FOX X-24 vs. MCU Lady Sif

@rockette said:

@jay_z94 said:

@rockette said:

@the_fallen_lord said:

Lady Sif. Adamantium claws could hurt her if only X-24 had the strength to put the required power behind his strikes to cut through Sif's Asgardian armor. Heck I'm not even sure if he's strong enough to pierce Asgardian skin let alone armor.

A claw swipe probably leaves a surface cut. A claw stab may penetrate her skin, probably the armor too, but gets minimal penetration there.

X-24 wasn't very bright, or fast.

She is the best female warrior in all of Asgard!

Hell, if it comes to pass that she can't hurt him with her weapons, she could just do this to him, given her superior strength ...

Makes perfect sense, it's not as if X-24 was ragdolling people just like Sif and lifting a 27 ton truck off of himself, of course Sif is gonna bully him with her horrendously superior strength that has been made up proven.

Lets not forget her 1000 years of experience and the fact that she is a female warrior. Women can do anything that men can.

Oooohhh!

Your one of those douches!

Let me elaborate then.

Sif is actually STRONGER than the average Asgardian male.

She is also second only to Thor in combat prowess (movie Universe, so far).

X-24 had almost ZERO fighting skill. He was like an animal. A very slow, somewhat strong animal.

Sif is gonna slaughter him like the animal he is.

The more you talk, the more I remember how weak X-24 was.

I see you've resorted to name calling already, that resolves what exactly?

Proof? X-24 has shown similar strength feats, and even has one that is arguably superior.

Very slow? His claw swipes were faster than any attack i've seen Sif perform, he even decapped a guy before he could react.

Is she really? Because he has shrugged of more concussive force than she has ever produced and has taken literally a 100 stabs to no effect. She will never put him down, while she can't afford to get hit by those claws.

Classic overrating of asgardians with no actual proof to show for it

@jay_z94:

If the boot fits at "name calling".

You sir were being sexist.

Just called you out on it.

If you noticed in the movies, when she threatens Loki, he listens. Loki doesn't really listen to anyone.

If Loki has the balls to fight Thor straight-up but is nervous when threatened by her, that gives credit to her strength & prowess.

Female warriors like her are only where they are at through action.

Examples: Red Sonja, Elektra, Gamora, Psylocke, Angela, etc. ALL have been named at top of their respective classes, and with good reason.

Movie Sif is no exception.

Sif would carve that lame character up like a Thanksgiving turkey.

Haha where was I being sexist?

Wow, so your only proof for all of this is respect and character reactions?

I couldn't care less about all of that, only their feats matter.

X-24 will heal instantly from any sword strikes.

She on the over hand gets cut to ribbons

@jay_z94:

Ahh ok, so you acknowledge adamantium being able to cut asgardians

I put Adamantium in the same tier as Asgardian metal and Vibranium. So yeah, in a general sense, Adamantium should be able to cut Asgardians.

There's nothing to suggest that it requires a lot of strength to cut adsgardians,

It's common sense, isn't it? The same weapon in the hands of a 5 yr old and a grown man would deal different amount of damage. For example as I said earlier I put Asgardian metal and Vibranium in the same tier beacause Cap's shield was able to repel Thor's hammer strike. Now in Avengers, when Cap fought Loki, Cap's shield throw is rendered useless by Loki who tanks it on his body without even flinching. The same shield throw was able to damage non-vibranium Ultron in the highway fight scene in AoU. That gives us an idea about Asgardian durabilty. But that's not the point. The point is the same shield would cause more damage in the hands of someone stronger, say, Thor which means it's not the shield that's weak but it's Cap who wasn't strong enough to put the required amount of power behind the shield throw to hurt Loki. That's why I said that Adamantium being able to cut Asgardians is not enough, the wielder also needs to have the required strength to use the weapon to it's fullest potential.

and there's nothing to suggest that asgardian metal is superior to adamantium.

I never said that. But there's also nothing to suggest that Asgardian metal is inferior to Adamantium. That's why I put them in the same tier.

And how is Sif actually gonna put X-24 down?

By decapitating him? By cutting off his limbs? By knocking him out?

Sif

@jay_z94:

Adamantium claws are able to cut through anything, including solid steel in the movies by Logan who is weaker than X-24. I have never seen asgardians resist a cutting a attack, can you show me where that knife can't go through the asgardian soldier's hand?

Well, it's been pierced by an arrow that isn't asgardian metal

But it wasn't earth metal either. As I said earlier and I repeat it's been established in the MCU that there are alien metals including Asgardian that are superior to earth metal.

He has an adamantium skeleton, so no.

I dont remember that being said in the movie, so I doubt it. But even if he does it doesn't matter. If Adamantium can cut Sif's armor then why can't her sword cut X-24's skeleton. There is nothing to suggest that Adamantium is superior to Asgardian metal.

Also he is visibly faster.

Lol no, he was being tagged by old Logan who was way past his prime and X-24 is a brawler with minimal fighting skills. And Sif's sword gives her a reach advantage so she doesn't even have to close in to land her strikes. I doubt X-24 can even touch a seasoned warrior like Sif.

He never got KOed by concussive force. He tanked being spun around by logan hitting him with an army truck door, rammed into a combine by an SUV and having an army truck being dropped onto him. Any slashing damage will be healed instantly too.

While on the other hand, those claws are bad news for her.

The moment she realizes that X-24 has instantaneous healing, instead of slashing she would just cut off his limbs and decapitate him to permanently put him down.

As far as blunt force durability is concerned X-24 has never taken hits from someone as strong as an Asgardian. A casual push from Sif can send men flying, I doubt X-24 can tank a full blown hit from her.

sif wins. Much better fighter, much stronger, and faster. X - 24's healing factor was not that strong. He can die by being damaged too much.

X-24 was incaped by an ordinary man with a truck and a shotgun. I'm sure Sif could figure out a way to do so. I'd give her a very slight majority.

After reading all the arguments I think Sif wins.

@jay_z94:

Hmmm, it was never established that asgardian or alien metal is superior to all earthly metals. Considering her shield was pierced by a weapon made out of a different material, it can not be classed as indestructible, which is what adamantium is, it can only be affected by adamantium itself.

This is getting repetitive. I've already proved more than once how Asgardian metal is superior to Earth metals. The fact that Asgardians are impervious to damage by earth metals and susceptible to damage by Asgardian and other alien metals proves my point. Most of the alien species in the MCU are stronger and more durable than humans. It isn't far fetched to assume that there could be alien metals as strong as Asgardian, Vibranium and Adamantium. If we can't agree on such trivial things then there's no point in debating further on this.

Sif isn't even that fast, X-24's swings are visibly faster than hers. X-24 decapitated a guy before he could even react.

Lol, so just cuz some fodder guy couldn't react to X-24, it makes him faster than Sif. Pfft.

@the_fallen_lord: To add to your point, Vibranium isn't technically an Earth Metal either, it's from a Meteorite that fell to earth. So technically it's an alien Metal as well which is one of the reasons it's so hard to come by, and is known as one of the toughest if not toughest metals that is currently on Marvel Earth. Adamantium is earth based though.

Good point.

Going with Sif here as well. She is a far superior fighter and will eventually find a way to incapacitate X-24(KO or BFR).

I will point out that adamantium can only cut adamantium if it is superheated. This was established in Origins and in The Wolverine and is how Wolverine was able to decapitate Wade, who had an adamantium skeleton at the time(Logan's claws were superheated by his heat beams), and Silver Samarai cutting off Wolverine's Claws in the second film(in which he explains how he was able to do this).

There is a bit of an inconsistency with the adamantium bullets however. The one in Origins put small bullet holes in Logan's skull while the bullet in Logan literally exploded X-24's adamantium skull. lol. So perhaps X-24 had a cheap version of the compound or something. Either way unless Sif has some bullets lying around(or a stove), I doubt she'd be able to penetrate his skull to kill him that way with her sword. Unless she stabbed him through the eyes.

You're gonna have to prove it can cut Asgardians...

...the statement by Eliot was "no material on earth can harm me" which is why the vibranium came from space argument doesn't work...he didn't say earth metals or material, or metals FROM earth, he said not material ON Earth, knowing full well that Vibranium exists on the planets. Also carbon, iron, and a whole bunch other stuff came to earth on meteorites as well. So Admantium auto cutting an asgardian metal is not an automatic. You'd have to prove it has traits that make it favorable to MCU Vibranium.

This makes no sense, they don't know that adamantium exists. And it is comprised of earthly materials as well as alien material found in a meteorite.

There's no 100% way to prove it can cut Asgardians as they are from different Universes, but Thor who is arguably the most powerful asgardian was cut by Loki's knife. Now this is the part where you try and prove that the knife is superior to all earthly knives.

There's also the fact that Sif's shield was pierced easily by a slow moving vanaheim arrow, whereas Adamantium is stated to be indestructible and can only be affected by other adamantium. Therefore this is proof that adamantium is superior to Asgardian metals, therefore meaning that Loki's knife should be inferior to adamantium.

Weird that Sifs shield can deflect a barrage of bullets, but get penetrated by a slow arrow

Are you certain he made this claim? I've seen that episode recently and don't recall him saying this at all. I also checked a few other pages just to be sure, but didn't find anything remotely close. Maybe he appeared in another episode that I forgot about.

Is a one hit enough to KO ?

Asgardian weapons are scifi/magical

@jay_z94: The fact that they are the only things in the MCU shown to cut asgardians proves it.

That's a no limits fallacy, as indestructible metals haven't failed to cut them.

To be honest there's no real way to prove or disprove it

X-24s healing factor was fast but it only healed like 2-3 lethal wounds before it completely shut off. She is more skilled as fast or faster and ridiculously stronger, she would murder him. The only way I see him winning is if she completely underestimated him and he got in one good stab etc.

Her sword and shield should be about equal to Adamantium so it's plausible that she he can block his attacks.

If Wolverine was the X-Men DoFP version he would've stomped X-24 and killed him with one or two wounds that he would've promptly healed through.

I say Sif 9/10 the one loss being her playing it stupid or underestimating him. Edit:forgot her shield got damaged so I would lower it to 8/10 wins for Sif.

Sif stomps.

Lady Sif MURDERS X-24 with minor difficulties!

Don't forget Lady Sif carries magically-enhanced weapons that allows her to go hand-to-hand and war with the Frost Giants, other Asgardians, and other warriors from other planes of existence. She has thousands upon thousands of experiences in warfares, magic capabilities, and enhanced physicality, whereas X-24 barely edges her out in the healing department.

@jay_z94: X24 didn't have adamantium skeleton

lol

Sif wins, she can parry his claws with her sword and I'm pretty sure she hits harder than a shotgun round

Sif

@apex_pretador: How did X-24 not have an adamantium skeleton?

1. A plot-device adamantium bullet to the skill was needed to kill him, why didn't they just use a normal bullet?

2. It's an exact clone of Prime Wolverine, why on earth would they just make his skull adamantium and not the rest of his skeleton adamantium like the actual Wolverine?

3. If he didn't have an adamantium skeleton, his bones would have been completely crushed and his body would have been mutilated when that pick-up rammed him into the combine or when that 25000+ pound army truck was dropped onto him.

That's the evidence that he did indeed have an adamantium skeleton, while there's absolutely no evidence that he didn't.

X-24 shreds Sif

x-24 has the adamantium skeleton in the MCU. Maybe, just maybe, sif could KO him before she gets tagged.

More likely than not though, RIP Sif.

Sif dies horribly.

X-24 wins.

sif out muscle him then brain stabs