Full MCU Avengers vs DCEU Justice League and Justice Society

Current Scarlet Witch is the biggest threat if they can take her out before she reacts, then team DCEU wins since the rest of the Avengers are fodders (except Thor, Jane Thor, and Carol)

Avengers stomp more heavy hitters not fair for dceu tbh

> Superman + Black Adam

RIP Avengers.

Sooo...

1. Superman vs Carol + MOM Scarlet witch [MCU might win]

2. Batman vs Nat + Hawkeye [MCU win]

3. Black Adam vs IW thor + vision + Hulk [leaning towards DCEU here]

4. Cyborg vs Nano tech Iron Man + Rhody [MCU win]

5. Dr. Fate vs Dr Strange with timestone [MCU win thanks to timestone i think]

6. WW vs Worthy Jane Foster [DCEU win]

7. Hawkman vs Worthy Captain America + Falcon [DCEU win]

8. Aqua Man vs Black panther + iron suit spidey + winter soldier [close but going with DCEU cuz bucky is a non factor, spidey will be hella annoying though]

9. Atom smasher vs Giant man [DCEU win]

10. Cyclone vs wasp?? (Doesn't matter they are both fodder). [DCEU win]

11. Flash vs quick silver [DCEU win]

DCEU wins 7/11

But some rounds are close and can actually go either way like black adam vs thor & co and aquamna vs spidey and co.

As a group MCU might win thanks to

1. Better team

2. Scarlet witch (she can mass put team DCEU in illusion) we already saw that work on black Adam, and WW in canon.

MCU have the numbers advantage so they should win. You have to wade through lots of fodder on the MCU side though.

Wanda put up a hex field and the fight is over. None from the other team can resist reality warping so they get turned into clowns and what not.

Leaning MCU only Black Adam, Superman and maybe Doctor Fate have a chance against Thor, Jane, Worthy Cap, Vision, Iron Man, Captain Marvel and Hulk. And MoM Scarlet Witch is above everyone on the DCEU side.

Flash is somewhat relevant with SC feats but even then he doesn't have the damage output to take down any other heavy hitters from what I remember.

Wow

Think DCEU needs Shazam too.

That aside, if Adam fights with speed, they have a chance, because Wanda can be one shotted. MCU has some big hitters, but I think the DCEU bigs are a step above Marvel’s.

So the Avengers vs a circus show?

@uchihaghost: what atom smasher feat is better than giant man’s?

DCEU only if they take out SW first

People here need to be reminded that Strange as per OP has a timestone.

@ecoblitz: kneeing sabbac

> pasting black Adam

> lifting black Adams statue

I'd say atom smasher is overall better cuz he faced stronger opponents

Atom Smasher solos

Going with the JSA and JL here. Nobody on the Avengers can counter the speed of Flash, Supes or BA and Fate can counter anything Witch or Strange does, he's far more experienced.

@uchihaghost: anyone can knee sabbac… dude got tagged by everyone how is that a positive feat? Sabbac got stabbed by a random pipe line by HM.

Pasting BA?? He was undamaged wtf? And his punch wasn’t even city block level what are we doing here?

And Ant Man lifted the avengers mansion and all the thousands to millions of gallon of water.

No one in DCEU is ever beating Wanda.

@ecoblitz: Ant man lifted the avengers mansion?? I thought hulk did that?? When??

Yea he was undamaged, but grounding him was still a feat considering the shit he no sold neg diff.

I personally have it as BA > Zod > Thor

When it comes to durability, i feel like thor just took way too much damage against foes, as opposed to someone like Zod who fought supes, wrecked a city while doing so without bleeding.

@uchihaghost: he carried it after him I believe.

He was already on the ground… he was slowly flying up and atom smasher simply punched him to the ground and literally did 0 damage… that is not an impressive feat AT ALL.

Thor>Both imo. Only thing he was lacking was combat speed (not reaction speed) and he has that now.

Nobody in the DCEU bleeds except explicitly stabbed and there’s a giant gaping hole iirc. Feel free to correct me. Also how are we using thor taking damage as a lowball and not a feat for the people who damaged him seeing the things he’s ranked and survived? Nothing in BA gets remotely close to the sokovia blast yes thor took that blast and could still move but somehow that’s a negative for him?

Black Adam's AoE alone vapes like 95% of the Avengers. Thor and Carol will be the only ones standing and then they get stomped. DCEU teams takes the double-U, comfortably.

Thor shares his power with the team and this becomes a mismatch

@thebestofthebest: 95% of people there means only 1 person is standing…which can’t be factual as the likes of hawkman, Atom smasher and fate took the explosion AoE… those people have inferior durability feats than at least 20% of the mcu cast…

I find myself inclined to disagree with you there, lad. As far as durability goes 1) Hawkman may not be as strong as the Kanhdaqi but he's durable enough to tangle w/BA regardless whether or not the latter was holding back, ergo, HM's damage soak is insane. 2) Atom Smasher literally has no anti-feats in the durability area, unless you consider Adam one shotting him an anti feat, and thus surviving Adam's nuke is a legitimate durability feat. 3) Dr Fate had shields, hax and superhuman stats etc etc or the necessary means to contend with DCEU's powerhouses w/o dying after a hit or two, he wasn't a glass canon as opposed to Strange & Wanda.

Edit: I forgot to mention a weaker Doctor Fate was physically keeping up with Adam's rival. We have confirmation from the director (Link) that he potentially could have beaten Sabbac had he not been weakened due to using all of his abilities pulling different feats simultaneously - telepathically communicating with BA who was imprisoned in a secret military base in Russia under lake Baikal trying to wake him up, cloning himself and strengthening the magic shield around the throne room so that the JSA won't break in, all the while fighting Sabbac. Dr Fate is a notch below Black Adam, he is a certified high-tier.

It's a fight to the death?

Superman blitzes & statues the fodders.

Fate & Adam are the icing on the bloody cake.

The MCU team is just a bunch of one-shottable fodders with only one or two good challenges (Wanda & Thor. And the former is still a slow glass cannon, while the latter is just slow and gets pummeled by Supes & Adam)

if we consider that consistent for Wonder Woman then people have no right to cry about Spider-Man wank

Bruh Black Adam + Fate + Superman are enough to win them getting fodder to distract the chaff and heavy hitters is just icing on the cake.

You could make it the entire army from Endgame and Black Adam could clear most of the roster with a single Shazam bolt. After that he could mop up everyone still standing even if they were still 100% healthy. For this to be a fight that the Avengers could even come close to winning Adam, Superman, Wonder Woman and Fate can't be here and even then Flash is fast enough to take out most people here and Cyborg can use technopathy to gain some new teammates in the form of Iron Man, War Machine and Vision.

After all is said and done Wanda still solo.

Speed blitz.

@ecoblitz: lets see...

> aquaman got burnt by black mamba's beam

> supes broke zods neck

> supes beat the shit out of steppenwolf and made him bleed

> flash was shot and was hurt

> suicide members bled

I feel like thor is only superior to Zod in energy projection and AP with stormbreaker and not basr punches and kicks. And in a fight Zod will come out on top because of superior combat speed (fighting at supersonic speeds), superior durability (tanking hits from supes and wrecking half a city).

Black Adam is just planely superior to thor, cuz thor is too slow to even fight BA in 1 vs 1

There are 11 Avengers here that would make solid one on one matches against team Justice's roster.

8 more Avengers to run interference is just icing on the cake.

Avengers win.

Avengers

^^^.

Carol and Thor and SW take the big ones , Jane Thor,Worthy Cap, Vision battles the rest.

they're the ones needed tbh.

The rest of avengers like QS , Ironman etc becomes distractions or helps for victory.

Thor using magic to share his power makes this a mismatch tbh…

People still don't understand just how much speed advantage the DCEU side has. From the get go, SM, Flash and BA will be dealing with literal statues. SM and Flash have enough speed to compete on who will take down the most opponents and still have enough time a quipy banter while wiping out the MCU team. Now add in the likes of WW, Fate... who can be argued to have better speed feats than the MCU team.

Even with wank, the MCU side has at best explosion timers and lightning timers, two categories that are still statues to these three guys.

@macleen: hopefully BA isn’t part of those 3 guys no? Because we see bullets moving just like he was in the explosion scene and we have other feats of him needing max effort to catch a bullet.

Screw it, add the Shazam family to the DCEU side too.

OT: DCEU team wins

@nightgate: Numbers advantage is useless when some of the DCEU dudes have a massive speed advantage thats arguably MCU Quiksilver level or better + impressive strength

Mcu stomps waaay to many heavy hitters not fair for dceu

@modernww2fare: Same, DCEU team takes it.

@macleen:

What has the DCEU side done to suggest they are significantly faster?

Thor shares his power with the team and this becomes a mismatch

@muhdsyarif: quick silver level is faster than BA tbh.

The Flash kills most of them in a flash, Cyborg nukes the others.

Wanda could solo lol, given enough time she could straight erase everyone like she did Mr.Fantastic turning them to ribbons

Scarlet witch could solo 5 people at once.

Quicksilver is just an advantage for them.

Dr strange gg.

Thor, Captain marvel, Hulkbuster, Hulk bloodlusted too easy for the Avengers.