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#51 Posted by Amonfire1776 (3125 posts) - - Show Bio
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#52 Edited by Bossmountain (1105 posts) - - Show Bio

@yellaninjaa: @limitlesssigil: @mrviking: @hollowbutterfly: first of all everyone in frieza force is probably massively faster than anyone on bleach team. second off they are the characters on frieza's forces that can literally stop time and steal bodies and cause paralysis by telekinesis. So no bleach team Is not the only one haxs here.3rd an average freezer soldier with a blaster would be fast enough to Blitz in one shot most of them. With average pl 2000 they stronger than Raditz a dude can casually Dodge sub relativistic attacks and tank Moon shattering explosions without taking any damage.

4.) It's not like anyone on bleach team aside from Aizen or Yhwach could survive if Frieza just decides to nuke the place and together they lack the attack potency to put freeza down even in his first form .

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#53 Posted by MrViking (900 posts) - - Show Bio

@bossmountain: Ywach one shot this frieza boi , and literaly everyone who dont have SK lv reatsu or another energy , or higher . Also characters with SK lv reatsu can earse someone who have less reatsu ( or another energy , if they equalized ) , until frieza cover 3 dimension with his energy , and can hold the balance of the realms toghether with it , he get earsed (and thats earse , not soul crush , they are two diferent thing) . Also any speed feat for frieza force ?

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#54 Posted by Bossmountain (1105 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrviking:

@mrviking said:

@bossmountain: Ywach one shot this frieza boi ,

ha! since when is Yhwach star busting level? he must be if he can apparently one shot large planet busting Beings..

and literally everyone who dont have SK lv reatsu or another energy ,or higher .

all the dudes Yhwach was able to one shot are complete fodder compared to Frieza or the ginyu force for that matter. he couldn't one shot Ichigo since he was too powerful.. NFL much?

Also characters with SK lv reatsu can earse someone who have less reatsu ( or another energy , if they equalized ) , until frieza cover 3 dimension with his energy , and can hold the balance of the realms toghether with it , he get earsed (and thats earse , not soul crush , they are two diferent thing) .

that's ridiculous Ichigo can't cover and balance 3 dimension with his energy. and even if he could there is literally no way of quantifying that.

Also any speed feat for frieza force ?

Raditz is able to dodge Piccolo's Special beam cannon

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Even Piccolo's casual ki attacks are shown reaching sub-relativistic speeds

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Same for Roshi's Kamehameha.

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Raditz also tank Goku's Kamehameha which at this point was stated to be strong enough to shatter moons.

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As well as Piccolo ki blast which is shown shattering the moon later. the reason I'm using Raditz is because in spite all these crazy feats he is weaker than the average Frieza solider and comparable in strength to a Saibaman . Since his Pl 1,500 average Frieza 2,000. Frieza literally has thousands of Dudes with this level of power on his Teams. what speed feats does team bleach has?

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#55 Posted by Chad_Duby (5681 posts) - - Show Bio

If Frieza’s Army doesn’t have a Frieza himself in it then it might lose.

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#56 Posted by Chad_Duby (5681 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrviking: Well, after a Frieza got his hidden potential unlocked he was able to contend with Super Base Goku in his Final Form and Super Base Goku is as powerful as Super saiyan God who shook three dimensions(macrocosm) and even something outside it like the Kaioshin dimension in the fight against Beerus with their kis by clashing thateir hands, so logically Final Form Freiza should be able to replicate half of that.

Also Frieza is accessed to Golden Frieza which was a transformation that matched and arguably surpassed Super Saiyan Blue.

Frieza also contained a Hakai in the form of Golden Freiza.

Logically Freiza would be multiversal right now so I don’t see why he will have any problem with the like of Yuha even if he were that powerful.

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#57 Posted by HollowButterfly (282 posts) - - Show Bio

@yellaninjaa: @limitlesssigil: @mrviking: @hollowbutterfly: first of all everyone in frieza force is probably massively faster than anyone on bleach team. second off they are the characters on frieza's forces that can literally stop time and steal bodies and cause paralysis by telekinesis. So no bleach team Is not the only one haxs here.3rd an average freezer soldier with a blaster would be fast enough to Blitz in one shot most of them. With average pl 2000 they stronger than Raditz a dude can casually Dodge sub relativistic attacks and tank Moon shattering explosions without taking any damage.

4.) It's not like anyone on bleach team aside from Aizen or Yhwach could survive if Frieza just decides to nuke the place and together they lack the attack potency to put freeza down even in his first form .

I'm not quite sure and I could be wrong but if the character version isn't specified it automatically goes to current right? Which means current aizen? Which means aizen looks at frieza and KS GG. So that means speed doesn't matter now does it?

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#58 Posted by Bossmountain (1105 posts) - - Show Bio

@hollowbutterfly:

@bossmountain said:

@yellaninjaa: @limitlesssigil: @mrviking: @hollowbutterfly: first of all everyone in frieza force is probably massively faster than anyone on bleach team. second off they are the characters on frieza's forces that can literally stop time and steal bodies and cause paralysis by telekinesis. So no bleach team Is not the only one haxs here.3rd an average freezer soldier with a blaster would be fast enough to Blitz in one shot most of them. With average pl 2000 they stronger than Raditz a dude can casually Dodge sub relativistic attacks and tank Moon shattering explosions without taking any damage.

4.) It's not like anyone on bleach team aside from Aizen or Yhwach could survive if Frieza just decides to nuke the place and together they lack the attack potency to put freeza down even in his first form .

I'm not quite sure and I could be wrong but if the character version isn't specified it automatically goes to current right? Which means current aizen? Which means aizen looks at frieza and KS GG. So that means speed doesn't matter now does it?

Hardly. iirc, the last time Current Aizen use KS it only cause the opponent to mistake him for Ichigo resulting in Aizen getting his arm cut and impaled before being bisected...

and pretty much everyone team bleach is fodder with the except of Azien and Ywhach and that's only due to they're immortality. and it's unrealistic to expect them to hold their own against an literally army of Soldier that are equal too if not greater than them in terms of speed, durability and Destructive capacity. Frieza probably wouldn't need to make an appearance tbh.

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#59 Posted by HollowButterfly (282 posts) - - Show Bio

@hollowbutterfly:

@hollowbutterfly said:
@bossmountain said:

@yellaninjaa: @limitlesssigil: @mrviking: @hollowbutterfly: first of all everyone in frieza force is probably massively faster than anyone on bleach team. second off they are the characters on frieza's forces that can literally stop time and steal bodies and cause paralysis by telekinesis. So no bleach team Is not the only one haxs here.3rd an average freezer soldier with a blaster would be fast enough to Blitz in one shot most of them. With average pl 2000 they stronger than Raditz a dude can casually Dodge sub relativistic attacks and tank Moon shattering explosions without taking any damage.

4.) It's not like anyone on bleach team aside from Aizen or Yhwach could survive if Frieza just decides to nuke the place and together they lack the attack potency to put freeza down even in his first form .

I'm not quite sure and I could be wrong but if the character version isn't specified it automatically goes to current right? Which means current aizen? Which means aizen looks at frieza and KS GG. So that means speed doesn't matter now does it?

Hardly. iirc, the last time Current Aizen use KS it only cause the opponent to mistake him for Ichigo resulting in Aizen getting his arm cut and impaled before being bisected...

and pretty much everyone team bleach is fodder with the except of Azien and Ywhach and that's only due to they're immortality. and it's unrealistic to expect them to hold their own against an literally army of Soldier that are equal too if not greater than them in terms of speed, durability and Destructive capacity. Frieza probably wouldn't need to make an appearance tbh.

Current aizen looks at you and he automatically puts you under KS. Yhwach is only broken if he's morals off bloodlusted. In character he doesn't abuse almighty to it's limits. CURRENT Aizen literally looks at all of them and they're immediately under KS since he fused with his zanpakto

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#60 Posted by Bossmountain (1105 posts) - - Show Bio

@hollowbutterfly: "Current aizen looks at you and he automatically puts you under KS"

I know and I said the last time current Azien used KS all it did was cause his opponent to confuse him with Ichigo.

"CURRENT Aizen literally looks at all of them and they're immediately under KS since he fused with his zanpakto"

If that's the case then when someone just need to touch him to make themselves immune to it. Also it really wasn't an automatic GG when he tried to use it against Yhwach.

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#61 Posted by MrViking (900 posts) - - Show Bio

@bossmountain: Ywach can destroy 3 dimension with his reatsu , and if you look at the dimensions , they contain stars , so thats big planet to you ..... Also dodging a an atack in point blsk range , isnt that big feat.

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#62 Posted by Chad_Duby (5681 posts) - - Show Bio

Freiza resisted Hakai you think he would be affected by any of these stuffs?

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#63 Posted by Bleachfans (207 posts) - - Show Bio

Zabon solo the verse

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#64 Posted by HollowButterfly (282 posts) - - Show Bio

@bossmountain: KS does whatever he wants it to. It literally has not changed so that's a moot point. And it's really not that simple as "just touch him" imagine thinking it's that simple especially when all those other people are still on his team too lmfao.

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#65 Edited by Bossmountain (1105 posts) - - Show Bio

@hollowbutterfly: "KS does whatever he wants it to. It literally has not changed so that's a moot point."

How's the moot point? you're saying that KS is a instant win even though the last time current Aizen used it he got completely owned. By a dude who wasn't even able to resist it.

@mrviking: "Ywach can destroy 3 dimension with his reatsu , and if you look at the dimensions , they contain stars , so thats big planet to you"

Again Dimension collapsing is something that is totally unquantifiable. Especially since the amount of power to do so varies wildly in fiction I mean even the Hulk has collapsed dimensions.

..... Also dodging a an atack in point blsk range , isnt that big feat."

it is when Piccolo's casual ki attacks have been Cal at over 1/3 the speed of light. What speed feeds does team bleach have?

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#66 Posted by JOVIOLMA (6604 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#67 Posted by BrownZeus (977 posts) - - Show Bio

I can actually see Bleach team win this under certain scenarios. DBZ team has just greater stats but the more I think of it's a lot of hax to deal with.

I am surprized nobody has tried to argue for Yuha absorbing the other Quincies and make stuff up like The Allmigthy + X Axis combo.

The Bleach team has been given the conditions to create a Quincy composite which is the epitome of broken. Where are the Bleach people when you need them?

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#68 Posted by BrainDrain (332 posts) - - Show Bio

Ginyu or better yet Vegeta effortlessly solo.

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#69 Posted by Wot_m8 (387 posts) - - Show Bio

Frieza solos and one shots everyone. Yhwach dies and resurrects on repeat for eternity.