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#1 Posted by Justiceleague1 (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

FOX X-Men:

Wolverine(Gets all of the feats he had in all of the X-Men Movies & his Standalones, Origins, The Wolverine, & Logan)

Iceman(Gets all the feats he had in all the X-Men Movies he was in)

Storm(Gets all of the feats she had in all the X-Men Movies)

Magneto(Gets all of the feats his Young and Old versions have)

Apocolypse

Phoenix(X-Men The Last Stand)

Young Phoenix(X-Men Apocolypse)

Quicksilver

DCEU Krytonians+Trinity:

Batman

Enchantress

Incubus

Superman(Clark has the level of experience he had with his powers he had in BvS)

Wonder Woman(Gets all of the feats she had in BvS and in any WW Trailers/TV Spots/Clips & has her Standard Weaponry, Lasso, Sword, Tiara, Shield, Bracelets, etc)

Faora(Has her Armour/Ventilator on)

Nam-Ek(Has his Armour on and his Ventilator/Mask on)

Zod(He is 100% fully adapted like when he fought Clark in Man of Steel and he has his Armour off)

Morals Off,

Who Wins?

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#2 Edited by Gotoucanario (2958 posts) - - Show Bio

DCEU curbstomp except for QS, QS could solo but idk if he actually hurt kryptonians.

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#3 Posted by Chris-Sama (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

Apocalypse or quicksilver solos

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#4 Posted by TrumpSupporter (346 posts) - - Show Bio

DCEU curbstomp except for QS, QS could solo but idk if he actually hurt kryptonians.

supermans flight speed > qs running speed.

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#5 Posted by PeterParkerJr (6767 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Men Team.

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#6 Posted by deactivated-59d29c479f1ca (4066 posts) - - Show Bio

kryptonians solos.

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#7 Posted by FireStarLord73194 (5040 posts) - - Show Bio

Xmen stomps, u got the fastest speedster in all of live action fiction (save for reeves superman) and the most powerful tk and tp users vs a bunch of bricks. Jeans convince kryptonians to beat each other to death

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#8 Posted by GeorgeWBush (11826 posts) - - Show Bio

Kryptonians get disintegrated/mindraped

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#9 Posted by AlmightyAmortal (862 posts) - - Show Bio

DCEU team.

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#10 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18323 posts) - - Show Bio

@gotoucanario said:

DCEU curbstomp except for QS, QS could solo but idk if he actually hurt kryptonians.

supermans flight speed > qs running speed.

in character he wouldn't stay flying just because this gives him an advantage.

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#11 Posted by Thorthunder98 (6676 posts) - - Show Bio

Fox could win it with Apoc, two phoenix's and Magneto

DCEU can't win because they can't tag Quicksilver

Also if Wolverine extends his claws Quicksilver can pick him up and ram his claws into everyone on the DCEU team before they can react killing them all...

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@gotoucanario said:

DCEU curbstomp except for QS, QS could solo but idk if he actually hurt kryptonians.

supermans flight speed > qs running speed.

Lol no. Give proof of Sullenman being anywhere near Quicksilver

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#14 Posted by mrmonster (15143 posts) - - Show Bio

Several members of team DC could solo

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#15 Posted by Chris-Sama (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

@trumpsupporter said:
@gotoucanario said:

DCEU curbstomp except for QS, QS could solo but idk if he actually hurt kryptonians.

supermans flight speed > qs running speed.

Lol no. Give proof of Sullenman being anywhere near Quicksilver

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#16 Posted by FirestormFate1919 (6217 posts) - - Show Bio

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Apocalypse or quicksilver solos

Guys, how is Quicksilver supposed to harm basically anyone on Team DCEU? He doesn't have remotely the striking power. Sure it would take them forever to tag him, but eventually he goes down with some AoE attacks and some luck.

Apocalypse might have a shot at soloing if he used transmutation in-character. He did it to like two random guys, but then neglected to use it at all in actual combat. I'm assuming he acts the same way here as he did in the fight with the X-Men, and this won't jump straight to transmutation. In which case he gets absolutely pummeled by Superman.

The only factors on Team X-Men are Apocalypse, Phoenix's, and Magneto (QS is hard to put down, but has no contribution in terms of damage output). Magneto can't harm the Kyrptonians or Incubus unless he somehow gains control of the Godkiller Sword, which can cut through basically anything. Unfortunately Wonder Woman is faster and stronger than his magnetic control, not to mention the uncertainty of how magical properties react to his powers. The Poenix's would have a good shot at soloing if they had many TP feats (say like Xavier), but they really didn't, so that's off the table. They have incredibly powerful TP and fire but not strong enough to hurt many people here. They're Glass Cannons, and the Kryptonians/Wonder Woman will blitz them Morals Off.

That leaves Apocalypse, who often opts not to use transmutation, as the only major factor against Superman, Wonder Woman, Incubus, Enchantress, Zod, and to a lesser degree Nam-Ek/Faora. Enchantress is similar to Apocalypse in that she has a billion ridiculous abilities, but never really uses them. They're relatively even alone. Now you've got the guy who moved a techtonic plate and tanked the force of 100x the world's nuclear arsenal, and will rip Apoc to pieces Morals Off. Plus Wonder Woman, who has superspeed and a sword that can cut through anything. Zod is nearly an equal to Clark, and Nam-Ek and Faora both also powerhouses. Incubus has tendrils that transmute matter. There's no way Apoc alone can take all of this on.

I'm saying straight win for Team DCEU almost every time.

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#17 Posted by Chris-Sama (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

@revan2424 said:
@chris-sama said:

Apocalypse or quicksilver solos

Guys, how is Quicksilver supposed to harm basically anyone on Team DCEU? He doesn't have remotely the striking power. Sure it would take them forever to tag him, but eventually he goes down with some AoE attacks and some luck.

Apocalypse might have a shot at soloing if he used transmutation in-character. He did it to like two random guys, but then neglected to use it at all in actual combat. I'm assuming he acts the same way here as he did in the fight with the X-Men, and this won't jump straight to transmutation. In which case he gets absolutely pummeled by Superman.

The only factors on Team X-Men are Apocalypse, Phoenix's, and Magneto (QS is hard to put down, but has no contribution in terms of damage output). Magneto can't harm the Kyrptonians or Incubus unless he somehow gains control of the Godkiller Sword, which can cut through basically anything. Unfortunately Wonder Woman is faster and stronger than his magnetic control, not to mention the uncertainty of how magical properties react to his powers. The Poenix's would have a good shot at soloing if they had many TP feats (say like Xavier), but they really didn't, so that's off the table. They have incredibly powerful TP and fire but not strong enough to hurt many people here. They're Glass Cannons, and the Kryptonians/Wonder Woman will blitz them Morals Off.

That leaves Apocalypse, who often opts not to use transmutation, as the only major factor against Superman, Wonder Woman, Incubus, Enchantress, Zod, and to a lesser degree Nam-Ek/Faora. Enchantress is similar to Apocalypse in that she has a billion ridiculous abilities, but never really uses them. They're relatively even alone. Now you've got the guy who moved a techtonic plate and tanked the force of 100x the world's nuclear arsenal, and will rip Apoc to pieces Morals Off. Plus Wonder Woman, who has superspeed and a sword that can cut through anything. Zod is nearly an equal to Clark, and Nam-Ek and Faora both also powerhouses. Incubus has tendrils that transmute matter. There's no way Apoc alone can take all of this on.

I'm saying straight win for Team DCEU almost every time.

1. Apocalypse was able to react to quicksilver so none of the kryptonians could do anything to him.

2. He's basically invincible physical attacks won't cut it.

3. They will never tag quicksilver

4. They have absolutely zero defense against being mind raped. By either jeans

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#18 Posted by DaLastUchihaMan (407 posts) - - Show Bio

Why do all these repetitive threads always get more talk than new ones??

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#19 Posted by FirestormFate1919 (6217 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama:

Apocalypse was able to react to quicksilver so none of the kryptonians could do anything to him.

First of all, he never moved that fast apart from this, so evasion clearly isn't his tactic of choice. This means he's not gonna run away from Superman. Which means he's gonna get punted into space or ripped to pieces.

Secondly, he was also still waaaaay slower than Pietro. He didn't react to him until he got cocky and stopped in place to mock/stare at Apoc.

Thirdly, Quicksilver wasn't even moving that fast when Apoc was failing to react to him. You'll notice the fire in the background is still actively burning, albeit at a slow rate. The flame is fluctuating, rather than being stationary. Technically a flame generally never moves faster than 15 mph, which would mean Pietro was moving at normal human speed in this scene. Obviously this was likely PIS, so let's assume this is a wierdly fast flame. Still, fire by definition cannot move faster than sound. Pietro was only moving about 6 times faster than that flame at top speed. So at his absolute possible fastest (assuming this is about 3x faster than any flame in history), Pietro's only moving Mach 6 tops. Slower than this when he slowed down in front of Apoc.

Superman has at least Mach 150 speed based on flight back down from orbit. So Apoc's fastest speed is <Mach 6, while Clark's is >Mach 150. He can still very easily blitz Apoc while Morals Off based on feats.

He's basically invincible physical attacks won't cut it.

He's not even remotely invincible. He got sliced open by frickin Mystique. Meanwhile Superman has shifted a Techtonic Plate (> 49,604,008,991,597,453,312 tons). Apoc doesn't have anything to suggest he can deal with a trillionth that level of strength.

They will never tag quicksilver

It'll take forever, but even Pietro gets fatigued eventually. Especially when Superman's Mach 150 speed is nothing to write off. He'll be dealing with a multitude of characters spamming Heat-Vision and massive groundbreaking attacks with AoE damage. He can't run forever, and eventually he dies, even if it takes days-weeks for him to collapse from exhaustion.

You originally said Quicksilver could solo, so how can he do so without having anyway to harm most of his opponents? Even if he somehow never gets tired, it's a stalemate at best, and he certainly can't solo. The only person he can really hurt is Batman.

They have absolutely zero defense against being mind raped. By either jeans

This is generally the issue with FoX-Men characters in battles, and I'd agree if someone like Xavier was in this one, but neither Jean's have any really good TP feats. Original Jean couldn't even TP Logan, or the other X-Men. Sansa Jean has basically no TP feats except helping Xavier fight Apoc for a little, but no feats of "mind-raping" anyone. Neither has anything suggesting they can TP an entire team of characters. Beyond that, even if they could TP someone like Superman they've still never killed anyone using it. Then you've got Enchantress, who has TP of her own. I don't think TP is a threat in this battle, because the Jean's just don't have great feats with it. Xavier is still wildly disproportionate in TP feats compared to everyone else in-universe.

I stand by Team DCEU wrecking.

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#20 Posted by RBT (27793 posts) - - Show Bio

QS steals the Godkiller from Diana. It will all go downhill from there.

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#21 Posted by blackpantherisb (7119 posts) - - Show Bio

QS solos with Diana's sword

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#22 Posted by Chris-Sama (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama:

Apocalypse was able to react to quicksilver so none of the kryptonians could do anything to him.

First of all, he never moved that fast apart from this, so evasion clearly isn't his tactic of choice. This means he's not gonna run away from Superman. Which means he's gonna get punted into space or ripped to pieces.

Secondly, he was also still waaaaay slower than Pietro. He didn't react to him until he got cocky and stopped in place to mock/stare at Apoc.

Thirdly, Quicksilver wasn't even moving that fast when Apoc was failing to react to him. You'll notice the fire in the background is still actively burning, albeit at a slow rate. The flame is fluctuating, rather than being stationary. Technically a flame generally never moves faster than 15 mph, which would mean Pietro was moving at normal human speed in this scene. Obviously this was likely PIS, so let's assume this is a wierdly fast flame. Still, fire by definition cannot move faster than sound. Pietro was only moving about 6 times faster than that flame at top speed. So at his absolute possible fastest (assuming this is about 3x faster than any flame in history), Pietro's only moving Mach 6 tops. Slower than this when he slowed down in front of Apoc.

Superman has at least Mach 150 speed based on flight back down from orbit. So Apoc's fastest speed is <Mach 6, while Clark's is >Mach 150. He can still very easily blitz Apoc while Morals Off based on feats.

He's basically invincible physical attacks won't cut it.

He's not even remotely invincible. He got sliced open by frickin Mystique. Meanwhile Superman has shifted a Techtonic Plate (> 49,604,008,991,597,453,312 tons). Apoc doesn't have anything to suggest he can deal with a trillionth that level of strength.

They will never tag quicksilver

It'll take forever, but even Pietro gets fatigued eventually. Especially when Superman's Mach 150 speed is nothing to write off. He'll be dealing with a multitude of characters spamming Heat-Vision and massive groundbreaking attacks with AoE damage. He can't run forever, and eventually he dies, even if it takes days-weeks for him to collapse from exhaustion.

You originally said Quicksilver could solo, so how can he do so without having anyway to harm most of his opponents? Even if he somehow never gets tired, it's a stalemate at best, and he certainly can't solo. The only person he can really hurt is Batman.

They have absolutely zero defense against being mind raped. By either jeans

This is generally the issue with FoX-Men characters in battles, and I'd agree if someone like Xavier was in this one, but neither Jean's have any really good TP feats. Original Jean couldn't even TP Logan, or the other X-Men. Sansa Jean has basically no TP feats except helping Xavier fight Apoc for a little, but no feats of "mind-raping" anyone. Neither has anything suggesting they can TP an entire team of characters. Beyond that, even if they could TP someone like Superman they've still never killed anyone using it. Then you've got Enchantress, who has TP of her own. I don't think TP is a threat in this battle, because the Jean's just don't have great feats with it. Xavier is still wildly disproportionate in TP feats compared to everyone else in-universe.

I stand by Team DCEU wrecking.

He got sliced open but healed instantly Beating him with brute force won't cut it at alll the speed quicksilver was moving at was still WAYYY faster than supes could ever move and apoc STILL reacted to him. The kryptonians won't do anything to apoc.

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@chris-sama:

He got sliced open but healed instantly Beating him with brute force won't cut it at alll the speed quicksilver was moving at was still WAYYY faster than supes could ever move and apoc STILL reacted to him. The kryptonians won't do anything to apoc.

His Healing Factor isn't gonna save him if Superman rips him into 20 different pieces and throws each of them miles apart, which he has both the strength and morality to do. Just because Apoc can heal from Mystique doesn't make him immune to brute force, especially when almost everyone here has millions of times the damage output of Mystique, and in Supes' case literally Undecillion times the damage output.

Are you arguing >Mach 6 is "WAYYY faster" than Supes' could ever move, because that's absurd. He has feats of moving conservatively Mach 150. That's about 25 times faster than anything Apoc has reacted to.

So yes, Superman has both the damage output and the speed to completely destroy Apocalypse.

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#24 Posted by Chris-Sama (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama:

He got sliced open but healed instantly Beating him with brute force won't cut it at alll the speed quicksilver was moving at was still WAYYY faster than supes could ever move and apoc STILL reacted to him. The kryptonians won't do anything to apoc.

His Healing Factor isn't gonna save him if Superman rips him into 20 different pieces and throws each of them miles apart, which he has both the strength and morality to do. Just because Apoc can heal from Mystique doesn't make him immune to brute force, especially when almost everyone here has millions of times the damage output of Mystique, and in Supes' case literally Undecillion times the damage output.

Are you arguing >Mach 6 is "WAYYY faster" than Supes' could ever move, because that's absurd. He has feats of moving conservatively Mach 150. That's about 25 times faster than anything Apoc has reacted to.

So yes, Superman has both the damage output and the speed to completely destroy Apocalypse.

No. Kid he's no where near the speed quicksilver was going quicksilver literally stopped time, supes is not fast enough to deal with apocalypse also Im pretty sure he'd be able to heal from being ripped apart he was literaly decapitated and healed he also has shields and is able to teleport I believe supes probably ain't getting through his shields.

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#25 Posted by FirestormFate1919 (6217 posts) - - Show Bio

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No. Kid he's no where near the speed quicksilver was going quicksilver literally stopped time, supes is not fast enough to deal with apocalypse also Im pretty sure he'd be able to heal from being ripped apart he was literaly decapitated and healed he also has shields and is able to teleport I believe supes probably ain't getting through his shields.

He didn't "stop time", that's a visual effect. He's just moving faster proportionally than the things around him. The fact the fire in the background is moving means that Quicksilver's max speed in that particular scene is around Mach 6, and less than this when Apoc finally reacts. Meanwhile Superman's speed is at least Mach 150. I'm not sure what's difficult to understand about this. If you can refute Apoc's best feat being <Mach 6 and Supes' best feat being >Mach 150, maybe we can debate this. For now, it's perfectly within Clark's ability to blitz that fool.

Apoc's shields' best feats are tanking lightning, Cyclops' blasts, and Magneto's shrapnel. Magneto could inflict maybe 100 tons of force on the shields, add another 75 from Cyclops, and 25 from Storm. That's 200 tons of force total. Meanwhile Superman can inflict >49,604,008,991,597,453,312 tons of force. That's about 2,487,500,000,000,000,000 times more force than anything Apoc's shields have withstood. Once again, I don't see how there's much debate here.

Healing from being decapitated (which I don't remember happening anyway) is a lot different than being ripped to pieces and being scattered miles apart. Apoc's Healing Factor is not limitless.

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#26 Posted by TrumpSupporter (346 posts) - - Show Bio

@trumpsupporter said:
@gotoucanario said:

DCEU curbstomp except for QS, QS could solo but idk if he actually hurt kryptonians.

supermans flight speed > qs running speed.

Lol no. Give proof of Sullenman being anywhere near Quicksilver

He's flown from Ellensmere Island to Africa literally in seconds, He's flown from America all the way too the Indian in a matter of minutes.

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#27 Posted by Thoromdil (1826 posts) - - Show Bio

Quicksilver is gonna be the only problem, but I think Enchantress might be able to take care of him with magic. The rest is fodder compared to DC busters, I mean they will kill everyone with a single punch each. Even apocalypse will get his healing overtaxed when several kryptonians + magical duo is gonna beat it with heat vision and magic from all sides.

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#28 Edited by christianrapper (6159 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't get this qs is so fast crap. the kryptonias are like a whole bunch of quicksilvers on steroids. they have his powers and more.

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#29 Edited by deltahuman (4969 posts) - - Show Bio

Man all the kryptonians here along with Superman and Zod at 100% will instantly kill almost everyone here except maybe quicksilver and that too only if quicksilver keeps running. If he gets tired and stops then that's the end game for him.

The main threat's are Apocalypse and the Phoenixes. Apocalypse should have been able to kill everyone in Xmen Apocalypse if he had used his powers well. I mean the guy turned a whole city into sand. with that level of matter manipulation, he could disintegrate almost anybody. But look at what happened to him. He stupidly tried to block the attacks and did nothing. With that strategy he'll be killed easily. He was cut by mystique. One slice by Wonder woman and apocalypse's head is gone. Heal from that. And then you also have Incubus and Enchantress who are pretty powerful themselves. Are you telling me both Jean's can resist the kryptonians together along with Diana Incubus and Enchantress. That's an overkill.

the rest are basically fodder. None have the ability to even touch the DC team let alone have enough damage output to hurt them.

If Apocalypse and the Phoenixes team up well and they didn't Job in the fight like they do normally. Maybe they could win. I mean the Pheonixes are incredibly powerful but are still glass cannons. Apocalypse on the other hand has much better offensive and defensive power. But DC kryptonian team with Diana Incubus and Enchantress are too powerful for them to handle

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#30 Edited by TravisTouchdown (455 posts) - - Show Bio

Fox team

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@revan2424 said:
@chris-sama said:

Apocalypse or quicksilver solos

Guys, how is Quicksilver supposed to harm basically anyone on Team DCEU? He doesn't have remotely the striking power. Sure it would take them forever to tag him, but eventually he goes down with some AoE attacks and some luck.

Apocalypse might have a shot at soloing if he used transmutation in-character. He did it to like two random guys, but then neglected to use it at all in actual combat. I'm assuming he acts the same way here as he did in the fight with the X-Men, and this won't jump straight to transmutation. In which case he gets absolutely pummeled by Superman.

The only factors on Team X-Men are Apocalypse, Phoenix's, and Magneto (QS is hard to put down, but has no contribution in terms of damage output). Magneto can't harm the Kyrptonians or Incubus unless he somehow gains control of the Godkiller Sword, which can cut through basically anything. Unfortunately Wonder Woman is faster and stronger than his magnetic control, not to mention the uncertainty of how magical properties react to his powers. The Poenix's would have a good shot at soloing if they had many TP feats (say like Xavier), but they really didn't, so that's off the table. They have incredibly powerful TP and fire but not strong enough to hurt many people here. They're Glass Cannons, and the Kryptonians/Wonder Woman will blitz them Morals Off.

That leaves Apocalypse, who often opts not to use transmutation, as the only major factor against Superman, Wonder Woman, Incubus, Enchantress, Zod, and to a lesser degree Nam-Ek/Faora. Enchantress is similar to Apocalypse in that she has a billion ridiculous abilities, but never really uses them. They're relatively even alone. Now you've got the guy who moved a techtonic plate and tanked the force of 100x the world's nuclear arsenal, and will rip Apoc to pieces Morals Off. Plus Wonder Woman, who has superspeed and a sword that can cut through anything. Zod is nearly an equal to Clark, and Nam-Ek and Faora both also powerhouses. Incubus has tendrils that transmute matter. There's no way Apoc alone can take all of this on.

I'm saying straight win for Team DCEU almost every time.

What has she done to prove your point?

What movie was this in??

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#32 Posted by buildhare (8649 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean solos, Apoc solos, Quicksilver solos.

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#33 Posted by buildhare (8649 posts) - - Show Bio

@firestormfate1919:

Unfortunately Wonder Woman is faster and stronger than his magnetic control

This is false even for pre-Apocalypse Magento (lifting a stadium and the golden gate bridge is several levels above what Superman is capable of (ship pull being his best feat) to the point it doesn't even compare, and Wonder Woman is at best slightly worse than him) and there is absolutely no discussion to be had on whether or not she's stronger than post-Apoc Mags who is far more powerful than any previous version of himself.

He could rip it out of her hands without any difficulty, but in reality he could skip the semantics and hold her to the ground or simply turn her metal armour into a trash compacter.

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#34 Posted by Wewlad80 (3411 posts) - - Show Bio

DCEU team get Destroyed.

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#35 Edited by Gotoucanario (2958 posts) - - Show Bio

@buildhare said:

Jean solos, Apoc solos, Quicksilver solos.

Jean got one shot by a wolverine stab and couldn't vaporize wolverine's flesh because of his healing... I don't see how is she going to touch superman. I agree QS could *maybe* solo but in character he will just try to punch Supes/WW and break his hand.

Apoc I don't remember that much of, what can he do to make him solo this.

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@gotoucanario said:
@buildhare said:

Jean solos, Apoc solos, Quicksilver solos.

Jean got one shot by a wolverine stab and couldn't vaporize wolverine's flesh because of his healing... I don't see how is she going to touch superman.

Jean was holding the Pheonix back. She still retained a degree of control and awareness and was literally begging him to kill her.

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#38 Posted by buildhare (8649 posts) - - Show Bio

@gotoucanario:

Jean got one shot by a wolverine stab and couldn't vaporize wolverine's flesh because of his healing... I don't see how is she going to touch superman.

As others have said she wanted to die, but I wasn't even talking about her destructive powers. She has telepathy sufficient to totally dominate Xavier, 6 people with no TP resistance of any kind are nothing to her.

I agree QS could *maybe* solo but in character he will just try to punch Supes/WW and break his hand.

In the OP;

Morals Off,

Apoc I don't remember that much of, what can he do to make him solo this.

TK sufficient to lift a pyramids worth of materials, he could hold everyone to the ground if he wanted to. Shields capable of standing up to the X-men + Magneto, transmutation, teleportation, reflexes sufficient to react to QS and a few more things that don't really matter.

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#39 Edited by Chaos239 (5081 posts) - - Show Bio

Why doesn't Clark blitz everyone on the FOX team?

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#40 Posted by RBT (27793 posts) - - Show Bio

@chaos239: Because he can't? Give me one instance of him blitzing more than 1 person at a time. Just one..

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#41 Posted by deactivated-5b60e98a8eb99 (11593 posts) - - Show Bio

QS stops his team from being blitzed, then Jean and Mags solo.

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#42 Posted by Chaos239 (5081 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: this is no morals Clark, he will blitz, give me one instance of anyone on FOX Team being capable of hurting someone like Clark?

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#43 Posted by deactivated-5b60e98a8eb99 (11593 posts) - - Show Bio
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@rbt: this is no morals Clark, he will blitz, give me one instance of anyone on FOX Team being capable of hurting someone like Clark?

QS can move his team out of the way of Clark's blitz, and either Phoenix can just mind control him.

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#44 Posted by RBT (27793 posts) - - Show Bio

@chaos239: QS with Godkiller? Diana is not fast enough to stop him. And morals off, QS will have no problem chopping off limbs. As for Clark blitzing because he's morals off. Havung looser morals does not allow you to do something you are physically incapable of. Clark can't blitz a group of people. At best he can bullrush a single opponent, but that's it.

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