Frieza (namek saga) vs Ata

First round : first form Frieza vs ata

second round: third form

third round : final form Frieza

if Frieza stomps then saiyan saga vegeta vs ata

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Ata all rounds. Saiyan saga vegeta? hugeee mismatch lol

Ata is this strong?

it might seem like wank at first - but he really is.

latest chapter confirmed he is a multi planet buster. he also has hax called silent slash that negates regen and delays time taken to cut things AND allowed him to destroy the moon casually.

the only problem here would be frieza’s supernova, but ata can dodge the impact before it hits him tbh. frieza is also outclassed physically.

Well frieza's supernova can be calculated to be star level, so i dont think multi planet level is enough to win here(especially since he's fodderizing multi planet busters).

who are the multi planet busters exactly? lol.

@mattyboi: Thing with Ata, his clone is casually moon level in physicals and cutting prowess, MFTL as well. Being able to negate regen, capabale of regen himself, Time hax etc.

Also, he was just confirmed to be a Multi-planet buster/possible star... waiting for official translation to confirm. They even showed a planet exploding in the back of the flashback.

And Frieza has shown poor cutting durability. This man chopped the moon in half with one swing of his regular blade. Not even his soul blade.

His cutting range is the size of the moon. One silent slash and Frieza wouldn't even know what happened since there is no damage until the preset time Ata has chosen.

Frieza won't even know what to dodge because there will be nothing to dodge until he is in pieces.

All of those things besides time hax is useless here.

Fodder to frieza.

Im pretty sure piercing durability is the same thing as any other durability in the dragon ball verse, since you're just focusing ki in your body to make it durable so it wont do much.

The slash isnt doing anything to him.

Ginyu who is 6x stronger than(a lowball) saiyan saga vegeta who is a planet buster

@mattyboi: Pretty sure that's not how it works. Frieza has failed to show any cutting durability. Both times he died, he died coz of his shit piercing durability.

He wasn't able to tank a regular sword that Goku tanked with his finger. Unless you belive Goku's finger>>> Frieza.

In which case, nice.

*sigh*

@topazzz:outclassed physically? Ata best feat is multi planet lvl Right? king vegeta or vegeta did the same thing casually. And if he star lvl then Frieza feat is calculated at star lvl

the same what??

@dmnb2wavy: Filler/ Never happened in Manga.

@wot_m8: i Know it’s filler but I don’t think it matters that much considering Frieza namek destruction became canon even tho it was filler first.

either way it seems like ata wins with hax

?

He only got cut by his own attack or trunks' sword, thats OP.

Regular sword??? Lol. If you think trunks' sword is a regular sword then i honestly have nothing more to say to you, you obviously dont know dragon ball if you think that. And yes, yardrat saga goku's finger>frieza.

Also frieza himself is a star buster, unless you think frieza can one shot himself..

@dmnb2wavy: It does. Filler feats are non-applicable.

@wot_m8: why Exactly? I fail to see why it can’t be used. I mean people use feats for both the manga and anime for dbs If I’m not mistaken.

@dmnb2wavy: Because the author never wrote it... because it's not part of the source material... because some people made it to fill space and episodes without any meaning to extend run times.

@mattyboi: What makes Trunks' sword "OP?"

@wot_m8: 1.I fail to see why that matters Plus that logic is weird. I mean comic book characters got multiple writers and we use all of their feats.

2. So was the namek destruction yet people kept using that feat until it was shown in Canon.

3. Cool still don’t see why that matters.

Give me a real reason why it can’t be used even if it is filler.

i mean dont we use anime and manga feats for dbs goku? I mean some people still use the goku punch feat even tho in the anime it was a blast

@wot_m8: he uses ki and puts it into the sword.

@dmnb2wavy: Because it's filler. Toriyama never wrote it. Hence, it's fan made, head canon. It's as real to the canon as a random fanfic.

That's just how it works. You give me a reason why I should care about some random irrelevant filler feats in a debate about canon?

@dmnb2wavy: And what feats did he have to make his sword super OP? I am just curios.

@wot_m8: 1. None of that matters

2. You don’t have to care.

plus I’m the op anyway so I allow the feat.

i mean...

@wot_m8: he easily cut Frieza

@dmnb2wavy: It does matter. Toriyama's canon>>> Irrelevant fanfic/filler. That's how it is. Yoy're opinion doesn't matter.

2:> Sure. You're the OP. Next time tho, you should clear the conditions or the application of filler feats in your OP. Peace.

@dmnb2wavy: Hmm, first you said, Frieza got cut by Trunks' sword coz it's OP.

Now you are saying Trunks' sword is OP coz it cut Frieza.

That my friend, is circular scaling. Both of these facts cannot he true or it becomes a loop. A Paradox.

@wot_m8: 1. Lol okay for one why does my “opinion“ does not matter compared to yours? Plus this debunked nothing honestly just bc it’s a different writer does not mean much to me.

2. okay

@wot_m8: lol what? When did I say trunks sword is op? I said it has ki

the sword itself is just a regular sword

@dmnb2wavy: It's not an opinion mate. It's a fact. I actually agree with you on Vegeta being a planet buster in SS but Toriyama never showed it in canon. Your or my opinion does not matter. Canon> Filler. That's a simple fact.

@dmnb2wavy: Dammit. That was Mattyboi. He never responded to my post but you did and I mixed you both as a result.

Anyhow, I am bored of this thread so peace out.

@wot_m8: yes canon >> filler but that’s only if it contradicts anything which the filler does not.

i still fail to see why we can’t use filler. Let’s just agree to disagree

The fact that it's powered by trunks' ki, same trunks who can fodderize frieza and hold his supernova.

Why did I knew entering this thread that there are gonna be ignorant people trying to lowball Frieza losing to Trunks lmao.

Either way, if Ata really planet busted in recent chapter (still need to read it) he could pull first 2 rounds but final form is still too much mainly due to Frieza's insane durability and pain tolerance, he can live through bisecting and survive planet busting, same can't be said about Ata so if the things go south Frieza can always planet bust and come out victorious.

Ata vs saiyan saga Vegeta is a missmatch btw.

Bump

It seems samurai 8 already has certified WANKERS. 14 chapters in and mofo's already acting like their samurai 8 experts. I see the same two posters back to back in every thread.

Is Ata powerful? Yes.

Can Ata beat final form freeza? Hell no.

@juzacloud: Recency Bias is a consistent issue on vine. Frieza in base destroyed a planet with 10x gravity of earth. The feat doesn’t get the respect it deserves

the difference between Saiyan Saga Vegeta and First form Frieza is vast

He's not beating Final form Frieza even at 1%

call us wankers, we’ll get characters surpassing frieza soon enough anyway

@wot_m8: its becouse trunks > frieza , not becouse gokus finger > frieza.

And yes , goku literaly used ki to block the sword , you know the same energy source frieza uses , not becouse he got better cutting durability.

he also was prepared to the sword strike unlike frieza.

@wot_m8: if you have to ask what makes trunks sword OP than you should stop debating anything db related.

its not about the sword.

A human hit kid goku with a axe on his head and it didnt cut him , a stronger kid goku had to dodge Tao‘s sword.

its not about the weapon its about the user.

if these things still need to be explained than you ppl should stop debating dragonball.

Imma just wait for the official translation

LOL at Frieza being star level. Probably clears.