(Fox) Quicksilver vs (DCEU) Superman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Steppenwolf, Cyborg & Aquaman

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Poll (Fox) Quicksilver vs (DCEU) Superman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Steppenwolf, Cyborg & Aquaman (224 votes)

(Fox) Quicksilver 59%
(DCEU) Superman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Steppenwolf, Cyborg & Aquaman 41%

Quicksilver opens with phasing:

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Can he win?

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@ruthlesskiller: Superman is far more durable than AP is, it doesn’t matter the hax he’s got stat wise Superman is world above and you know it just like you know QS breaks his hand, or by your logic he goes Samurai jack and start slicing fools so tell me what is more reasonable to believe?

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@omriamar: Is QS prone to breaking his bones?

Is Superman unmoved everytime he gets hit?

If Superman is not bracing, why would he not be moved by a punch that is clearly capable of launching humanoids off their feet?

I don’t understand why you are so convinced QS would break his hand.

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@omriamar: Okay. Let's assume QS is in character. In days of future past during the kitchen scene was he punching the guys in white? Didn't he goof off? Isn't that how he behaves in character? Don't mention Apocalypse here, that was a battle for the fucking planet, this is a random encounter so he goofs off.

The op did not even specify anything so I can say he is bloodlusted and grabs the sword or punches and you can also say he is in character and doesn't. But you can't say that quicksilver is in character and punches when it is not a planet threatening situation.

Let's also say that Quicksilver somehow, without any proof whatsoever, breaks his hand from punching a superman whose head was knocked back by slower bullets. If he wants them dead he changes tactics and grabs the sword and slices them. If he just wants to ko he might leave. At the end of the day, he wins or he leaves.

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@optimuspalm: just leave him be. Anyone objective will realise he doesn't have a point and is making statements with no basis in canon. He does that in all dceu battle threads. I'm only replying him to make it clear to others he is wrong.

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@jashugan: Beating hulk

And tanking suprise attacks (knifes etc necro ship)

Those are more than enough

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#157  Edited By miekskywalker

@jashugan: He hasn’t tanked anything on par with a necro ship

Also this is qs vs the jl not thanos.

And qs wins

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@miekskywalker: superman has survived a nuke which is far above that ship that his thanos.

Back on topic, quicksilver won't win because he won't magically know or try to stab every JL member with wonder woman's sword or Aquaman's trident. Anyone that believes so will need to provide evidence for it.

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#159  Edited By miekskywalker

@jashugan: Heat resistance isn’t the same as blunt durability

If it was Thor would be the best tank there is.

Edit: Qs doesn’t even need to throw a punch

He positions everyone into a kill zone

Superman punches aquaman while aquaman stabs him in the head with his trident

Wonderwoman stabs wolf in the head while he plants his axe on her head

And cyborg and flash can easily be killed with any sharp object

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#160  Edited By jashugan

@miekskywalker: You do know that nuclear bombs have far more than heat, right? They have ridiculous levels of force and pressure applied. This is why when a nuke is dropped, everything around it doesn't just melt and things are blown away and blows up.

Thor is a tank, but isn't quite Superman's level.

Please get back on topic for why Quicksilver could win.

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@jashugan: I edited the post about qs but you replied quickly.

And Thor is above superman in heat resistance so I don’t know where you got that from.

Prolonged exposure to a star>>>Nuke

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@miekskywalker:

Superman punches aquaman while aquaman stabs him in the head with his trident

citation

Wonderwoman stabs wolf in the head while he plants his axe on her head

citation

And cyborg and flash can easily be killed with any sharp object

citation

Prolonged exposure to a star>>>Nuke

We don't debate fake stars

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@jashugan:

The logic is strong

It’s all fake...

And what do you need a citation for? Dceu and Qs have never had a fight they don’t have feats of fighting each other where do you get citations from??

Qs has feats of moving and positioning people making them safe he can easily do the opposite and put them in a kill zone

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Superman solos.

Flash could solo

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@miekskywalker:

please provide quicksilver doing anything like you mentioned

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@jashugan: He has moved a lot of people. And projectiles out of the way. Watch his iconic scenes

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silver rolls there heads

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Shouldn't Peter just break his hand on Clark

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@miekskywalker: just post it

@kevd4wg said:

Shouldn't Peter just break his hand on Clark

possibly but some believe he's a mind reading genius that will instead pick up Wonder Woman's sword &/or Aquaman's trident and just stab everyone.

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@jashugan: I’m on my phone

Just type in quicksilver kitchen scene

And I’m sure you have seen the mansion one

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Even if Quicksilver breaks his hand punching Clark, he'd still have one good hand, the knowledge about superman's durability, and all the time of the wolrd to figure out a way to put him down. Use weapons like Diana's sword its a very reasonable thing.

More important, none of JL characters can tag Peter, so in the worse case it's a stelemate, but logic says Quicksilver stomps.

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@percybender: you would think he would figure out quickly that punching Apocalypse didn't hurt him and then he would've just impaled him in place with metals like Magneto did, but that never happened either. Quicksilver is nowhere near as smart as some of you are giving him credit for.

One broken leg put him out of the fight with Apocalypse, a broken arm will put him out of the fight here too.

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@jashugan: Can you use your brain and see how Peter fights? Well clearly you can't. In most of his fights, he's massively faster than anyone around him (much like now) and he has fun with them, using their own weapons and environmental factors. It's not a stretch to see Peter just impale Diana on her own sword just for the fun of it. Same with Aquaman and his trident. He may even break a hand on Supes, but of course that's one of his TWOhands. Anyone with a brain would then go back to weapons. It's the most basic thing. Do you really think Peter that stupid? Besides, you have nothing to prove that any member of the JL can even perceive Peter. He's much much faster than all of them.

Here's my proof for his playing around:

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@jashugan said:

@percybender: you would think he would figure out quickly that punching Apocalypse didn't hurt him and then he would've just impaled him in place with metals like Magneto did, but that never happened either. Quicksilver is nowhere near as smart as some of you are giving him credit for.

One broken leg put him out of the fight with Apocalypse, a broken arm will put him out of the fight here too.

His broken leg put him out of the fight because that's what he uses to run really fast. A broken arm wouldn't do anything.

Still going on with stupid arguments, eh little bitch?

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@thefineste: have you ever been in a fight where one of your arm is completely broken? Do you believe you would not be hindered at all when that happens?

Can you use your brain and see how Peter fights? Well clearly you can't. In most of his fights, he's massively faster than anyone around him (much like now) and he has fun with them, using their own weapons and environmental factors. It's not a stretch to see Peter just impale Diana on her own sword just for the fun of it. Same with Aquaman and his trident. He may even break a hand on Supes, but of course that's one of his TWOhands. Anyone with a brain would then go back to weapons. It's the most basic thing. Do you really think Peter that stupid? Besides, you have nothing to prove that any member of the JL can even perceive Peter. He's much much faster than all of them.

Here's my proof for his playing around:

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None of the Justice League use guns except Cyborg. None of his guns can harm anyone else here in this battle fataly.Wonder Woman is physically stronger than everyone Quicksilver ever fought.

Quicksilver isn't as smart as you're giving him credit because nothing mentioned here happened when he fought Apocalypse. He didn't impale him. He didn't immediately go to think of getting weapons. He didn't slow time down and break out of mud, none of that happened at all.

In a random battle against other characters where he has to actually fight, this is what happens.

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@jashugan said:

@percybender: you would think he would figure out quickly that punching Apocalypse didn't hurt him and then he would've just impaled him in place with metals like Magneto did, but that never happened either. Quicksilver is nowhere near as smart as some of you are giving him credit for.

One broken leg put him out of the fight with Apocalypse, a broken arm will put him out of the fight here too.

You have no point.

Peter didn't gone for weapons because in his mind he could keep punching Apocalypse for much more time than that, it was too soon to discard the possibility of damage him with his fists. He had no way to know about the adaptation thing, wich none of JL characters have.

If he breaks the hand punching Clark, why he'd keep doing that? Is he retarded?

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@percybender:

You have no point.

I do, he's not as competent as you give him credit

He had no way to know about the adaptation thing

just like he has no clue about any of the Justice League characters powers which will lead him to punch all of them like he did Apocalypse.

Is he retarded?

possibly

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For all you DECU/CW fans who say Quicksilver looses to the statues.....ALL of your arguments involving Flash, Diana, or Clark winning due to speed. ...JUST WENT STRAIGHT OUT THE WINDOW.... ENJOY THE SALT...HAVE SOME EXTRA AND ADD SOME PEPPER....

Well, not how it works. THey are statues to him, but he still lacks the tools to get to them. He can't damage any of them (and being able to damage someone is very important) and even the idea of him taking Diana's sword is asinine as he would be 100% unable to loosen her grip enough to take her sword. Also, if Superman simply flies up, he is useless.

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why does the thread say it's locked

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@jashugan said:

@percybender:

You have no point.

I do, he's not as competent as you give him credit

He had no way to know about the adaptation thing

just like he has no clue about any of the Justice League characters powers which will lead him to punch all of them like he did Apocalypse.

Is he retarded?

possibly

I also like that they believe that he can simply wrestle a sword from Wonder Woman's hand. I mean, no matter how much of a statue she becomes, he doesn't have the strength to break her grip. He doesn't have a percent of the strength required to break her grip.

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Didnt Superman travel so fast he went back in time

:P

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Also, there is a good chance that the Flash is as fast as QS. Two main reasons. Firstly, he was slightly faster than Superman, who has massivelly hypersonic travel speed, and secondly, the file Amanda Waller has on Flash says he can achieve the speed of light.

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@jashugan said:

@percybender:

You have no point.

I do, he's not as competent as you give him credit

He had no way to know about the adaptation thing

just like he has no clue about any of the Justice League characters powers which will lead him to punch all of them like he did Apocalypse.

Is he retarded?

possibly

Of course, it takes a lot of wisdom to think about using weapons against someone you can't hurt with your hands, it's just too much for an average brain.

He don't have to know about JL characters powers, they are statues, and unlike Apocalypse they'll remain in that condition, even if Peter breaks a hand.

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@percybender:

it's just too much for an average brain.

too much for quicksilver

He don't have to know about JL characters powers, they are statues, and unlike Apocalypse they'll remain in that condition, even if Peter breaks a hand.

Now this is a stupid argument given that two of the Justice League members are actually speedsters. They would notice that Quicksilver was faster than them even though they weren't as fast as him.

So again, how is Quicksilver supposed to win this?

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@jashugan said:

@percybender:

it's just too much for an average brain.

too much for quicksilver

He don't have to know about JL characters powers, they are statues, and unlike Apocalypse they'll remain in that condition, even if Peter breaks a hand.

Now this is a stupid argument given that two of the Justice League members are actually speedsters. They would notice that Quicksilver was faster than them even though they weren't as fast as him.

So again, how is Quicksilver supposed to win this?

Isn't too much for anyone.

Speedsters? Flash and Superman are STATUES for Quicksilver, as much as the hypersonic explosion in the mansion, they won't notice a thing.

And I already said how Quicksilver wins, you on the other hand don't have a single way to prove that statues can fight back, your best argument here was saying that Peter would knock himself out with a broken hand.

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@percybender:

Isn't too much for anyone.

prove it for quicksilver

Speedsters?

yes

saying that Peter would knock himself out with a broken hand.

strawman

I already said how Quicksilver wins

By disarming Diana. A character far stronger than him. Pray tell how Quicksilver will get Diana's sword.

Flash and Superman are STATUES for Quicksilver,

They are much faster than anyone quicksilver has ever fought. The last time Quicksilver fought anyone that could actually see him, his leg broke.

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@chimeroid: that's assuming she's going to have it drawn in the first place. Until she knows what she's dealing with that's a flip of the coin. Also she would have to have ore knowledge nto know to grip it that tightly in the first place. Also that's not his only option. Using his speed he can have Clark miss with heat vision taking out his own team as Quicksilver will just not be there. Yes this is the type of arguments auto Speed wins gather really annoying it is.

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Taking Diana’s sword is a viable option.

However, QS also needs the strength feats to do damage to them.

A steak knife can cut my skin, but wielded against me by a 2yr old might not equal out to a lethal blow.

Diana’s sword probably cuts Superman, but does QS has the strength needed to slice through Clark?

And if someone is gonna say, “the speed behind his insane running will be enough momentum to do the deed,” then why didn’t he use that same speed to knock Apoc clear across town initially and BFR him (or KO/kill) him from the jump?

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@jashugan said:

@miekskywalker: Thanos had almost no feats without the IG when he beat Hulk.

I don't have a clue what the rest of your post means.

And his feat is beating an already established character hence a relative power level is set for him. Or Thanos beating him is an anti feat for both him and hulk?

Zod had no previous feats but could give superman an established character with feats a fight, does that make superman weak or Zod strong? You DCEU fanboys and your anti-feats lol.

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@ecoblitz: I don't think you read the posts leading up to the post you replied to

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Superman solos.

Citation needed.

Flash could solo

Citation needed.

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@jashugan said:

@ecoblitz: I don't think you read the posts leading up to the post you replied to

his feat is beating an already established character hence a relative power level is set for him. Or Thanos beating him is an anti feat for both him and hulk?

Zod had no previous feats but could give superman an established character with feats a fight, does that make superman weak or Zod strong?

Answer the question, I want to see your hypocrisy.

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@chimeroid: @jashugan: @dre_savage:

I think he didn’t knock apocalypse across town because he caught him, and hit him again each time.

I don’t really recall where apocalypse landed after the last punch tho?

I do however believe QS takes this, if only because of his reality warping like speed, His radio still plays and he interacts with things in ways you wouldn’t expect him to.

In character he uses his environment, and I think his speed will give him multiple attack attempts before being reacted to(if that’s even possible).

If he breaks his hand like some people are suggesting, what are his realistic options for his second attack? Do we really think he just punches again after seeing the way he fights in the gifs all ready posted? Probably not.

He could try to move them into a situation they strike each other. He’s done this with guards in DOFP.

But let’s say he try’s but can’t move them, then what does he do.

Probably goes for the sword or trident. If he gets ahold of either, game over.

But let’s say he can’t break the grip of Aquaman or Diana.

Next he could try to poke them in the eyes with something, I mean he’s panicking now right? These dam statues are tougher than star force Thor. Do we think Diana or Aquaman can tank a finger poke to the eye from QS in a similar manner as he poked that guards cheek? I’m guessing an eye poke would force Diana to drop her sword.......and as I believe we’ve already established QS with WW sword would absolutely wreck Statueman.

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#195  Edited By jashugan

@ecoblitz:

his feat is beating an already established character hence a relative power level is set for him. Or Thanos beating him is an anti feat for both him and hulk?

Thanos is superior to Hulk

Zod had no previous feats but could give superman an established character with feats a fight, does that make superman weak or Zod strong?

Zod is inferior to Superman.

I want to see your hypocrisy.

Your saltiness following me to multiple threads aside, you didn't even know why I made those posts. Guy claimed that Superman doesn't have "striking feat" like the leviathan, I said superman doesn't need it because he can do more impressive stuff, guy says "muh feats", I say Thanos had no feats when he beat Hulk. Read the posts before you reply.

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@jashugan said:

I want to see your hypocrisy.

Your saltiness following me to multiple threads aside,

Lol, no, don't kid yourself, you simple happen to be in threads I go in. I'm not even debating, I just wanted to see if you'd be hypocritical like you DCEU fans usually are.

The rest isn't worth replying.

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#197  Edited By jashugan

@ecoblitz:

Lol, no, don't kid yourself, you simple happen to be in threads I go in. I'm not even debating, I just wanted to see if you'd be hypocritical like you DCEU fans usually are.

> calls me a kid

>literally follows me to other threads to reply to my day old post ignoring the context behind it

> now he says he made the post to see a hypocricy

> salty that there is no hypocricy

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@jashugan said:

@ecoblitz:

Lol, no, don't kid yourself, you simple happen to be in threads I go in. I'm not even debating, I just wanted to see if you'd be hypocritical like you DCEU fans usually are.

> calls me a kid

>literally follows me to other threads to reply to my day old post ignoring the context behind it

> now he says he made the post to see a hypocricy

> salty that there is no hypocricy

I said don't kid yourself...…………………………… are your braincells dying or you're just usually like this? This is not aa jibe but a genuine question.

you simple happen to be in threads I go in.

Yes. It's even in the original post

"I want to see your hypocrisy"

No, i'm quite happy the DCEU anti feat policy didn't kick in.

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@ecoblitz:

This is not aa jibe

are your braincells dying

You should've asked yourself that question

DCEU anti feat policy didn't kick in.

Keep being butthurt

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All of you guys saying he won’t know to use a sword etc etc. The guys so fast he has all the time he wants to try everything out

He will poke some people with the trident and slash some of them with a sword

He can do whatever he wants