Fujitora and Akainu vs. Dante (BC)

These guys must be reading two piece (fanfic wank) not one piece, mftl and continental luffy.

OT: Dante stomps

@delein: Ok so, you know how 3D2Y is considered canon because it was written by Oda? Right so, the antagonist of said movie ate the more more fruit and basically can amp himself or other objects. Base Luffy (who is FTL) like I proved to you earlier, was keeping up with him until the user amped his speed by 100x. Luffy kept up with him in gear second. This means the gear second multiplier is 100x. From there, it’s really easy to calc his speed that high (dodging dozens of light speed attacks from seperate angles), etc. btw discord is still an option.

@pepsichipbag: As for Chinjao splitting the ice continent, well let’s think about this for a second. We know that cannonballs, flamethrowers, and pickaxes were al completely ineffective against the ice continent. As in, there was 0 scratches on it. If you used a cannon ball on a steel door cannonball, it likely wouldn’t break, but it still could possibly do so or dent horribly out of shape. This means that the steel continent was much, much, MUCH denser than steel. If you’ve taken basic chemistry or physics, I don’t think I need to bring up the density of steel in comparison to land. However, if I do the gap between them is gigantic. for context, destroying a mass of steel that’s continent sized would require the joule output of like, destroying a dozen normal continents. They aren’t comparable at all. Now, judging by the mass Chinjao did actually split, ironically continent level is a lowball for this feat considering the density which I’ve just explained for you. So yes, Luffy is actually well above continent.

And no, I did not steal this from the guy on the zoro and Luffy vs asta and yuno thread, I am that guy. I just didn’t wanna type this again.

@delein: read above

@sinbad_hakuryuu: Read above

Dnc, Dante wins

for future references ,before wasting your time writing long posts check your infos. OP movies ain't canon my dude. the fact that it takes place during the timeskip doesnt mean that it is canon, it was stated by oda that movies arent canon, the characters arent mentioned in the manga and most important thing, op movies arent written by oda, for istance 3d2y wasnt written by him.

@delein: oh but it was.

https://ibb.co/ZT4jx1m

It was written by the author and is from the same franchise, and there’s nothing from Oda saying it’s non canon. It’s illogical to assume it’s non canon. Provide evidence, otherwise appeal to ignorance.

ignorance my ass pal , it wasnt written by oda.

Interview with 3D2Y Assistant Producer Teramoto - The One Piece Podcast

read the interview

@bobwillsonjr: he accepted the idea from the assistants and let them produce the movie on their own, he made the villain's design. As in any other of OP movies, thats it.

LMAAAO. OT: Dante stomps.

@delein: Your article only states they had the idea. I didn’t think I’d have to explain this, but writing and pitching an idea are very different concepts. I felt very condescending having to explain that but whatever

I'm not addressing that chinjao feat...

Ot: Dante shitstomps LMAO at continental Luffy.

@pepsichipbag: Then you lose via burden of rejoinder lol. Thank you for the concession.

pal think whatever you want, you have the interview right there. If you want op characters to be mftl+ on a whim , np . your credibility can only last for so long.

@delein: Yeah, but you didn’t prove that with your article. Plus if he accepted the idea it’s as good as him writing it. It’s not like he said he didn’t like the idea and wanted it disassociated from his franchise lmao.

@delein: yeah but your evidence isn’t debunking what I said. lol

previously you used this link below as evidence from op wiki:

https://ibb.co/ZT4jx1m

gonna do the same:

Canon | One Piece Wiki | Fandom

here you go.

@delein: First off, it literally says it’s up to fan interpretation. Secondly, I don’t even see anything there that disproves my point. And I used a fact from the wiki as my evidence (the writer of the movie), I didn’t use someone’s take on who wrote it, which is what you did in terms of canon. Also... the wiki literally states Oda had influence on it, and YOUR evidence says if Oda has influence on it it can be considered canon

Stop this arguing, Dante still wins

@astalichita: not my fault the verse you like to suck off is fodder

@bobwillsonjr: Cry about it

seriously? resorting to this kind of behaviour....?

@delein: I’m not “resorting” to anything. The person put an unsubstantiated claim, so I put an equally silly statement. Ok sure, black clover is a great anime that’s fine, but stop wanking it, and stop your blatant downplay of one piece. You’ve yet to debunk anything I’ve said.

it really isnt tho, quite mediocre and derivative from others battle shonen manga , but thats not the point

@delein: fine whatever idrc about it being good or not, not my premise

dante stomps. fujitora is useless and akainu lava does nothing against dante gravity

@gatezero: scroll up, I’ve formulated an argument against everything presented against me thus far

@bobwillsonjr: i have seen what you worte and disagreed with nearly everything you said

@gatezero: Well, then I’d like you to respond to them rather than just stating that you disagree.

@bobwillsonjr: first you used chinjao continent spliting feat which is impossible to actually use in a debate since continents have many different sizes and we never see the actual size of the continent so using that as evidence is impossible.

second you say 3D2Y is canon because it is written by oda which is false. canon is the original source material which 3d2y is never once refrenced in. the events are never brought up and neither are the characters. which means you cant use any feat from this to support you evidence.

and finally you cant demand a reply from me when you came to me stating you you have arguements against everything presented. you asked me to view your responses and i gave you my opinion next time dot go demand an response from a person you asked to see your arguements

@gatezero:

first you used chinjao continent spliting feat which is impossible to actually use in a debate since continents have many different sizes and we never see the actual size of the continent so using that as evidence is impossible.

This response suggests you just saw the word “Chinjao” and stopped reading. I never said it had anything to do with the ice continents size, just it’s density. Go back, read it carefully, and come back.

second you say 3D2Y is canon because it is written by oda which is false. canon is the original source material which 3d2y is never once refrenced in. the events are never brought up and neither are the characters. which means you cant use any feat from this to support you evidence.

No? It’s from the franchise and Oda wrote it. The only time the manga can disprove something is if it directly contradicts it. Oda wrote it and had it be apart of his franchise, so it’s considered canon. Extremely flawed logic that I refuted several times.

and finally you cant demand a reply from me when you came to me stating you you have arguements against everything presented. you asked me to view your responses and i gave you my opinion next time dot go demand an response from a person you asked to see your arguements

I didn’t demand a reply from you, I said “I’d like you to respond to them”. You had the option not to, I wasn’t forcing you to do it.

Dante

@whitemoon: read above

Tell me how they get past Dante's body magic

Answer better not be where his magic runs out(•_•)

@astalichita: Can you show me where hes regened from continental attacks?

@bobwillsonjr: DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF HIS MAGIC?!

It doesn't matter how powerful the attack, he'll always regenerate unless it's Anti Magic or Slash Magic

@bobwillsonjr: uh no you still tried to used the feat as evidence and you missed the point entirely. 1 you cant accuratley get the density from what we see and depending on the size of the continent you can get different results. you state because it has to be much denser than actual steel when we have literally almost no info about this continent. and from what we do get getting an accurate is impossible

second once again completely wrong. canon is the original source material which 3d2y is not. oda writing it and being apart of the op franchise is irrelevant. you did not refute anything and your logic is flawed. since it is never not even once brought up in the source material it is not canon.

and no you came to me after i gave my opinion on the battle stating you made an argument against you. you then said well i would like a response rather than me just stating i disagree. which is passive aggressive for one and two you are asking me to respond after i gave a simple opinion and then you claimed you argued everything presented towards you. and i responded with i read what you wrote and disagreed with nearly everything you have no reason to actually ask me for a proper response. i never tried to counter you argument until my second response to you. so until now there was simply no reason

@astalichita: Ah, a classic no limits fallacy that doesnt even warrant a reply

uh no you still tried to used the feat as evidence and you missed the point entirely. 1 you cant accuratley get the density from what we see and depending on the size of the continent you can get different results. you state because it has to be much denser than actual steel when we have literally almost no info about this continent. and from what we do get getting an accurate is impossible

No you can’t. If you make a response without reading my argument again, I’m just calling burden of rejoinder. I won’t say this again. Canon balls, pick axes, flamethrower etc were all ineffective. This means the continent was at the very LEAST as dense as steel (it’s realistically wayyyyyyyyy denser). Do you understand that? And do you understand that, based on how much he split, it’s a continental lowballed feat? I won’t say it again. Give a relevant response or burden of rejoinder.

second once again completely wrong. canon is the original source material which 3d2y is not. oda writing it and being apart of the op franchise is irrelevant. you did not refute anything and your logic is flawed. since it is never not even once brought up in the source material it is not canon.

But that’s not what canon is???? If Oda denoted it as a part of his franchise and nothing directly contradicts it, then it’s canon. Lol.

and no you came to me after i gave my opinion on the battle stating you made an argument against you. you then said well i would like a response rather than me just stating i disagree. which is passive aggressive for one and two you are asking me to respond after i gave a simple opinion and then you claimed you argued everything presented towards you. and i responded with i read what you wrote and disagreed with nearly everything you have no reason to actually ask me for a proper response. i never tried to counter you argument until my second response to you. so until now there was simply no reason

Not reading all this for something that doesn’t have relevance to my argument sorry

"Fallacy"

Have you been watching White clover?

@astalichita: Yeah, it’s falsely believing an ability possesses no limits just because it has shown it can regen from anything shown thus far. This is a universe that doesnt have continental characters, so burden of evidence is on you to prove it.

Worth noting that akainu’s magma is hot enough to burn flames btw

@bobwillsonjr:

it can regen from anything shown thus far

What makes you really think Akainu's/Fujitora's powers can bypass Dante?

Just tell me, is it because it's really hot?

@astalichita: No, because it’s multiple magnitudes above ANYTHING he’s ever regened from

@bobwillsonjr:

Look it doesn't matter how great the attack, no matter how hard they try, it will never work

Just like how Enel's attack are far greater than skypiea Luffy but Luffy was still immune to him, why? BECAUSE IT WAS LITERAL LIGHTNING

@astalichita: AGAIN, a no limits fallacy. Also, sufficient lighting can kill Luffy. It’s just that he can tank a lot of it. You think Luffy can survive a lightning bolt that could destroy the entire universe? Personally, I think such a notion is silly.

Quite frankly, akainu alone has the AP to vaporize him. Prove he can regen from attacks of the admirals caliber and I’ll believe you.

@bobwillsonjr:

akainu alone has the AP to vaporize him.

The attack literally destroyed everything inside his body, even the atoms but guess what. He still regenerated

@astalichita: You understand that akainu would do this but to his entire body, right? Prove he can tank that.