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#1 Posted by JOVIOLMA (6144 posts) - - Show Bio
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Rules

  • Random encounter-No knowledge
  • All Frieza's Soldiers from DBZ(Raditz Arc to Frieza Arc only-no DBS soldiers included)
  • Vegeta is the only one allowed to transform into Oozaru
  • Everyone is in character but are determined to win
  • Ki blasts are allowed but with focused AoE
  • Supernova is also allowed but with a Mountain sized AoE explosion to make this more fair
  • Ki blast spam is restrict
  • Reiatsu=/=Ki
  • BFR is restricted
  • Frieza and Yhwach are also included, but, Frieza is limited to his first form only, Yhwach is at EoS
  • Everyone starts in base but are allowed to transform if needed
  • Wins by Death, K.O. or Incapacitation

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#2 Edited by greenroost (1381 posts) - - Show Bio

comes down to freiza first form vs aizen

aizen stomps freiza in at least chrysalis form

gotei 13 > dragonball in this case

probably one of the few cases regarding the two universes

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#3 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3940 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't want to be that guy... But Shinji solo's.

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#4 Posted by JOVIOLMA (6144 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#5 Posted by batmansolosall (278 posts) - - Show Bio

Frieza solos...

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#6 Posted by Paytience (4911 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenroost: lol...TH are you smoking? First form Frieza planet busts effortlessly. This is a stomp...

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#7 Edited by LimitlessSigil (3940 posts) - - Show Bio

@paytience said:

@greenroost: lol...TH are you smoking? First form Frieza planet busts effortlessly. This is a stomp...

Did you read the rules? And Frieza isn't planet busting when that would kill all of his army

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#8 Edited by JOVIOLMA (6144 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: Frieza is not the kind of guy that cares about his own army though.

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#9 Edited by LimitlessSigil (3940 posts) - - Show Bio

@joviolma said:

@limitlesssigil: Frieza is not the kind of guy that would care about his own army though.

I find it hard to believe that Frieza would erase his entire army against people physically wise, massively inferior. And if you really want to use that as an argument, every single person on the Bleach team can dimension hop.

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#10 Posted by JOVIOLMA (6144 posts) - - Show Bio
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#11 Posted by Paytience (4911 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: He did kill his entire army against a team that he could of solod easily, in Ressurection of F. He would just flat out kill them.

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#12 Edited by LimitlessSigil (3940 posts) - - Show Bio

@paytience: Edit: Just re-watched the scene, to be fair, he did that after they all lost. Even so, the Bleach team can hop dimensions.

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#13 Posted by Azureus (2591 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly the Bleach Team can take this under the given conditions.

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#14 Edited by Paytience (4911 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: Hop dimensions? Not without a transport portal they can't. It's not as if they just have instant travel between the living world and the seritei.

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#15 Posted by Amonfire1776 (3018 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: He literally planet busts all the time in spite of his army being there...he could care less...regardless Frieza uses a different KI attack to planet bust or has Vegeta do it for him...

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#16 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3940 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: Hop dimensions? Not without a transport portal they can't. It's not as if they just have instant travel between the living world and the seritei.

Frieza isn't instantly busting the planet... Restricted to form one, it took him 5 "namek" minutes to bust Namek. Oh and his Supernova is restricted to Mountain level.

Lastly, it literally takes seconds for anyone on the Bleach side to open a portal to another dimension.

Here's Renji casually opening a passage to the Soul society at the start of the series
Here's Renji casually opening a passage to the Soul society at the start of the series

Here's Jugram opening a passage
Here's Jugram opening a passage

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Here's Uryu/Yhwach/Jugram leaving through a portal

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#17 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3940 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: He literally planet busts all the time in spite of his army being there...he could care less...regardless Frieza uses a different KI attack to planet bust or has Vegeta do it for him...

That's not happening instantly.

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#18 Edited by greenroost (1381 posts) - - Show Bio

@paytience said:

@greenroost: lol...TH are you smoking? First form Frieza planet busts effortlessly. This is a stomp...

Did you read the rules? And Frieza isn't planet busting when that would kill all of his army

that

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#19 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3940 posts) - - Show Bio

@amonfire1776 said:

@limitlesssigil: He literally planet busts all the time in spite of his army being there...he could care less...regardless Frieza uses a different KI attack to planet bust or has Vegeta do it for him...

Oh and Vegeta isn't going to suicide himself by blowing up the planet just because Frieza says so.

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#20 Posted by AlexTheBoss (17479 posts) - - Show Bio

Almost everyone one the Bleach team instantly dies. However there are a few characters who can be trouble. Yhwach, since he can revive himself and attack his enemies weak points while they are off guard in the future, Lille if he can go intangible in time plus his attack seemingly bypasses durability, Askin if he becomes immune to ki and how he can kill people through poisoning them, Gerard with the miracle though I don't think he will actually be able to kill any of the stronger characters, and Aizen with his immortality and illusions.

If Aizen can trick Frieza into killing his own allies, and then trick him into thinking his enemies are his allies, Lille has a free headhsot or Askin can just poison Frieza while he is confused. So if the Frieza army doesn't quickly vaporize Aizen into nothingness it could be gg, and if Yhwach has the ability to revive allies with the almighty it could be gg.

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#21 Edited by Paytience (4911 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: @greenroost: Frieza has no problem planet busting with his army there. That's been shown. The rule ops are basically bunk...they made reiatsu and ki the same, meaning DBZ characters could literally soul crush them. You're putting the Soul Reapers against guys who are in an entirely different tier of energy use. The best destructive feat in Bleach is not planet busting...in fact Kenpachi's meteor bust is considered exceptional...Meaning that if ki and reaitsu now mirror each other exactly, the Bleach characters are barely going to be able to walk.

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#22 Posted by JOVIOLMA (6144 posts) - - Show Bio

@paytience: Reiatsu =/= Ki

Ki and Reiatsu are not equal here.

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#23 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (3220 posts) - - Show Bio

Bleach team can actually win this imo. Shinji+Lille+Aizen+Yhwach and many others make a combo of hax that I don't think the DBZ team can overcome with ki blasts nerfed. Team Bleach for a decent majority.

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#24 Posted by Paytience (4911 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by Gaoron (8843 posts) - - Show Bio

Literally don't see a scenerio where Frieza doesn't nuke the area one shotting all of Bleach team. At the start of the fight he just watches laughing at the back but the moment his army starts losing he nukes everything gg. Also if I'm seeing correctly you putted 1000 of soldiers each being comparable to Raditz, that alone woukd give Bleach hell of a time leave alone Ginyu Force, Great Ape Vegeta or Frieza himself.

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#26 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3940 posts) - - Show Bio

@paytience said:

@limitlesssigil: @greenroost: Frieza has no problem planet busting with his army there.

Again, he's free to do this but it only hurts him, the Bleach side will just dimension hop whilst Frieza kills everyone on his team, the Bleach team then proceeds to stomp Frieza who's now alone.

That's been shown. The rule ops are basically bunk...they made reiatsu and ki the same, meaning DBZ characters could literally soul crush them

Very good reading abilities you have there.

You're putting the Soul Reapers against guys who are in an entirely different tier of energy use

You're putting Frieza and his men who don't even come close in terms of hax against the most haxed opponents in the HST

The best destructive feat in Bleach is not planet busting

Big whoop, imagine thinking DC is all that matters in a fight rofl

...in fact Kenpachi's meteor bust is considered exceptional...Meaning that if ki and reaitsu now mirror each other exactly

Again, very nice reading abilities you have, since Energies aren't equal.

the Bleach characters are barely going to be able to walk.

This totally makes sense

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Why are you so mad that the Bleach team wins here?

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#27 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3940 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gNwUCsE2-MU

You're aware that he did that with his Supernova right? The technique that the OP made Mountain level?

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#28 Posted by Amonfire1776 (3018 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: Yeah because he can't just launch a Ki attack and board a space ship...

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#29 Posted by Arthur_Morgan (218 posts) - - Show Bio

since when does it take a planet buster to beat bleach?

also ppl literaly ignore that ki is anti hax if the diffrence in power is enough.

frieza can blink and kill all of them thats the diffrence in power.

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#30 Posted by cKarma (129 posts) - - Show Bio

Freeza death beams everyone lol

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#31 Posted by Wanderez (1740 posts) - - Show Bio

^Ki negates hax

So, now Xavier cant mind wash Frieza, because he is too strong?

Gotcha! Dont expect to be taken seriously ever again.

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#32 Posted by panda_emperorix (3695 posts) - - Show Bio

What's stopping Ginyu from body swapping with Yhwach

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#33 Posted by Turr (1149 posts) - - Show Bio

Bleach team has too many heavy hitters. EOS Yhwach, Aizen, Ichigo, Yamamoto, Ichibe and a few others are easily on par with First Form Frieza if not above it and I feel like First Form Frieza could casually one shot his own army for the most part. Also Bleach team has SO much hax... their advantage in sheer versatility is enormous. Some of their abilities like Ichibe's ability to control color "black" or Yhwach's ability to manipulate probability are just broken.

In short, Bleach team outmuscles them and outhax's them.

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#34 Posted by greenroost (1381 posts) - - Show Bio

@paytience said:

@limitlesssigil: @greenroost: Frieza has no problem planet busting with his army there.

Again, he's free to do this but it only hurts him, the Bleach side will just dimension hop whilst Frieza kills everyone on his team, the Bleach team then proceeds to stomp Frieza who's now alone.

That's been shown. The rule ops are basically bunk...they made reiatsu and ki the same, meaning DBZ characters could literally soul crush them

Very good reading abilities you have there.

You're putting the Soul Reapers against guys who are in an entirely different tier of energy use

You're putting Frieza and his men who don't even come close in terms of hax against the most haxed opponents in the HST

The best destructive feat in Bleach is not planet busting

Big whoop, imagine thinking DC is all that matters in a fight rofl

...in fact Kenpachi's meteor bust is considered exceptional...Meaning that if ki and reaitsu now mirror each other exactly

Again, very nice reading abilities you have, since Energies aren't equal.

the Bleach characters are barely going to be able to walk.

This totally makes sense

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Why are you so mad that the Bleach team wins here?

...i wasn't mad.. i don't know why you copied another viner's text that i disagreed with and put it under my username, and i thought the bleach team would win

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#35 Posted by U_WOT_M8 (1401 posts) - - Show Bio

A casual blast probably kills 98% of the entire bleach team except though with silly abilities, Yhwach dies plain and simple, coming back from getting cut in half isn't the same as being vaporized completely. Lille intangible body is pathetic, nothing compared to MM so 1 blast and he is dead. Gerard would get vaporized as well so no miracle.

A bloodlusted Saiyan saga Vegeta who doesn't screw around can easily take this

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#36 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3940 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: Yeah because he can't just launch a Ki attack and board a space ship...

Did op state they have a spaceship? And that's totally an in character thing to occur... Vegeta's totally done this before. (Taste my sarcasm)

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#37 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3940 posts) - - Show Bio

@greenroost: Nothing I replied with was meant for you, it was meant for paytience

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#38 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (4602 posts) - - Show Bio

Bleach team wins and it isn’t a close fight at all.

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#39 Posted by greenroost (1381 posts) - - Show Bio
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#40 Edited by YellaNinjaa (8 posts) - - Show Bio

Too many broken Hax members on Bleach team but Z team far outclasses in AP/ DC but I think some of Bleach team can ignore durability. Bleach battles are kind of a drag cus of Hax. Almost like Midora and Ichiryu lol but they have huge A/P D/C even without Hax to back it up.

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#41 Posted by Amonfire1776 (3018 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: He was about to destroy the earth in DBZ against Goku...so yeah I would be suprised if they didn't have any ships regardless...

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#42 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3940 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: He was about to destroy the earth in DBZ against Goku...so yeah I would be suprised if they didn't have any ships regardless...

He was about to destroy the planet at the end of their fight... And again, there's nothing to suggest he would have been able to destroy it instantly.

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#43 Posted by Amonfire1776 (3018 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: Even taking that into account Frieza can always slow planet bust like he did on Namek...he doesn't need the Supernova to do so.

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#44 Edited by LimitlessSigil (3940 posts) - - Show Bio

@amonfire1776 said:

@limitlesssigil: Even taking that into account Frieza can always slow planet bust like he did on Namek...he doesn't need the Supernova to do so.

Which again, gives the Bleach side ample time to dimension hop whilst Frieza eradicates his entire team bar himself.

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#45 Posted by Amonfire1776 (3018 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: Or you know...they just fly away and watch the planet explode from afar..bfring the Blaech team for good

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#46 Edited by LimitlessSigil (3940 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: Or you know...they just fly away and watch the planet explode from afar..bfring the Blaech team for good

If Freiza blows the planet then he kills everyone on his team except himself. Does the Bleach side dimension hopping themselves count as loss by BFR? I mean, they'll have the huge number majority since only Frieza would be left.

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#47 Posted by HollowButterfly (282 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: Or you know...they just fly away and watch the planet explode from afar..bfring the Blaech team for good

What is their answer for KS? Almighty is useless in this scenario cause Yhwank is in character. But Aizen in character? Everyone except Ichigo, and I sure don't think the orange headed part-quincy human with Shinigami and hollow powers is apart of Frieza's army so...?

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#48 Posted by Amonfire1776 (3018 posts) - - Show Bio
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#50 Posted by MrViking (809 posts) - - Show Bio

Ywach can solo the dbz . Any one with SK lv reatsu woud just earse the ones who have lower lv energy , SK lv reatsu = Can cover 3 dimension withit . I never saw any form of frieza can do something like covering 3 dimension withhis energy ....