Franklin Richads vs Wiccan Demiurge

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Rules

  • They want to kill each other
  • Only 616 feats
  • No preparation
  • Wiccan demiurge
  • Begin 50 feet apart

R1: Bloodlusted / Morals Off (Kid Franklin Richads)

R2: Bloodlusted / Morals Off (Adult Franklin Richads)

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FR both rds

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Wiccan in a good fight

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Demiurge stomps both rounds. Even the multiversal FR statement won't help him here.

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Not familar with Wiccan Demiurge, what are some feats (not statements) that make you think a stomp? Thanks.

Demiurge stomps both rounds. Even the multiversal FR statement won't help him here.

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@green_skaar: He was able to transcend every reality/universe in Marvel and toy with it, as he pleases.

Young Avengers(2013)#12

Loki also mentioned in the same issue, that he(Wiccan as Demiurge) was able to warp reality on a multiversal scale/across all realities.

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^ wop i take that back wiccan stomps

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#11  Edited By StormFan101

R1. Demiurge would definitely take this in a hard fight. Billy hs decent reaction time therefore any attack franklin tried would be pointless. Demiurge's attacks may be blasts at first but once Franklin counters it wiccan will probably put him to sleep since neither are bloodlusted

R2 is a much more interesting match up and I don't know if either are resistant to reality warping so I can't say one way or another. I'll just say it can go either way

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#13  Edited By dami24434

Frank stomps hard... 2 panel feat wonder won't matter to someone who has created multiverses,making adult Franklin megaversal.

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#14  Edited By StormFan101

@dami24434: Demiurge created the utopian parallel dimension which existed outside of the multiverse. Though he hasn't been seen much unlike Franklin, he's still capable of taking him.

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#15  Edited By sky-father

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Wiccan would win by far, he hasn't shown FR level feats for now but by statements and "Demiurge" name factor he should be several tiers above him.

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He is the interdimensional messiah who hasn't tapped his full potential yet. Loki says that he's destined to rewrite the laws of magic. He is god of magic (he was worshipped as a god), Sorcerer Supreme's power would feel like nothing to him, yet he has defeated the likes of Inbetweener.

Just like his mother, reality is his tool. Immortus once explained Scarlet Witch's importance as a nexus being by her children's future potency. Demiurge (old one) was the father of all Elder Gods (Chthon, Gaea, Oshtur, Set etc.) so you can pretty much understand how powerful he is by their feats. Also Demiurge was stated to be omnipotent on Marvel Database, however it doesnt really make sense since theres only one omnipotent being.

@green_skaar: He was able to transcend every reality/universe in Marvel and toy with it, as he pleases.

Young Avengers(2013)#12

Loki also mentioned in the same issue, that he(Wiccan as Demiurge) was able to warp reality on a multiversal scale/across all realities.

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Still below Aunt May though.

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Marvel officially confirms franklin to be their most powerful character and he has several on panel feats showing this.

Wiccan fans. Repeatedly spam two or so panels and statements to try to imply Billy doesn't only hang but actually wins in this fight.

Smh

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I wanna say Franklin