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I'm not sure if this has been done before (I looked around a bit but couldn't find anything), so don't crucify me if it has.

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  • Kazekage Gaara
  • Prime Orochimaru
  • No Edo Tensei
  • Standard gear
  • Morals on, i.e. their personalities are unaltered
  • Fight takes place in Forest of Death
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Who would win and why?

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@echostarlord117: orochimaru in a great fight. He's too versatile and hard to putdown. Can summon manda and sit back honestly.

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Wasn't Orochimaru capable of taking on Jiraiya?

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#5  Edited By Shadowmaster91

My vote goes for Gaara with high difficulty.

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@noone301994: Yep, he actually took on both Jiraiya and Tsunade to a standstill back in the original Naruto anime IIRC. Granted, the fight was really Manda vs. Gamabunta with Tsunade splitting her attention between Orochimaru and Kabuto, but still.

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@echostarlord117: You are forgetting that was:

-Armless Orochimaru

-Poisoned Jiraiya

-Rusted Tsunade

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-Poisoned Jiraiya

Oh, damn. I completely forgot about that tbh

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@echostarlord117: No, I mean off-screen it was stated that Jiraiya fought Orochimaru in his youth and he couldn't beat him. It was like Naruto vs Sasuke style. Jiraiya was trying to get him to stay in the village.

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I just don't see how Orochimaru could win.

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By feat Gaara and By hype Orochimaru

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@noone301994: The problem here is the drive from both sides. Let's say that both sides are equally strong, who would win:

-Naruto/Jiraiya side, who doesn't want to harm him that much and only want to make Sasuke/Orochimaru to see reason. Or

-Sasuke/Orochimaru that want to escape and disregard the safety of his "friend".

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Oro can't get near him though..

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If this is a healthy Oro with both his arms, he takes this. Otherwise Gaara

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Orochimaru.

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Gaara crushes him at range.

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just one word reanimation jutsu and Orochimaru slaughter

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Gaara , he has his experience and his absurd defense , but Orochimaru would trouble Gaara .

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just one word reanimation jutsu and Orochimaru slaughter

Edo tensie was banned, that is the reanimation justu, reanimation is just the english translation of Edo Tensei.

And for my personal opinion. i feel it would be more of a tie between the two. War arc gaara is pretty OP but Prime orochimaru is pretty epic and by Hype he is one of the most powerful living ninja and proven to be atleast kage level or higher. While gaara was the youngest Kage at the time, he is by no means a weak one.

In Fact i would even put him slightly over tsunade if it was not for Her Genisis rebirth healing jutsu.

all and all i feel it would be pretty even, if gaara could manage to get him in once of his desert burial jitsu's he would win, but if orochimaru could poison/ get past his defenses he would take it.

i mean oro even took on a two/three tail naruto and managed to do pretty well, and with his vast knowledge of super advanced jutsu's would be hard to beat with gaara's primarily sand style attacks.

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@karsa_toblakai: if this is the case then Gaara slaughter. there is no way Orochimaru can hurt Gaara ,Orochimaru lack serious firepower

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@superproherohunter: The number of technique's Orochimaru knows is going to be at least on par with, (and likely beyond due to his research), Kakashi and Hiruzen who both know 1000+. Saying he has no serious firepower seems pretty naive.

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Gaara

I haven't seen anything from Orochimaru which makes him seem more impressive than Gaara.

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Gaara should win.

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@jt_gh: so snake techniques are serious firepower. Orochimaru was all bark no bite

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@superproherohunter: If that were his only tech then you'd have a point. I agree he was underdeveloped for what his reputation required but Sword of Kusangi alone could probably pierce the Sand Shield.

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@jt_gh: first thing that Sword lack serious feats plus with sand he can always maintain distance

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Gaara stomps. I don't see Orochimaru touching him at all

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@superproherohunter: That sword has plenty of feats. For one its indestructible and can hurt Enma in his adamantine staff form, for another it's highly versatile and can extend well beyond it's length to negate that distance.

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@jt_gh: what is Enma durability feat?

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@superproherohunter: Withstanding an unbreakable sword, smashing through First Hokage wood release as well as withstanding elemental attack barrage.

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@jt_gh: how does Withstanding an unbreakable sword mean it is sharp and powerful enough to pierce throw sand plus and what sword are you talking about third hokage magic stick (which was just a strong stick) and wood is wood ha ha ha ha that is not impressive at all

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@karsa_toblakai: if this is the case then Gaara slaughter. there is no way Orochimaru can hurt Gaara ,Orochimaru lack serious firepower

here is some of orochimaru fire power.

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More defensive, but able to deflect moves like the Biju-dama's.
More defensive, but able to deflect moves like the Biju-dama's.

Able to summon a wave of snakes similar to gaara's sand waves.
Able to summon a wave of snakes similar to gaara's sand waves.

Summoning massive snakes with huge destructive force and incredible speed.
Summoning massive snakes with huge destructive force and incredible speed.

His sword clearly extends extremely far, and was powerful enough to destroy rocks/trees and pin down an extremely enraged 4 tails naruto. 4 tails was the step after the form that nearly killed jaraiya and left a permanent scar on him.
His sword clearly extends extremely far, and was powerful enough to destroy rocks/trees and pin down an extremely enraged 4 tails naruto. 4 tails was the step after the form that nearly killed jaraiya and left a permanent scar on him.

While this is Sasuke using this move. 1. it is originally orochimaru's move, and 2, it is his chakra, as stated by both Itachi and Black zetsu.
While this is Sasuke using this move. 1. it is originally orochimaru's move, and 2, it is his chakra, as stated by both Itachi and Black zetsu.

here are a few scans i had on my comp. ill have more in a few mins of other varying justus's non-snake related i can find.

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@superproherohunter: You asked what Enma's durability feats were and I gave them to you (withstanding the unbreakable sword was Enma withstanding Kusangi). And Wood Release is shown to be strong enough to battle a Sussano armored Kyuubi so laugh all you want but it's pretty clear to me you're not actually interested in a discussion, just being intentionally dense.

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@jt_gh: how does Withstanding an unbreakable sword mean it is sharp and powerful enough to pierce throw sand plus and what sword are you talking about third hokage magic stick (which was just a strong stick) and wood is wood ha ha ha ha that is not impressive at all

and wood is wood? lmfao you are either a troll or have NEVER read the entire series. here are some Feats of this wood.

literally catches a Biju-Dama and slams it back at madara.
literally catches a Biju-Dama and slams it back at madara.

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Same wood style manhandling a full form Kyuubi.
Same wood style manhandling a full form Kyuubi.

. yep wood is just wood. smh haha.

standing toe to toe with madera's Perfect Sassuno, and if you are going to try and downplay that, you have OBVIOUSLY just been trolling this whole time.
standing toe to toe with madera's Perfect Sassuno, and if you are going to try and downplay that, you have OBVIOUSLY just been trolling this whole time.

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Gaara.

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@shadowmaster91: Ehhh idk about that logic because Naruto literally said he'd bring Sasuke back even if it meant breaking every bone in his body to do so. But you definitely have a point that beating someone to incapacitate instead of fighting to kill them is much different.

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@noone301994: Thanks. The attitude of the fighters is an important factor to consider.

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@karsa_toblakai: That was actually Orochimaru using that move. He took over Sasuke's body at that point.

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Orochimaru wins unless Gaara seals him. He is just too durable and versatile.

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Gaara.

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I think Orochimaru would lose against Tsunade & Jiraiya given their more recent feats. Gaara should win here lol

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@jashro44 said:

Gaara.

Agreed. He's just bury him to the point were Orochimaru could do nothing to escape.

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@maiamaku: Well, I mean Jiraiya has got sage mode.. and Tsunade was surprisingly decent during the war...

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#46  Edited By maiamaku

@linsanel_doctor: oh okay. I thought you were talking about brand new feats. Jiraiya's sage mode takes forever to activate though (compared to Hashirama, and to a lesser extent, Naruto) . And yeah, I was impressed with Tsunade.

The biggest issue I have with threads regarding Orochimaru is that we've never seen him going all out without some sort of handicap. He was toying with the third to torment him, lost his jutsu and was essentially dying the first time we saw the deadlock, and when he fought a rampaging Naruto, his body was expiring, he still didn't have his jutsu, and he was merely there to test Naruto's strength. When he regained his jutsu, he didn't engage in the war directly, he just revived the hokages and healed tsunade. By hype, he is among the most powerful/dangerous in the series, but we haven't seen a whole lot of techniques from him.

EDIT: accidentally hit post mid paragraph.

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@maiamaku: woops! True, true.. Shippuden didn't really spend much time on Orochimaru..

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I like garaa but futton for sand bullets. LITTERALLY ANYTHING ELSE FOR WHATEVER GARAA THROWS. But its not a stomp.

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