?"
There never was a earth 616 because they were SKrulls to begin with!?"

You're killin me Steve. I'm already sad because of what Marvel's done. LoL.

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#12 Posted by Forever (4313 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap America says:

"http://en.marveldatabase.com/Galactus_(Earth-616)"

Show me where it says Phoenix created Galactus. Even if we were to take this site as the overriding word from Marvel on Galactus' origin, what I saw was that the Phoenix Force gathered all of the existing sentient life together as the universe imploded allowing the life essences to survive. Prior to that point Galen was gathering energy and becoming more than he was before and after the universe imploded and subsequently expanded, there was no mention made to Phoenix actually taking a hand in the development of what would become Galactus. So I wouldnt go so far as to say that the Phoenix Force created Galactus.

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#13 Posted by Kain Echnida (1587 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap America says:

"Maybe it will come out that the Ultimate Universe might be the real one! and then everything would be good again!! no retcons no stupid deaths :D "

I hate the Ultimate Universe.

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#14 Posted by Cap America (98 posts) - - Show Bio

Kain Echnida says:

"Cap America says:
"Yeah well tough cookie :D"

Your dead. Galactus was made by Phoenix (still bullshit in my opinion), and Spider-Man was retconned. What else is next?"

There never was a earth 616 because they were SKrulls to begin with!?

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#15 Posted by Cap America (98 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe it will come out that the Ultimate Universe might be the real one! and then everything would be good again!! no retcons no stupid deaths :D

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#16 Posted by Forever (4313 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap America says:

"... quiet, think than stop and think again. "So I wouldnt go so far as to say that the Phoenix Force created Galactus." Thats what the Phoenix is, if your thinkinhg about the host crap with Jean Grey than your on the wrong train here."

I'm not even considering Jean Grey. I'm using Phoenix Force and Phoenix interchangably, ignoring Jean Grey, who wasn't around at the time. Stop and look at what Phoenix did and whether that is considered creating someone or something. Gathering life force and then doing nothing else after that would not be considered creating anything in my opinion.

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#17 Posted by Cap America (98 posts) - - Show Bio

Forever says:

"Cap America says:
"http://en.marveldatabase.com/Galactus_(Earth-616)"

Show me where it says Phoenix created Galactus. Even if we were to take this site as the overriding word from Marvel on Galactus' origin, what I saw was that the Phoenix Force gathered all of the existing sentient life together as the universe imploded allowing the life essences to survive. Prior to that point Galen was gathering energy and becoming more than he was before and after the universe imploded and subsequently expanded, there was no mention made to Phoenix actually taking a hand in the development of what would become Galactus. So I wouldnt go so far as to say that the Phoenix Force created Galactus."

... quiet, think than stop and think again.

"So I wouldnt go so far as to say that the Phoenix Force created Galactus."

Thats what the Phoenix is, if your thinkinhg about the host crap with Jean Grey than your on the wrong train here.

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#18 Posted by Cap America (98 posts) - - Show Bio

Kain Echnida says:

"Cap America says:
"Maybe it will come out that the Ultimate Universe might be the real one! and then everything would be good again!! no retcons no stupid deaths :D "

I hate the Ultimate Universe. "

But im still alive :D and spideys history is not a mess... okay he has clones and all that... but cmon at least he still gets to fight symbiotes now and then :D

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#19 Posted by Cap America (98 posts) - - Show Bio

... well than thats your opinon fine who cares? Oppinions are like @$$holes everyone has them :D

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#20 Posted by Forever (4313 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap America says:

"... well than thats your opinon fine who cares? Oppinions are like @$$holes everyone has them :D"

lol, That's true enough. But to make a definitive statement you have to have more than opinion. And without there being more to substantiate the claim that Phoenix created Galactus, that assertion would be pure opinion.

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#21 Posted by Kain Echnida (1587 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap America says:

"Forever says:
"Cap America says:
"http://en.marveldatabase.com/Galactus_(Earth-616)"
Show me where it says Phoenix created Galactus. Even if we were to take this site as the overriding word from Marvel on Galactus' origin, what I saw was that the Phoenix Force gathered all of the existing sentient life together as the universe imploded allowing the life essences to survive. Prior to that point Galen was gathering energy and becoming more than he was before and after the universe imploded and subsequently expanded, there was no mention made to Phoenix actually taking a hand in the development of what would become Galactus. So I wouldnt go so far as to say that the Phoenix Force created Galactus."
... quiet, think than stop and think again. "So I wouldnt go so far as to say that the Phoenix Force created Galactus." Thats what the Phoenix is, if your thinkinhg about the host crap with Jean Grey than your on the wrong train here."

I'm looking at it right now and in the origin of Galactus, there's nothing about Phoenix creating him. He was in a giant cube because he went on a journey to save his planet and massive amounts of cosmic energy were absorbed by him, so goes the dialogue and explanation of The Watcher.

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#22 Posted by Cap America (98 posts) - - Show Bio

Kain Echnida says:

"Cap America says:
"Forever says:
"Cap America says:
"http://en.marveldatabase.com/Galactus_(Earth-616)"
Show me where it says Phoenix created Galactus. Even if we were to take this site as the overriding word from Marvel on Galactus' origin, what I saw was that the Phoenix Force gathered all of the existing sentient life together as the universe imploded allowing the life essences to survive. Prior to that point Galen was gathering energy and becoming more than he was before and after the universe imploded and subsequently expanded, there was no mention made to Phoenix actually taking a hand in the development of what would become Galactus. So I wouldnt go so far as to say that the Phoenix Force created Galactus."
... quiet, think than stop and think again. "So I wouldnt go so far as to say that the Phoenix Force created Galactus." Thats what the Phoenix is, if your thinkinhg about the host crap with Jean Grey than your on the wrong train here."

I'm looking at it right now and in the origin of Galactus, there's nothing about Phoenix creating him. He was in a giant cube because he went on a journey to save his planet and massive amounts of cosmic energy were absorbed by him, so goes the dialogue and explanation of The Watcher."

And that which he was embodied in was the Cosmic Egg that Phoenix made to create Galactus from a so called Galan that was once a mear person.

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#23 Posted by Kain Echnida (1587 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap America says:

"Kain Echnida says:
"Cap America says:
"Forever says:
"Cap America says:
"http://en.marveldatabase.com/Galactus_(Earth-616)"
Show me where it says Phoenix created Galactus. Even if we were to take this site as the overriding word from Marvel on Galactus' origin, what I saw was that the Phoenix Force gathered all of the existing sentient life together as the universe imploded allowing the life essences to survive. Prior to that point Galen was gathering energy and becoming more than he was before and after the universe imploded and subsequently expanded, there was no mention made to Phoenix actually taking a hand in the development of what would become Galactus. So I wouldnt go so far as to say that the Phoenix Force created Galactus."
... quiet, think than stop and think again. "So I wouldnt go so far as to say that the Phoenix Force created Galactus." Thats what the Phoenix is, if your thinkinhg about the host crap with Jean Grey than your on the wrong train here."
I'm looking at it right now and in the origin of Galactus, there's nothing about Phoenix creating him. He was in a giant cube because he went on a journey to save his planet and massive amounts of cosmic energy were absorbed by him, so goes the dialogue and explanation of The Watcher."
And that which he was embodied in was the Cosmic Egg that Phoenix made to create Galactus from a so called Galan that was once a mear person."

Phoenix came along after Galactus though. I don't recall anything about the Phoenix being around during the creation of Galactus. The Watch would've noticed that.

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#24 Posted by Kain Echnida (1587 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap America says:

"Kain Echnida says:
"Cap America says:
"Forever says:
"Cap America says:
"http://en.marveldatabase.com/Galactus_(Earth-616)"
Show me where it says Phoenix created Galactus. Even if we were to take this site as the overriding word from Marvel on Galactus' origin, what I saw was that the Phoenix Force gathered all of the existing sentient life together as the universe imploded allowing the life essences to survive. Prior to that point Galen was gathering energy and becoming more than he was before and after the universe imploded and subsequently expanded, there was no mention made to Phoenix actually taking a hand in the development of what would become Galactus. So I wouldnt go so far as to say that the Phoenix Force created Galactus."
... quiet, think than stop and think again. "So I wouldnt go so far as to say that the Phoenix Force created Galactus." Thats what the Phoenix is, if your thinkinhg about the host crap with Jean Grey than your on the wrong train here."
I'm looking at it right now and in the origin of Galactus, there's nothing about Phoenix creating him. He was in a giant cube because he went on a journey to save his planet and massive amounts of cosmic energy were absorbed by him, so goes the dialogue and explanation of The Watcher."
And that which he was embodied in was the Cosmic Egg that Phoenix made to create Galactus from a so called Galan that was once a mear person."

Phoenix came along after Galactus though. I don't recall anything about the Phoenix being around during the creation of Galactus. The Watch would've noticed that.

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#25 Posted by Cap America (98 posts) - - Show Bio

Kain Echnida says:

"Cap America says:
"Kain Echnida says:
"Cap America says:
"Forever says:
"Cap America says:
"http://en.marveldatabase.com/Galactus_(Earth-616)"
Show me where it says Phoenix created Galactus. Even if we were to take this site as the overriding word from Marvel on Galactus' origin, what I saw was that the Phoenix Force gathered all of the existing sentient life together as the universe imploded allowing the life essences to survive. Prior to that point Galen was gathering energy and becoming more than he was before and after the universe imploded and subsequently expanded, there was no mention made to Phoenix actually taking a hand in the development of what would become Galactus. So I wouldnt go so far as to say that the Phoenix Force created Galactus."
... quiet, think than stop and think again. "So I wouldnt go so far as to say that the Phoenix Force created Galactus." Thats what the Phoenix is, if your thinkinhg about the host crap with Jean Grey than your on the wrong train here."
I'm looking at it right now and in the origin of Galactus, there's nothing about Phoenix creating him. He was in a giant cube because he went on a journey to save his planet and massive amounts of cosmic energy were absorbed by him, so goes the dialogue and explanation of The Watcher."
And that which he was embodied in was the Cosmic Egg that Phoenix made to create Galactus from a so called Galan that was once a mear person."

Phoenix came along after Galactus though. I don't recall anything about the Phoenix being around during the creation of Galactus. The Watch would've noticed that."

The Phoenix IS the Phoenix force for crying out loud

http://en.marveldatabase.com/Phoenix_Force_(Earth-616)

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#26 Posted by Brainiac1.0 (448 posts) - - Show Bio

How can galactus beat the one above all. I thought the one above all is the strongest in marvel.

The pheonix has beat galctus BUT the key word was a atraving galactus look at this

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#27 Posted by Agony (5836 posts) - - Show Bio

notice guys its one above all

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#28 Posted by Phoenix God (415 posts) - - Show Bio

Brainiac1.0 says:

"How can galactus beat the one above all. I thought the one above all is the strongest in marvel. The pheonix has beat galctus BUT the key word was a atraving galactus look at this
" />http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e2/Galactus.jpg"

That is also Rachel Summers/Grey, not Jean Grey. There is a difference. And if I recall correctly, he was on his way to feed, but she fought him so long that he became weak from hunger and could not win; and Rachel was only allowed an uber-tiny portion of the Phoenix power- only the power that she could control. So yes Galactus needed to feed, but every character has their problems. Cyclops and Superman need the sun. Hulk has to get angry (generally). Rogue has to actually get close to someone to do damage with absorbing powers. ETC. All characters have their weak spot. And besides, how many other characters can fight Galactus at all, let alone to the point he can't fight anymore and beat him?

And about the Phoenix creating Galactus, if you read www.marvel.com, it says that Galan and his people were about to be killed when the Phoenix came along, saved his life, gave him energy, put him into the egg- hence Galactus.

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#29 Posted by Hadrelius (8097 posts) - - Show Bio

Phoenix God says:

"Brainiac1.0 says:
"How can galactus beat the one above all. I thought the one above all is the strongest in marvel. The pheonix has beat galctus BUT the key word was a atraving galactus look at this
That" />http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e2/Galactus.jpg"
That is also Rachel Summers/Grey, not Jean Grey. There is a difference. And if I recall correctly, he was on his way to feed, but she fought him so long that he became weak from hunger and could not win; and Rachel was only allowed an uber-tiny portion of the Phoenix power- only the power that she could control. So yes Galactus needed to feed, but every character has their problems. Cyclops and Superman need the sun. Hulk has to get angry (generally). Rogue has to actually get close to someone to do damage with absorbing powers. ETC. All characters have their weak spot. And besides, how many other characters can fight Galactus at all, let alone to the point he can't fight anymore and beat him? And about the Phoenix creating Galactus, if you read www.marvel.com, it says that Galan and his people were about to be killed when the Phoenix came along, saved his life, gave him energy, put him into the egg- hence Galactus. "

The Eternity of the previous universe created Galactus. What's all this about the Pheonix Force? How could a being of lesser power create Galactus?

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#30 Posted by Hadrelius (8097 posts) - - Show Bio

Alos, the Celestial One Above All is not the being One Above All that the Living Tribunal works for.

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#31 Posted by Vendel (372 posts) - - Show Bio

The Celestial wins.

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#32 Posted by Static Shock (53045 posts) - - Show Bio

Trauma says:

"notice guys its one above all"

It's the Celestial One Above All that's being debated, not the One About All that's considered God.

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#33 Posted by Xeron (323 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus via absorbtion, I do not believe the one above all is more powerful than Exitar.

After all Captain America is Thor's boss in the avengers but Cap is not it's most powerful member.

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#34 Posted by Ziro (1357 posts) - - Show Bio

Undecided(I'm inclined to believe it heavily depends on Galactus' power level).
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#35 Posted by Emerald_General_Jai (2480 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm....I want Galactus to win. 

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#36 Posted by SilverGalford (3422 posts) - - Show Bio
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#37 Posted by lagoon_boy (11337 posts) - - Show Bio
The One Above All should take out Galactus, starving or full power
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#38 Posted by Baldy (4960 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus could win this as he's beaten celestials before and we don't really know how powerful OAA is.

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#39 Posted by Surge2477 (1118 posts) - - Show Bio

GALAN WINS
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#40 Posted by lord_oraculous016 (9449 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus.. no celestial can take him on.. 
 
note: this is the One Above All (Celestial) not the TOAA (Supreme Being)

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#41 Edited by Goenitz (2066 posts) - - Show Bio

lord_oraculous016: Galactus.. no celestial can take him on.. note: this is the One Above All (Celestial) not the TOAA (Supreme Being) 
Agreed

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#42 Posted by lagoon_boy (11337 posts) - - Show Bio
I would have to disagree,
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#43 Posted by why so serious (1379 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus would have to be close to full power to defeat the Celestial One-Above-All.
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#44 Posted by RiseofApocalypse (4095 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Celestial Arc all over again. Galactus eats TOAA.

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#45 Posted by cosmic_reign (3675 posts) - - Show Bio

the Prime Celestial wins here...

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#46 Posted by silverr (51 posts) - - Show Bio

I heard The one above all can't be defeated even by all of the beings in the universe, I hate galactus, and everyone else should for the fact that he's a selfish villain, he's a dumbass, an he's always hungry, why does he have fans? because everyone thinks he is the most powerfull of all --', "galactus at full power equals the eternity" wasn't the eternity destroyed by thanos once? 
 
and I've seen some people saying he could kill death, as if the death was going to be able to die or killing herself.
 
he's one of the most overrated villains in marvel.

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#47 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1917 posts) - - Show Bio
@silverr: It's not the omnipotent OAA, who is the God of Marvel, it's just the leader of the Celestials. And Thanos only beat Eternity before because he had the IG.
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#48 Posted by alcoholbob (1314 posts) - - Show Bio

Galactus is unlikely to beat the OAL. His power level fluctuates too much whereas Celestials are (allegedly) stable. If they are close in power OAL would likely pull off the win...Galactus has no stamina lol.

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#49 Posted by higher_evolutionary (2127 posts) - - Show Bio
@alcoholbob: what has he done he was afraid of thor lol
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#50 Posted by TheCerealKillz (10332 posts) - - Show Bio
@higher_evolutionary said:
@alcoholbob: what has he done he was afraid of thor lol
LOL. 
  
Too bad he knew that Thor couldn't do **** to him, and also TOAA was said to be out of it at the time, he was trapped so long in his ship.